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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    But his big advantage is HAVING THE MOST PRESSURE FILLED JOB IN THE WORLD.
    Not really. He doesn't get points for just being in the position. What does that have to do with the price of tea...?

    IMO, he looked great tonight. He won the debate. But what does that mean I dunno. I'm already voting Romney. As Obama looked good I don't think Romney looked bad either. Not sure what the average UD Independent is thinking. And I really feel a majority of women will have a different view than a majority of men fwiw.

    I will say this again, what I liked about tonight is, if Obama does win, I personally feel a little more comfortable with him as a leader of the nation. I think he's grown into the position well, as much as I don't agree with some/a lot of his policies, especially economic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    ok.

    So you will ignore my analysis of the business man's economic policy ok.


    Who was the last "business man" to be a successful President?

    President Bush II was a business man. He has a MBA.
    I didn't ignore anything.
    I didn't vote for Bush. Romney isn't Bush. And I think Obama's policies will continue to fail.

    But this is why I don't follow politics. It's the lesser evil imo. I'll leave it at that. Do I have a ton of faith in either side, not really. But I know what my fundamental principles are. So I'm voting Romney.
    Last edited by HessStation; 10-23-2012 at 01:00 AM.

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    The Stale Prince of Bill Ayers vs the next President...no contest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard View Post
    I would stop reading so much gawker if I were you. It's... effeminate.
    Dude...wtf.

    Ever read anything on there? It's hysterical....oh wait, there might be fun or laughter involved....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21st Amendment View Post
    The 4 debates are over.

    Obama-2 wins
    Romney- 1 win*
    Biden- 1 win
    Ryan- 0 win


    *by the widest margin
    Americans choose debate winners by body language.

    First debate Obama looked like he was late for a nap and looking down while
    Romney was speaking. Romney wins.

    Second debate, the town hall setting let them walk around and not have to look at each other. Basically a draw.

    Third debate, Obama staring down Romney, almost leaning toward him. Romney, with a nervous smile and excessive blinking. Obama wins.

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    Monster win for O.

    Too bad we rejected Dr Paul and nominated a stammering empty suit instead..

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    not sure how anyone could watch that thumping and proclaim Romney won. Strategy or not he was acquiescing on just about every major point.

    His cries of being attacked by Obama were laughable considering the way he's conducted himself in prior debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy® View Post
    Third debate, Obama staring down Romney, almost leaning toward him. Romney, with a nervous smile and excessive blinking. Obama wins.
    at one point towards the end Romney rolled his eyes when Obama started recounting a story of meeting an average citizen. Didn't look very good.

    in the last few minutes it looked to me like Mitt's talking points were getting crossed and he was just spitting out memorized facts rather than talking to the American people.

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    Republicans are weak on FP these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetdawgg View Post
    Republicans are weak on FP these days
    Which would explain why Romney was agreeing with Obama most of the night . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pac2566 View Post
    not sure how anyone could watch that thumping and proclaim Romney won. Strategy or not he was acquiescing on just about every major point.
    So you see the (D) Candidate in almost 100% agreement on foriegn policy with an "extreme" Republican as a positive.....for the (D)?

    Thats VERY interesting.

    Either Romney isn't nearly the extremist neocon war monger he's been regularly portrayed as......or Obama is Bush II on the foreign policy front.

    Hard to see how thats a big win for Obama in any rational way. If I were a (D) I might be asking myself some hard questions of what Obama promised about all there terrorism/civil liberties/interventionism/millitarism stuff he was rocking in 2008, and why he's so in alignment with Romney now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
    But his big advantage is HAVING THE MOST PRESSURE FILLED JOB IN THE WORLD.
    Going on Letterman a dozen times has to be rough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jungle Shift Jet View Post
    The Stale Prince of Bill Ayers
    I think you missed your calling. You should be the guy who creates porn movie titles from mainstream movie titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    So you see the (D) Candidate in almost 100% agreement on foriegn policy with an "extreme" Republican as a positive.....for the (D)?

    Thats VERY interesting.

    Either Romney isn't nearly the extremist neocon war monger he's been regularly portrayed as......or Obama is Bush II on the foreign policy front.

    Hard to see how thats a big win for Obama in any rational way. If I were a (D) I might be asking myself some hard questions of what Obama promised about all there terrorism/civil liberties/interventionism/millitarism stuff he was rocking in 2008, and why he's so in alignment with Romney now.
    That was the Romney plan, obviously, and he executed. And I don't think the "1980 called, it wants its foreign policy back" line went over very well (not presidential, but it certainly did its job of signifying).

    IMO, people are confusing things a bit. Obama won that debate - but Romney didn't need to win it, since this won't be a foreign policy election. Romney just needed to get past the "if we elect this guy we'll be back at war" hurdle - and he did that job just fine. Which is why CNN's snap polls can both say, by a relatively large margin, that Obama won the debate (48%-40%) and, simultaneously, that slightly more of the undecided panel was convinced to vote for Romney by the debate than were convinced to vote for Obama (25%-24%).

    As David Gergen put it, Romney passed the commander in chief test. (More CNN polling: 63% think Obama can handle the job as commander in chief, 60% think Romney can)

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    Romney Wins CBS Focus Group In Ohio



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6URuvgL2CKA

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    As far as foreign policy goes, I mean really, who has any respect for either guy IMO. Where I really stand on this is my guess/hope would be a Romney ticket would appoint someone like a McCain as Secretary of State. No offense to Clinton, she's another who's gained some of my respect the past four years as a leader, but between the two it's not even close who id be more comfortable with.

    So big pictue, for me, Romney still wins.

    But yeah for someone who is going to base their vote on who won last nights debate alone, and only in terms of style, they'd probably pick Obama 4 out of 5.
    I just dot know who actually would chose ther candidate on those terms alone.
    Last edited by HessStation; 10-23-2012 at 11:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doggin94it View Post
    That was the Romney plan, obviously, and he executed. And I don't think the "1980 called, it wants its foreign policy back" line went over very well (not presidential, but it certainly did its job of signifying).

    IMO, people are confusing things a bit. Obama won that debate - but Romney didn't need to win it, since this won't be a foreign policy election. Romney just needed to get past the "if we elect this guy we'll be back at war" hurdle - and he did that job just fine. Which is why CNN's snap polls can both say, by a relatively large margin, that Obama won the debate (48%-40%) and, simultaneously, that slightly more of the undecided panel was convinced to vote for Romney by the debate than were convinced to vote for Obama (25%-24%).

    As David Gergen put it, Romney passed the commander in chief test. (More CNN polling: 63% think Obama can handle the job as commander in chief, 60% think Romney can)
    Generally speaking, I agree.

    I maintain, though, that (R) and (D) foreign policy is not materially different these days. Bush, Obama, Romney, on the foreign policy/defense/counter-terrorism/domestic spying/treatement of terrorists front we're likely to get very much the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    Monster win for O.
    Second monster win in a row, right? Biden smacked Ryan around too!

    And yet... Rasmussen is joining Gallup in detecting the seismic Romney shift and even Obama's intrade firewall is beginning to crumble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sackdance View Post
    Second monster win in a row, right? Biden smacked Ryan around too!

    And yet... Rasmussen is joining Gallup in detecting the seismic Romney shift and even Obama's intrade firewall is beginning to crumble.
    With all due respect Rasmussen has had Romney ahead in 42 states since 2010.

    Maybe he's funded by the Kock Bros too

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