I listed Avril's situation with being an UFA who has already been franchised once.
Revis will have some cap ramifications if traded before the last years of his deal voids...sorry I dont know the intriciacies of what they are.
With the amount of pure, unintelligent crap on this board, you are going to criticize me for a lack of salary cap evaluation? Do we not have $20 + million coming off our books that woudl allow us to take a cap hit if we want?
You are a Pats bi+ch who comes on a Jets boad and gives opinions that NO ONE here is interested in hearing. You would think it would stop there, save the advice for your Pats board.
a four man line of Avril, Coples, Ellis and Wilkerson would be a terrific building block for this defense for years to come.
Megatron is the only other Lions player I'd consider but no way is Detroit ever trading him.
At this time the jets are 20 mill over the cap for next year. 30mill of which can be skimmed off by Cutting Eric Smith, Jason Smith, Pace and Scott.
You need 5 mill for the rookies. So that leaves the jets with only 5 mill to replace 14 front line players.
LB- Pace, Scott, Thomas
Oline- Smith, Slauson, Moore
D-line Devito (don't count maybin as he has not stepped up)
Safety- Smith, Landry and Scott and Bell
The jets are going to be hard pressed to replace 1/2 of those FA with vets by cutting even more players or reworking deals and stealing future cap dollars. To think that signing Avril to a 13mill contract is reasonable move is faulty logic at best.
My thoughts on the issue are at least reasonable, yours are not. (pats *****- how cute)
First off you left off pouha who, with the cap hit, will still save us $4million more.
But more importantly there are a bunch of different things that can happen during an offseason. For example, the texans saw that a former all-pro ILB in demeco ryans didnt fit their needs so they traded him and his salary for a 4th round pick. Sending david harris somewhere for a 4th round pick, to get that $9 million off our cap (and the necessary money for a passrusher) would be a deal the FO would do in one minute. Not saying its gonna happen, but its plausible, and it happened 1 whole offseason ago.
Things happen, and this thread is not some ridiculous lets trade brandon moore for demarcus ware. It 2 teams, with needs that are aligned and the POTENTIAL for something to be discussed on this board....
B) you are a pats*****
C) worry about your two decades in the basement when your aging queen QB trades in his cleats and heads off to Hollyweird with Dominatrix Jizabella to play with his gerbils..NLT than end of next season
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Total Cap Hit Salary on the Books for 2013: $106,988,969
Percentage of that belonging to Megatron, Suh, Vanden Bosch, and Stafford: 56%
Total Players on the Books for 2013: 28
Projected Team Cap: $128,000,000
I'm just glad we have that beast Chaz Schilens who is on pace for 28 catches and 276 yards for the year.
The pats are not getting any more cap dollars either, and have thier own players to sign. And the pats won 3 divisions and went to the SB once in the 6 years before Brady came on.
There are a lot of teams that will take on 6 mill in salary, 11mill is a lot harder to absorb. So no, I don't in light of his salary that a trade is feasible.
Even if it is a good fit for the Lions does anyone really think they want to take on the notoriously diffucult-to-sign and always unhappy-with-his-current-deal Darrelle Revis just in time for him to feel like he deserves to get the biggest payday of his career?
Why would ANY team do that even if he is a good fit?
I wouldn't say we are in a mess next year. This year yes but next year we have a ton of movable cap. Oh and you can also trade players to make cap genus. How much dead money do we have from trading Hunters 100% gar money? Is that 50k I see! Here are some #s without trading anyone.
1. Restructure Harris - He only has 2 mil gar next year on 7 mil and is the only guy worth extending. Move 1 mil to next year and give him 2 more years at 7 with anther 9 mil gar. He still gets his 20 mil over the next 2 years and we get 5 mill in cap space. Min risk for both parties because we are likely to keep him anther 2 years regardless. 136,589,382
2. Cut Jason Smith - 12 mil cut duh. 124,589,382
3. Cut Pace - 8.56mil 116,029,382
4. Cut Scott - 7.15 mil 108,879,382
5. Cut Pouha he isn't playing now and we are fine at DT. 3.833332mil 105,046,050
6. Cut Eric Smith 3 mil 102,046,00
Right there that is over 20 mil in cap space. 40 MIL ON ONLY 6 MOVES!
Harris got 19 mill in salary guarantees in addition to the 10 mill SB. 1/2 of his salary for next year is guaranteed already. and his salary is 10.9 mill next year along with a 2mill SB amortization for a cap hit of 13 mil total.
When this contract ends he will be 31, and you want to extend him for more years. Most jet fans are already concerned that he may be slowing down now, never mind two years from now. Look at what you are paying Pace and Scott now, that is the value that Harris will be bringing at that age, But yes you can cut his cap hit by 5 mill next year no problem there.
Right you got 23 mill in cap room, and 5 mill of which goes to the rookies next year so now you have 18 mill to sign or replace Landry, Bell, and Smith at safety. Slauson, Moore, Smith on the oline, Pouha and Devtio on the Dline, Shon Greene at RB, Keller at TE, Schillens at WR, and Pace, Scott, Maybin, and Thomas at LB. and Folk at kicker. That is 16 players who are getting a lot of playing time or are starters to replace for only 1.15 mill a piece. If you get 3 starters out of the 2013 draft that leaves 13 players at 1.35 mill a piece.
Then you need to add money for guys like Malone and Austin Howard. Howard as a starting T will need to be tagged at the 2 mill level or the jets will lose him with no comp.
The purpose of my post was not to express an opinion that the jets were in cap hell or anything, just that they were in no position to absorb the cap hit from trading Revis and signing a big name 13 mill a year FA. Just that one move is 16 mill of cap room. The jets will be in position to restock by getting 3 or 4, 2.5 to 4 mill a year vet FA players and get another 4 or 5 from the bargain basement and rely on 4 guys on the roster to step up their roles and 3 or 4 more starters from next year's class.
Last edited by patman; 10-26-2012 at 09:34 PM.