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    It's the offense... We need to join the 21st Century

    Rex has to go. Sanchez has to go.

    Defensive HCs who want to play ball control conservative football are done. Horrible QBs have always been done.

    In the last 19 years the Jets have had a Top 10 Offense exactly ONE time. Think about that. Let it sink in. Once.

    That one time? We tied a franchise record for most wins in a season and had our second best season ever after since Super Bowl III.

    In the last 20 years the following QBs have won Super Bowls:

    Troy Aikman
    Steve Young
    Brett Favre
    John Elway
    Kurt Warner
    Trent Dilfer
    Tom Brady
    Brad Johnson
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Peyton Manning
    Eli Manning
    Drew Brees
    Aaron Rodgers

    So what we know: 90% of SB teams in the modern era had HOF QBs. 5% had solid QBs. 5% had journeyman scrubs.

    It has never been easier to draft a rookie QB. Rookie QBs are cheap with the new CBA and are better prepared than ever to compete right away. We will NEVER win a SB until we find "our guy." Sanchez is not "our guy." Neither is Tebow. We have to do anything and everything we can to draft a QB who can be "our guy." Literally everything else is secondary.

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    Rex and the FO do not care about the offense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Rex has to go. Sanchez has to go.

    Defensive HCs who want to play ball control conservative football are done. Horrible QBs have always been done.

    In the last 19 years the Jets have had a Top 10 Offense exactly ONE time. Think about that. Let it sink in. Once.

    That one time? We tied a franchise record for most wins in a season and had our second best season ever after since Super Bowl III.

    In the last 20 years the following QBs have won Super Bowls:

    Troy Aikman
    Steve Young
    Brett Favre
    John Elway
    Kurt Warner
    Trent Dilfer
    Tom Brady
    Brad Johnson
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Peyton Manning
    Eli Manning
    Drew Brees
    Aaron Rodgers

    So what we know: 90% of SB teams in the modern era had HOF QBs. 5% had solid QBs. 5% had journeyman scrubs.

    It has never been easier to draft a rookie QB. Rookie QBs are cheap with the new CBA and are better prepared than ever to compete right away. We will NEVER win a SB until we find "our guy." Sanchez is not "our guy." Neither is Tebow. We have to do anything and everything we can to draft a QB who can be "our guy." Literally everything else is secondary.
    The only way I would agree with firing Rex is if he refuses to bench Sanchez. That would show he doesn't want to win.

    Sanchez does need to go. That's been obvious for a long time now.

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    Ummm, we could be about to beat NE, at Foxboro, and you guys want the QB / HC thrown out?

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    If we lose this game, the main reason will be Sparano's play calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Rex has to go. Sanchez has to go.

    Defensive HCs who want to play ball control conservative football are done. Horrible QBs have always been done.

    In the last 19 years the Jets have had a Top 10 Offense exactly ONE time. Think about that. Let it sink in. Once.

    That one time? We tied a franchise record for most wins in a season and had our second best season ever after since Super Bowl III.

    In the last 20 years the following QBs have won Super Bowls:

    Troy Aikman
    Steve Young
    Brett Favre
    John Elway
    Kurt Warner
    Trent Dilfer
    Tom Brady
    Brad Johnson
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Peyton Manning
    Eli Manning
    Drew Brees
    Aaron Rodgers

    So what we know: 90% of SB teams in the modern era had HOF QBs. 5% had solid QBs. 5% had journeyman scrubs.

    It has never been easier to draft a rookie QB. Rookie QBs are cheap with the new CBA and are better prepared than ever to compete right away. We will NEVER win a SB until we find "our guy." Sanchez is not "our guy." Neither is Tebow. We have to do anything and everything we can to draft a QB who can be "our guy." Literally everything else is secondary.
    I wouldn't call them "cheap", they're just cheaper than they were before. That doesn't mean you should draft one just for the sake of doing it though. Also, your point about QB's being "better prepared than ever to compete right away", I think that's a point that should be looked at with each individually, rather than being made into a generalization. Certainly Luck, RG3, they look good, as does Tannehill (and Weeden to an extent), but that doesn't mean next year's QB class will be just as ready. It should be case-by-case, not a blanket statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    If we lose this game, the main reason will be Sparano's play calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    If we lose this game, the main reason will be Sparano's play calling.
    This. Defense didn't play perfect but i thought they played well enough to keep them in the game.

    Offense left wayyyyy too many opportunities on the field.
    Oh and Sanchez just isn't good.

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    Tannebaum needs to go and woody should sell the team for profit

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    Quote Originally Posted by copernicus View Post
    Rex and the FO do not care about the offense
    +1
    and that has to change!

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    Too many stupid mistakes and penalties.

    The QB played a pretty good game. He was very good in the 4th quarter.

    Stephen Hill dropped a very important 3rd down pass. That was the game changing play -- the play NE's sh!tty defense needed to bail them out.

    If he catches that ball, the Jets might have scored a TD, but at the very least there would not have been much time left for NE to go tie the game.

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    Almost everyone of those QB's had a top ten defense when they won. Only the last 2 Super Bowls didn't and the giants d in the playoffs was top tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtAshton View Post
    Almost everyone of those QB's had a top ten defense when they won. Only the last 2 Super Bowls didn't and the giants d in the playoffs was top tier.
    Most had a top 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtAshton View Post
    Almost everyone of those QB's had a top ten defense when they won. Only the last 2 Super Bowls didn't and the giants d in the playoffs was top tier.
    Who's saying ignore the defense? Of course you want a good defense as well.

    I'm just saying it's secondary and that Rex's philosophy regarding offense makes him a problem.

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    Bump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Who's saying ignore the defense? Of course you want a good defense as well.

    I'm just saying it's secondary and that Rex's philosophy regarding offense makes him a problem.
    I was thinking about what draft picks we have invested in the D over the years ... at a rough count I broke it down like this :

    DL - 2 1st, 2 3rd
    LB - 1st, 2nd, 3rd
    CB - 2 1st
    S - not a lot ...

    That's FIVE first rounders, and 4 2nd or 3rd round picks. I haven't even included picks that are no longer on the team. We've also acquired some highly paid talent through FA and trades (Cro, Pace, Scott, etc). And we have the supposed defensive genius in Rex Ryan.

    And for what?

    Last edited by JamesR; 10-28-2012 at 05:36 PM.

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    They tried to go into the new age last year. They found out their qb could not cut it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    They tried to go into the new age last year. They found out their qb could not cut it.
    Right. So dump his candyass and try again.

    The fact that Mark Sanchez sucks and is a huge bust and a failure for this regime is irrelevant. Moving forward it's still all about the QB. Giving him that extension was moronic.

    We need to draft a new QB we believe in and go for it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainejet View Post
    The only way I would agree with firing Rex is if he refuses to bench Sanchez. That would show he doesn't want to win.

    Sanchez does need to go. That's been obvious for a long time now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    They tried to go into the new age last year. They found out their qb could not cut it.
    Rex and his merry band of yes-men are more concerned with imposing their brand of outdated football on this team instead of playing to their personnel's strengths. I know it may pain you and others to admit it, but Sanchez is not without talent and actually excels in certain situations. But this coaching staff is enamored with forcing the issue in an attempt to utilize an offensive philosophy from a bygone era.

    Dump Cavanaugh. Tell Sparano to use a more uptempo pace to the offense and let Sanchez rollout and use play action. Otherwise, trade him and fire Rex as neither will be successful without doing the above.

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    How can we run a George Jetson offense with Barney Rubble at QB.

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