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    More and more it looks like Woody could be a problem

    A good executive hires the right people to do the job and then has the common sense to let them do their jobs. If they don't perform he can always show them the door but when the owner, who knows business but not football, gets too involved it could spell a lot of problems.

    It's obvious now that getting Tebow was Woody's idea and now he is saying that Tebow will be with the team for another 3 years ? The Jets have a lot of needs but signing Tebow is NOT going to address any of those needs even at QB. I can only imagine what Rex and Tanny are going through trying to contain the media and now an owner who wants to get too involved. What Woody has to understand is that the way to sell tickets is by putting a good team on the field not gimmicks in PR.

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    Tebow is already signed for this year and the next two.

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    Tebow is probably our best offensive weapon and he sits on the bench. I like it cause I want to end up 2-14 this year and putting sanchez out there every week only helps that cause.

    Once this coaching staff smartens up and starts tebow, then we are in trouble as we will start to win games.

    Keep tebow on the bench!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmeyer52 View Post
    A good executive hires the right people to do the job and then has the common sense to let them do their jobs. If they don't perform he can always show them the door but when the owner, who knows business but not football, gets too involved it could spell a lot of problems.

    It's obvious now that getting Tebow was Woody's idea and now he is saying that Tebow will be with the team for another 3 years ? The Jets have a lot of needs but signing Tebow is NOT going to address any of those needs even at QB. I can only imagine what Rex and Tanny are going through trying to contain the media and now an owner who wants to get too involved. What Woody has to understand is that the way to sell tickets is by putting a good team on the field not gimmicks in PR.
    Pretty obvious..... the Favre trade was our 1st indication. Woody is Leon Hess in the making.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD94dVu8lqQ

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    1. Woodys own father did not turn J&J over to him.

    2. In his whole life he has never run a company before, let alone an NFL franchsie. He also did not grow up in football, aspire to run an NFL team, or play or coach the game. All he has done in his life is be born into money.

    3. He has hired 1 ONE football person during his entire tenure with the team, Terry Bradway. After he didnt work out as GM, he didnt even fire him, he demoted him, and installed a finance person as GM. When Joey Clinkscales left, he again didnt bring anyone in - simply promoted someone from within.

    4. We have not had a VP or Director of Football Operations since Parcells left, therefore there is no single employee in between Woody (no football knowledge) or Tannenbaum (no scouting experience) or Rex (no prior personnel experience).

    5. We have ZERO identity as an organization. We shoot for stopgap veterans over stockpiling draft picks. We do not value character when drafting for deciding on FAs. We treat draft choices as fantasy draft picks - ie John Connor. All of which has resulted in our locker room lacking leadership for the past 2 years.

    Good NFL franchises have a plan/process that starts from the top down. Our owner cares more about Mitt Romney and lower taxes for his fortune then he does about winning a SB. That pretty much says everything we need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath View Post
    Tebow is probably our best offensive weapon
    Based on what exactly? He didn't exactly tear **** up during preseason against 3's and 4's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    1. Woodys own father did not turn J&J over to him.

    2. In his whole life he has never run a company before, let alone an NFL franchsie. He also did not grow up in football, aspire to run an NFL team, or play or coach the game. All he has done in his life is be born into money.

    3. He has hired 1 ONE football person during his entire tenure with the team, Terry Bradway. After he didnt work out as GM, he didnt even fire him, he demoted him, and installed a finance person as GM. When Joey Clinkscales left, he again didnt bring anyone in - simply promoted someone from within.

    4. We have not had a VP or Director of Football Operations since Parcells left, therefore there is no single employee in between Woody (no football knowledge) or Tannenbaum (no scouting experience) or Rex (no prior personnel experience).

    5. We have ZERO identity as an organization. We shoot for stopgap veterans over stockpiling draft picks. We do not value character when drafting for deciding on FAs. We treat draft choices as fantasy draft picks - ie John Connor. All of which has resulted in our locker room lacking leadership for the past 2 years.

    Good NFL franchises have a plan/process that starts from the top down. Our owner cares more about Mitt Romney and lower taxes for his fortune then he does about winning a SB. That pretty much says everything we need to know.
    Agree with all you say except #1. His father couldn't turn the company over to Woody because his father was FIRED by his grandfather after working for the company 20+ years and being incompetent.
    Runs in the family relative to management.

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    Good Owners role

    Buy the team
    Hire a good GM
    Hire a good coach
    Pay the bills
    Shut up
    Pose with the Lombardi trophy and then immediately shut up again

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmetto defender View Post
    Agree with all you say except #1. His father couldn't turn the company over to Woody because his father was FIRED by his grandfather after working for the company 20+ years and being incompetent.
    Runs in the family relative to management.
    Oh, I didnt know the incompetance was generational.

    I just never knew how little business or more importantly management experience woody had before taking over the team.

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    Based on what exactly? He didn't exactly tear **** up during preseason against 3's and 4's...
    But he was also playing with 3s and 4s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    1. Woodys own father did not turn J&J over to him.

    2. In his whole life he has never run a company before, let alone an NFL franchsie. He also did not grow up in football, aspire to run an NFL team, or play or coach the game. All he has done in his life is be born into money.

    3. He has hired 1 ONE football person during his entire tenure with the team, Terry Bradway. After he didnt work out as GM, he didnt even fire him, he demoted him, and installed a finance person as GM. When Joey Clinkscales left, he again didnt bring anyone in - simply promoted someone from within.

    4. We have not had a VP or Director of Football Operations since Parcells left, therefore there is no single employee in between Woody (no football knowledge) or Tannenbaum (no scouting experience) or Rex (no prior personnel experience).

    5. We have ZERO identity as an organization. We shoot for stopgap veterans over stockpiling draft picks. We do not value character when drafting for deciding on FAs. We treat draft choices as fantasy draft picks - ie John Connor. All of which has resulted in our locker room lacking leadership for the past 2 years.

    Good NFL franchises have a plan/process that starts from the top down. Our owner cares more about Mitt Romney and lower taxes for his fortune then he does about winning a SB. That pretty much says everything we need to know.
    Good Job!

    Let Woody know!!!

    @woodyjohnson4

    Or how much does a full page ad in the Sunday NYT cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath View Post
    But he was also playing with 3s and 4s.
    You mean like the receivers he'd actually be playing with now?

    And besides Tebow miraculously inspires and lifts everyone else around him on his mighty shoulders and makes them better players. So in reality he was actually playing with 1's and 2's in preseason
    Last edited by Manchez; 10-11-2012 at 09:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Good Job!

    Let Woody know!!!

    @woodyjohnson4

    Or how much does a full page ad in the Sunday NYT cost?
    I would love to make a donation to that.....its the best way for us to reach him.

    I dont care if he owns the team, we cant tell someone what to do with their money, but if we threaten to stop buying merchandise until he hires a Football Operations person, then that will get his attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    I would love to make a donation to that.....its the best way for us to reach him.

    I dont care if he owns the team, we cant tell someone what to do with their money, but if we threaten to stop buying merchandise until he hires a Football Operations person, then that will get his attention.
    Exactly!

    And the media would pick up on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath View Post
    But he was also playing with 3s and 4s.
    Which is what Sanchez goes to war with against other teams 1's every week....

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Exactly!

    And the media would pick up on it
    Apparently it costs in the neighborhood of $50K for a full page ad.

    Thats not what I had been hoping for when i googled it

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    Easier said than done. Look at all us opinionated jerks on this forum. If we were all owners do you not think we might not feel like poking our noses in where they don't belong?

    If your front office does a good job you have no owner problems. If they suck the owners start 'musing'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    I would love to make a donation to that.....its the best way for us to reach him.

    I dont care if he owns the team, we cant tell someone what to do with their money, but if we threaten to stop buying merchandise until he hires a Football Operations person, then that will get his attention.
    Someone get it started..... Ill put in up to say $100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmeyer52 View Post
    A good executive hires the right people to do the job and then has the common sense to let them do their jobs. If they don't perform he can always show them the door but when the owner, who knows business but not football, gets too involved it could spell a lot of problems.

    It's obvious now that getting Tebow was Woody's idea and now he is saying that Tebow will be with the team for another 3 years ? The Jets have a lot of needs but signing Tebow is NOT going to address any of those needs even at QB. I can only imagine what Rex and Tanny are going through trying to contain the media and now an owner who wants to get too involved. What Woody has to understand is that the way to sell tickets is by putting a good team on the field not gimmicks in PR.
    He's turning into Jerry Jones except Jones has his son and Woody has his wife to talk football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southparkcpa View Post
    Someone get it started..... Ill put in up to say $100.
    I'm in for $100

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