Assigned to game today
Expect plenty of flags and frustration
Didn't his crew do last week's MNF? That officiating was pretty shoddy.
Jets want officials to give defense more time to substitute against Pats
Posted by Mike Florio on October 20, 2012, 6:57 PM EDT
APJets linebacker Calvin Pace recently called the Patriots’ no-huddle offense “borderline illegal.” The Jets apparently believe that it’s the officials, not the Pats, who are failing to follow the rules.
Defensive coordinator Mike Pettine has explained to Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News that the Jets will be emphasizing to officials the provisions that allow defenses to react and adapt to changes made in the offensive lineup.
“It’s going to be a major point of contention before [our] game with the officials to make sure that they know the rule is when they substitute we’re permitted to substitute,” Pettine told Mehta.
“If the officials permit [the Patriots] to do that, then the game is going to become chaos,” Pettine said. “That’s the problem. Because we’re going to be running guys on. We need to make sure that that is enforced for this game, because we found examples on tape where it has not been. Then it’s impossible. Now you can’t defend it.”
The rulebook makes it clear that the officials have the responsibility to ensure that the defense has a fair chance to adjust to lineup changes. Per Mehta, Rule 5, Section 2, Article 10 states that “if a substitution is made by the offense, the offense shall not be permitted to snap the ball until the defense has been permitted to respond with its substitutions. . . . The offense is prohibited from rushing quickly to the line of scrimmage and snapping the ball in an obvious attempt to cause a defensive foul (i.e. — too many men on the field). . . . The umpire will stand over the ball until the Referee deems that the defense has had a reasonable time to complete its substitutions.”
“When they change, that should trigger the ability for us to change,” Pettine said. “I’m all for the no-huddle and one grouping. Whoever you put out there, you better be prepared to go through a whole series and be out there for a while. And that’s fine. When they change, we need to be given the right to change . . . and we’re going to make sure that right is given to us.”
And that’s the difference between hitting the accelerator with versatile players on the field and shuttling in other players quickly in the hopes of catching the defense with its pants down.
Should the Jets be taking their concerns public? In a roundabout way, they are complaining about the officiating — not from their own games, but from the games involving other teams. The comments are, in essence, a more subtle version of Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride’s complaint that 49ers defensive end Justin Smith “gets away with murder.”
And now the question becomes whether Pats coach Bill Belichick will rebuke the Jets, Harbaugh-style, for both criticizing and influencing officiating. Because, at its core, that’s precisely what the Jets are doing.
If it works on Sunday, it will have been brilliant.
Here is the article Florio references
Done with Patriots games: Rex Ryan and NY Jets can't wait to sink Bill Belichick's subs, no-huddle 'O'
The switch was subtle and deft like a magician’s sleight of hand.
On 2nd and 10 from their own 20-yard line two weeks ago, the Patriots, at home against Denver, went into warp speed with a no-huddle attack that has induced migraines for defensive coordinators through the first six weeks of the season.
Running back Stevan Ridley used a pair of blocks by tight ends Rob Gronkowski and Daniel Fells on a 19-yard first-down pickup down the left sideline in the third quarter of 31-21 win over the Broncos in Week 5. Then, Bill Belichick fooled the officials.
After Ridley was pushed out of bounds and the Patriots rushed to the line of scrimmage to continue their 16-play, 80-yard touchdown march, they made a pair of substitutions. Ridley and Fells were swapped out for running back Brandon Bolden and wide receiver Deion Branch. A 1-running back, 2-tight end, 2-wide receiver personnel grouping suddenly morphed into a 1-running back, 3-wide receiver, 1-tight end grouping.
The Broncos scrambled to adjust, but were penalized for too many men on the field after sacking Tom Brady for an 8-yard loss on the next play.
Denver had 14 men on the field, including three frantically trying to run off before the snap.
“Denver never got a chance to substitute,” defensive coordinator Mike Pettine told the Daily News in the run-up to the Jets’ showdown against the Patriots on Sunday. “It’s going to be a major point of contention before (our) game with the officials to make sure that they know the rule is when they substitute we’re permitted to substitute.”
“If the officials permit (the Patriots) to do that, then the game is going to become chaos,” Pettine added. “That’s the problem. Because we’re going to be running guys on. We need to make sure that that is enforced for this game, because we found examples on tape where it has not been. Then it’s impossible. Now you can’t defend it.”
On that sequence two weeks ago, the Patriots had a 1st and 5 thanks to the 5-yard penalty that wiped out the sack that would have made it 2nd and 18.
The Patriots’ strategic substitutions within the framework of their no-huddle scheme are legal. They’re well within their right to make changes, but defenses need to be given the right to counter. It’s a given that up-tempo offenses stress a defense’s ability to get set before the snap, but the officials seemingly haven’t caught on to Belichick and offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels’ substitution ploy yet.
Rule 5, Section 2, Article 10 of the NFL rulebook states, in part, “if a substitution is made by the offense, the offense shall not be permitted to snap the ball until the defense has been permitted to respond with its substitutions. . . . The offense is prohibited from rushing quickly to the line of scrimmage and snapping the ball in an obvious attempt to cause a defensive foul (i.e. — too many men on the field). . . . The umpire will stand over the ball until the Referee deems that the defense has had a reasonable time to complete its substitutions.”
Although linebacker David Harris admits that the Patriots run “a hell of a scheme,” the Jets have found several examples of officials not enforcing the substitution rule on their no-huddle drives.
“When they change, that should trigger the ability for us to change,”
Pettine said. “I’m all for the no-huddle and one grouping. Whoever you put out there, you better be prepared to go through a whole series and be out there for a while. And that’s fine. When they change, we need to be given the right to change . . . and we’re going to make sure that right is given to us.”
The Patriots’ up-tempo offense that has run a league-high 473 plays is challenging enough to defend without officials’ oversights. “These guys do it all,” said Jets outside linebacker Bryan Thomas.
The Jets will have to slow down Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez and Wes Welker to have any chance to win.
Although Jets safety LaRon Landry, who will get his fair share of opportunities to slow down Gronkowski, maintains that, “You can’t go into a game and say, ‘Oh sh--, he’s too big or he’s going to beat me on this play or that play,” it’ll be a daunting task against arguably the best tight end in the league.”
Welker’s ability to change direction quickly and Hernandez’s hybrid TE/WR skill set that allows him to beat defenders on vertical routes make it even more complicated to slow down New England’s multi-dimensional attack.
Landry hopes for better luck than the only time he faced Brady in his career while with the Redskins. “They kicked our ass, man,” Landry said. “Brady came to the line and made it look quite easy.”
“We certainly don’t have all the answers to it,” Rex Ryan said. “If (Brady) knows the coverage you’re in, good luck with that one. You have to give him different looks, different pressures, different coverages. You have to be multiple or this guy will kill you.”
Brady is dangerous enough without getting help from officials who don’t enforce the substitution rules.
“That’s part of the officials being able to manage the game,” Pettine said. “It’s going to be critical for us to make sure that we have the ability to do that.”
Last edited by C Mart; 10-21-2012 at 09:20 AM.
Curious what kind of protocol is followed to calculate "reasonable time".. The umpire will stand over the ball until the Referee deems that the defense has had a reasonable time to complete its substitutions.
... good stuff! ...
... love that they're throwing it out there ahead of the game ... F those cheating b*$tards! ...
... if the D sees it i hope one of our front 7 is charged with grabbing the ball and handing it to the umpire to slow the pats down from being able to cheat ... force the umps hand into doing the right thing! ...
Waaahhhh... the Patriots are too fast...tell them to slow down...waaahhhh.
Other teams (but apparently not the Jets) routinely do hurry up snaps attempting to catch the other team with too many men still on the field.
At least the Jets already have a built in conspiracy excuse if they lose.
Last edited by PatriotReign; 10-21-2012 at 10:08 AM.
If you feel unsure about your chances of winning, be sure to lay the foundation for your excuses ahead of time.
What am I missing in all of this? I have watched every Pats games and from what I have seen, their hurry up is so efficient because they go no huddle, don't substitute players, and snap the ball before the defense is set. (for you conspiracy theorists that means the defense has no chance to sub and is not entitled to a "reasonable time" to get its act together.)
Can you find some plays where the Pats have made subs and the defense hasn't been quick enough in reacting and getting proper personnel on the field? Sure, but its not like this is some pattern or practice the Pats rely on for their offense. I understand going public with this to put the spotlight on the refs' handling of this "issue", but I see this being a complete non-issue today.
Hard to draw any conclusions because they include the replacement refs from the start of the season.
Jeff "Gillette" is one of the biggest chowd homers around. Expect a long day.
I for one welcome our new AFC east overlords.