Yes, D looks good with an O that helps.
Yes, D looks good with an O that helps.
Whos not a good qb when that happens?My point is that when we control the ball on the ground and receive strong field position, Mark Sanchez is a good quarterback.
As usual Fail I doesn't know what he's talking about
The reason Sanchez looked better today is because he had some of his weapons back healthy and on the field
It was an impressive day, mostly for the OL and the running game, the Jets played one of their most physical games of the season, and it seemed to me that Sparano and the offense could have turned the corner on the season.
But the biggest story of the day was the return of key offensive weapons and an offense that executed very well, especially in the running game.
Sanchez didn't have to do as much because the running game was so effective.
This offense can put up 400 yds a week with a balanced pass/run ratio, it can be very good.
What was also very clear, Sanchez was able to spread the ball around to all of his weapons, wasn't forced to throw players demanding the ball, he was able to execute based on the design of the play and what he saw on the field, he also played with very good anticipation, the S Hill TD was one of them. Another play that should have been made was on a Kerley route that wound up going incomplete, but Kerley looked for the ball late, it was a very good throw, made completely on anticipation of the design of the play and the receiver running his route.
The knock on Sanchez by our internet football guru's on this board is that Sanchez only throws the ball when the receiver is open, that wasn't the case today, and that is huge for Sanchez' development and progress.
Sometimes I think the Sanchez haters want the Jets to lose with Mark throwing two picks and a fumble.
With the NFL parity this year so far, we have as good a chance as anybody to make the playoffs, and a QB change is not the answer. Lets support Mark and hope as every game passes he will continue to develop with his new receivers (thank god no Holmes).
Once in, anything can happen.
I guess so long as we ALWAYS have a dominant defense (never able to have a bad game) and ALWAYS have a potent running game (never able to have a bad game), we will ALWAYS win?
That is completely absurd.
Mark Sanchez gets to be the golden boy for ever and ever. He'll NEVER have to step up because he's too wicked awesome for that.
With all due respect to your tilted logic, I want a QB that can win a game for us once in a while. I want a QB that can step up to the occasion once in a while. I want a QB that can jump start the defense and running game by playing good football once in a while.
We will never have that with Mark Sanchez. He's got to go.
I am not saying that the Jets have cured all their issue but maybe the people that Rex boast about are not actually leaders.
Dare I say it, could the team be developing leadership organically? Only time will tell.
Ive supported sanchez a lot, and he hasnt been as bad as people think considering our injuries on offense along with who were were playing in miami, SF and Houston.
That being said, this thread is absurd.
We are gonna a need a lot more then 82 yards and no mistakes vs one of the worst defensive teams in the league if we want to be successful in 2012 or 2013.
you gotta understand something. you need a legit starting qb to win in today's nfl. sanchez is not that guy. i was a huge sanchez supporter until a few weeks ago. i gave him every benefit of the doubt. but when i see ryan tannehill with less weapons doing even more in miami as a rookie, i'm starting to lose faith.
you always rail on rex saying how bad he is. if you made the point that its not sanchez's fault but rex's fault for thinking he can win with a running game/game manager qb and a stifling defense, then perhaps you have a point. I've always supported rex and still do, but i can see that point of view. if that's the arguement you're making, then yes, sanchez is the least of our concerns because he's playing the role of game manager and winning the games he's supposed to win and losing the games he's supposed to lose. he's not making other players better. its rex's fault for not surrounding him with the perfect team he needs to win.
but if you're arguement is sanchez is the least of our problems because he's a great qb, he has no weapons, no qb can survive in this situation,etc..., well then i don't want to hear that. look at tannehill, look at rg3, look at luck, look at russel wilson who just beat NE today. THESE ARE ROOKIES!!! our fourth year qb should have some games where he can put a team on his back and carry them. he still can't! if you're arguement is a top 5 qb was never meant to be more than he his, that's a dumb arguement. of course tanny and rex imagined this kid being the next great qb. so basically i just don't understand your arguement...
It started really in the 2nd half of last week's game against the Texans.
We have seen a Jets team that has toughened up, they are starting to execute, they are starting to get a little swagger back.
Losing a player of Revis' magnitude is tough for any team to take without having to recover from some kind of blow, it's an emotional loss for the team. Then having to do it again with Holmes in the SF game can really take its toll on any team.
Nevermind that, the team has been decimated by injuries, missing several key players on offense in the last several weeks. Losing to the likes of the 49ers and Texans with a depleted roster is no easy chore, and the Jets at least made a game of it last week against the Texans.
This week, they beat a team that just beat a good Packer team at home.
We saw a Jets team that seemed to be finding itself a little on offense
Sanchez is pushing through one of the toughest times of his career with no help and seemingly everybody that wants to end his career prematurely for him, and he was able to benefita little today from getting a couple of his key weapons back on offense
The OL seems to be settling down in Sparano's new system and schemes, the running game broke out
The defense played one of its best games ALL year, and did it against an impressive young rookie QB who had been lighting up the league until today.
The younger players are starting to step up, S Hill, Coples, Wilkerson, Wilson, Lankster, Davis, McKnight, etc.
Cro is taking on a leadership role on the team
Tebow's role even became a little more visible today, he can be exactly the kind of weapon the team has been trying to tell anybody that would listen and wasn't trying to force a QB controversey down our throats.
It's one game, next week is a HUGE game
But today, we didn't see a team that was giving up on Ryan, and if anybody watched the Ryan's post game locker room speech covered by SNY, it's pretty evident, Ryan has this team and this lockerroom playing hard for him, and the LT bull**** and all the media bull**** being spun about how the team may be "imploding," which has been the mantra of the OP in this thread, is PURE BULL****!!!!!
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Now, he might not do it as often as you like or in the fashion you like and that fair and legit criticism.
But to ignore the fact that he has won more playoff games then Ryan, Schaub, and Stafford combined is not giving him his due. Also, refusing to acknowledge that he has beat River, Manning, and Brady in three of they games is fair to ability. Two of those wins were comeback wins too.
I know that I am not going to win any Sanchez haters over but I know a lot of haters on this board are smart fans and to just dismiss these things as if they never happened is surprising.
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