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Thread: Jets concerned about Pats' no huddle, Pace calls it 'borderline illegal'

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    Texas education systems, 10 Penny

    whatcha gonna do

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    Texas education systems, 10 Penny

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    Can't blame him. Must be hard to see the keyboard being cross-eyed and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetdawgg View Post
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo....html#boxscore

    Jets had 4 sacks on Sunday. Coples had 2. Mo Wilk 1. I get the feeling that NE is looking at that
    Big difference though.

    The Pats have a running game and the Colts don't. The Pats can run the ball down the Jets' throat if need be and use the play action to set up the pass which will keep the rush off Brady. Luck didn't have that.

    Luck relies on Reggie Wayne too much and Cromartie took him away. That forced him to hold onto the ball too long on many plays. Brady has many different receivers he can throw to and although he throws to Welker a lot, he isn't opposed to throwing elsewhere a lot.

    Also, you have to look at when the Jets got their sacks. Wilkerson got his sack late in the fourth up 28-9 with Luck forced to throw on every down. Couples second sack was in the third with the Colts down 21-6. The Colts were passing a lot allowing the Jets to pin their ears back and not to worry about the run.

    The Pats only let the Seahawks sack Brady once on 58 pass attempts and they have a monster pass rush.

    The Jets could get to Brady and a lot, but before last weekend the Jets only had 5 sacks on the year. They haven't been getting to the QB. I don't know if success against a bad team with no running game who were down early and forced to throw a lot is proof the Jets' pass rush has turned a corner.

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    "Hopefully, they'll start huddling back up."
    Yeah I'm going to lay the 10.5 in this one.

    O/U on how many Bart Scott "ankle sprains" he has this Sunday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob0729 View Post
    Big difference though.

    The Pats have a running game and the Colts don't. The Pats can run the ball down the Jets' throat if need be and use the play action to set up the pass which will keep the rush off Brady. Luck didn't have that.

    Luck relies on Reggie Wayne too much and Cromartie took him away. That forced him to hold onto the ball too long on many plays. Brady has many different receivers he can throw to and although he throws to Welker a lot, he isn't opposed to throwing elsewhere a lot.

    Also, you have to look at when the Jets got their sacks. Wilkerson got his sack late in the fourth up 28-9 with Luck forced to throw on every down. Couples second sack was in the third with the Colts down 21-6. The Colts were passing a lot allowing the Jets to pin their ears back and not to worry about the run.

    The Pats only let the Seahawks sack Brady once on 58 pass attempts and they have a monster pass rush.

    The Jets could get to Brady and a lot, but before last weekend the Jets only had 5 sacks on the year. They haven't been getting to the QB. I don't know if success against a bad team with no running game who were down early and forced to throw a lot is proof the Jets' pass rush has turned a corner.
    Big difference, this is the most that Coples played in one game this season. Pasts have also given up 13 sacks this season

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    "Every battle is won before it is fought....." - Calvin Pace

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    hopefully the hurry up will be counteracted by the extremely long injury time out (after Coples, Maybin, Davis and Wilk meet at the QB) while Brady is carried off the field on the cart
    This kid is like school on a Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snell41 View Post
    This kid is like school on a Sunday.
    Sunday School?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetdawgg View Post
    Big difference, this is the most that Coples played in one game this season. Pasts have also given up 13 sacks this season
    A few things:

    • The Jets have 9 sacks for the season which is 26th in the league. They got four against a bad Colts' team with no running game and two came in garbage time.
    • Yes, the Pats have given up 13 sacks, but 4 came against Arizona who are third in the league in sacks with 19 sacks and four came against Denver who are 4th in sacks with 18 sacks. So the Pats had 5 sacks allowed in the other four games they played.
    • Coples may not see a lot of time in this game because the Pats will run an uptempo no huddle and Ryan may be leery of keeping him on the field for long stretches with his conditioning concerns. Also, until he proves last week wasn't a fluke game, he isn't really a pass rushing threat that the Pats need to be overly concerned about.

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    Pats are smart, football Players these days are not comfy unless the coach has told them a play/formation and a vet has made sure everyone is in the right place. Hell out defense is looking at each other and motioning even with a normal offense. This offense exposes the over coaching of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32green View Post
    Let me get this straight...they are trying to simulate the up-tempo offense, yet they still involve a coach's play card instead of giving the QB a few plays in advance.

    Sweet.

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    Great, another super smart coaching move. Just like practicing for the run and letting everyone know its a run. AWESOME!!!

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    Pace is clearly saying it's borderline illegal because they are running plays before even their own offensive players are completely set.

    And that isn't borderline illegal, it's just illegal.

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    The Jets aren't dumb (eh forget I said that)....Demario Davis, Dowtin, Allen, etc are gonna play a lot this game regardless of being wet behind the ears. Stamina and speed are gonna be more important than experience.

    With that said, I'm somewhat concerned for Coples...definitely not the type of pace he has endurance for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Pace, Scott and Thomas will be on the sidelines sucking wind and puking with McNight.

    Should be pretty funny to watch.
    This must be the "hard but true", and "unpopular but dead on" perspective u bring to the board.

    You asked for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sdJETSetter View Post
    This must be the "hard but true", and "unpopular but dead on" perspective u bring to the board.

    Thanks, I appreciate the compliment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Hey sg3, where the hell were you after the 49ers and Texans games?

    You predicted a Jets blowout in both those games.

    How'd that turn out for you?
    Who are you to point fingers jackas$

    Seems as if the Pasts are having some troubles in the defensive side of the ball, ya' think?


    Eat a BOD's

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    Quote Originally Posted by IM3 View Post
    Yeah I'm going to lay the 10.5 in this one.

    O/U on how many Bart Scott "ankle sprains" he has this Sunday?
    Wait, are you saying that the O/U of ankle sprais is 10.5? Hmmm.....that's a damn good line. May have to take the over on this one.

    I'm with you Ikey, this game smells like a disaster. Doesn't doom the Jets, for the season, but it ain't gonna be pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob0729 View Post
    Big difference though.

    The Pats have a running game and the Colts don't. The Pats can run the ball down the Jets' throat if need be and use the play action to set up the pass which will keep the rush off Brady. Luck didn't have that.

    Luck relies on Reggie Wayne too much and Cromartie took him away. That forced him to hold onto the ball too long on many plays. Brady has many different receivers he can throw to and although he throws to Welker a lot, he isn't opposed to throwing elsewhere a lot.

    Also, you have to look at when the Jets got their sacks. Wilkerson got his sack late in the fourth up 28-9 with Luck forced to throw on every down. Couples second sack was in the third with the Colts down 21-6. The Colts were passing a lot allowing the Jets to pin their ears back and not to worry about the run.

    The Pats only let the Seahawks sack Brady once on 58 pass attempts and they have a monster pass rush.

    The Jets could get to Brady and a lot, but before last weekend the Jets only had 5 sacks on the year. They haven't been getting to the QB. I don't know if success against a bad team with no running game who were down early and forced to throw a lot is proof the Jets' pass rush has turned a corner.
    Forget about pass rush. The Jets will rush 2 guys about 70% of the time, sit in a zone and try to take away the underneath patterns or at least the YAC. They'll try and replicate the formula from the playoff win. Only problem is is that it was somewhat of a surprise then, and the chips fell the Jets way.

    Expect Ridley to have about 300 yards rushing. The only prayer the Jets have is to hold the Pats consistently to FGs and then take advantage of the opportunistic long ball when they arise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32green View Post
    You really are...insane.





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    Clearly, he learned nothing from his little vacation. You hold the hammer. Do him the same honor as GG and yield it with permanence this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    hopefully the hurry up will be counteracted by the extremely long injury time out (after Coples, Maybin, Davis and Wilk meet at the QB) while Brady is carried off the field on the cart
    I'm likin it

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