How old is he?
We have one of the worst running backs in the league in Greene and literally everyone else is hurt. However if Greene complemented Deangelo it could work very well.
NFL Network's Michael Lombardi believes the Panthers would be willing to listen to "any offer" for DeAngelo Williams.
Lombardi is speculating here and not reporting. Williams has three years remaining on a five-year, $43 million extension signed last offseason, and is entering the declining stage of his career. His contract would make any potential trade unlikely. Williams has already been demoted from the starting lineup, and it's becoming clear that the Panthers now view Jonathan Stewart as their featured back. Williams could be made expendable with Mike Tolbert under contract for the next two seasons.
Deangelos contract would need to be reworked clearly. But if he is traded for his signing bonus will accelerate making a reworked trade very easy if yearly salary is agreed upon by team/player.
Being that the Panthers are screwed for the signing bonus this deal is not bad at all.Here is Deangelos contract 7/29/2011: Signed a five-year, $43 million contract. The deal contains $21 million guaranteed, including a $16 million signing bonus and $5 million of Williams' second-year base salary. 2012: $5.25 million, 2013: $4.75 million, 2014: $5.75 million, 2015: $6.75 million, 2016: Free Agent
Last edited by KR; 10-26-2012 at 07:46 PM.
How old is he?
Yes, lets trade for an injury-prone running back who would be 30 next season and put another huge contract on the books.
Forget finding a much younger one in the draft for a 1/10 of the cost, lets continue to piss away draft picks.
Only for Tebow.
Tebow can't play the first 3 quarters.
Cam can't close in the 4th.
Both run the read option. Newton actually backed up Tebow in college for a little while and seems to look up to him.
Makes perfect sense. It really won't be hard to get Tebow Time in Carolina when Sulk Time takes over Newton. Get it done. This would be a dream come true for me
But...it probably won't happen
Last edited by Whichfan; 10-26-2012 at 07:59 PM.
2)the draft pick will likely be a third day pick which is less then what we likely spend in the next year or two in the draft(Greene is. Fa and there's no way we are giving him a big contract). Also we might be able to get him for a player ala the Jason smith deal.
As we know Shonn Greene has put up some of the worst stats in the NFL this season for a starting RB(Especially barring the Colts game). His DVOA is 26th in the league fresh off the Colts game. Before that he was 32nd in the league(worst).
Lets look at last year.
Deangelo Williams avg 5.4 yards per carry, with a DVOA that ranked 3rd overall in the NFL. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb2011
Shonn Greene ranking last year? 25th in DVOA again.
Jus saying it right now. Carolina is a mess. Deangelo Williams was one of the best backs in the league for the last 5 years and avg nearly 5 yards per carry over that time with NO QB.
You can likely get him VERY CHEAP in terms of draft picks, and his contract will be reworked clearly. But this guy would be a great guy to trade for and would be very similar to when we traded for Thomas Jones.
Him and Shonn Greene would be a great compliment to eachother(until we upgrade on Greene).
Last edited by KR; 10-26-2012 at 09:51 PM.
Last edited by patman; 10-26-2012 at 09:44 PM.
id rather have john stewart
Trading for DeAngelo Williams would make absolutely NO sense.
I want no part of a 30-year-old RB with a massive contract and long injury history.
Moves like this are the type desperate GMs make right before they get fired and retard the team's growth.
i would take stewert .. but not 30 yr old deangelo
It seems like we have attempted to get RB's in the mid rounds and we have yet to find any good RB since Martin left several years ago. Sure, a guy like Greene gets a ton of carries here but he has to be one of the worst starting RBs in the NFL. Powell has some upside, but how much?
Lastly When I bring up Williams hes a guy that should be looked at as if he is a bargain veteran guy. If the contracts expensive, or the cost alot we need to stay away. But there still is upside there as he was a top 3 NFL RB per touch as recently as last year.
We all watch the NFL every week and when just about any RB gets the ball he always makes atleast the first guy miss or breaks tackles. As of a few games ago Greene had broken 1 tackle in the entire season. He actually looks for contact then goes down.
I would be shocked if we don't address the RB position this off-season. While I do prefer a rookie, Ill be shocked if a few vets like Deangelo are not in the discussion. This is a FO that had alot of success with Thomas Jones, and then went out and signed Ladianian Tomlinson who were aging vets past their prime similar to Williams.
Last edited by KR; 10-27-2012 at 12:36 AM.