The big debate on what's dividing the country is 24/7 biased news outlets completing for ratings and headlines.
Last edited by HessStation; 11-08-2012 at 02:47 PM.
So . . . nobody cares to comment on the fact that the GOP expressly targeted the "Negrophobe" vote in the 70s, and expressly said they would never need or want more than 10% of the black vote?
Obviously they underestimated the black electorate and the enthusiasm a black candidate would bring. That can explain their faulty reasoning in believing they would never "need" more than 10%. But in fairness the political landscape has changed so it is hard to judge the 1970's Republican Party by today's issues.
Now the question is whether they were being racists or realists? Saying they never "want more than 10%" sounds racist IMO. Was that an official party platform or was it a handful of members speaking? There is a difference.
Either way, I do not see them ever cracking 10% of the black vote in the foreseeable future. The Reps have to gain ground with women and Hispanics and Asians, who are overlooked as well. I think it can be done.
And I do think this is a two way street. Some Dems have pandered to "anti-white" factions of their party. Biden "put y'all back in chains". Obama, "voting is the best revenge".
But I'll give you an analogy. There's an entire generation of Jews - holocast survivors and large numbers of their children - who will never feel comfortable setting foot in Germany. No matter what policies the Germans adopt, no matter how Israel friendly they are (and, the circumcision idiocy aside, Germany is actually quite Israel/Jew friendly these days), the impressions and feelings left by the Holocaust are so strong that they simply cannot be overcome by facts, no matter how presented, no matter how compelling.
The same applies here. For many African Americans, voting Republican isn't just unlikely - it's unthinkable. Not because of any real deep weighing of particular policies and positions on an election by election basis - but because 40 years ago, Republicans emphatically defined themselves to that community as wholly unacceptable, as the enemy. It's an attitude parents will and have passed on to their children, and its going to take decades more for that effect to fade away.
It was the Karl Rove of the time, talking about the GOP's election strategy that got Nixon the Presidency, and their plan for future elections.Now the question is whether they were being racists or realists? Saying they never "want more than 10%" sounds racist IMO. Was that an official party platform or was it a handful of members speaking? There is a difference.
Except that messaging wasn't about "whites" - it was about Republicans. Rightly or wrongly (and I think wrongly) they are reinforcing the message that black folks can't trust Republicans. It's good politics for them, bad for the country - because the Republicans aren't the "Negrophobe party" any more, and policy differences deserve to be resolved by voters based on analysis, not prejudice. But that's the reality - and it's one the GOP quite literally brought on themselves.And I do think this is a two way street. Some Dems have pandered to "anti-white" factions of their party. Biden "put y'all back in chains". Obama, "voting is the best revenge".
People like Phil Gramm initially started out as Democrats.
One of the best answers I've read since election day on this issue.
Peaceful Germans of 2012 should be shunned because of the acts of their forebears in 1940? We are told we should ignore Muslim atrocities
against America that happened last month and not hate Muslims by some of the same doofuses!
Even though no party historically has done more to hurt blacks than (D),
(R), the party of Lincoln is now worse than (D). Blacks werent even invited to the (D) convention until 1924.
(R) never had Blacks in chains.
Ill give a few clues out for the benefit of the usual suspects who need some. Blacks have voted predominantly (D) since 1936 and been predominantly (D) registered since 1950. All that even though (D) was the Jim Crow party through the 1960s, supposedly because (D) rolled back their own Teens Wilson segregation policies in the 30s and 40s-FEPC etc.
Nevertheless, Eisenhower and Nixon received as much as 40% of Black support but the turning point was 1964 when MLK a GOPer told blacks to vote against Goldwater (who was against the CRA) and vote for LBJ (a virulent racist also against the CRA). No matter that GOP Congressmen voted the CRA/VRA in MLK said to vote against GOP then, so ever it must be so.
As for the sub-cipher B. Hussein-strictly Identity Politics all the way. Real wages and income down, more so for Blacks, Black UE up, but, he is one of "us"! He'll eventually get it done, maybe his 3rd term...
Last edited by Jungle Shift Jet; 11-08-2012 at 05:26 PM.