We need to give him till at least 2018 to see if he can build as a player, and MORE importantly, if the team can surround him with talent to succeed.
If we give up and ditch the Sanchize, he may be a total, complete franchise QB by 2021.
Silly SOJF's will never get that.
He's had a constant shift of talent at RB and WR going back the last 2 years, that will cause a QB a lot of problems, chemistry and timing is always an issue, QB and offensive skill players are not completely on the same page.
Your last line is comically ignorant, so you think Sanchez just throws an interception because he feels like it? Nothing to do with poor pass protection, trying to make a play, being out of sync with a receiver on a particular route, or even a new offense and having to play with players rotating in and out of the line-up, off the couch, and off the injury list?
And your answer to Sanchez' problems is play Tebow, we know, because his numbers are just so much better as a starter last year than Sanchez.
Wow he really is Rah Rah
Brian Costello (@BrianCoz) tweeted at 1:24 PM on Thu, Nov 08, 2012:
I walked by the Jets fieldhouse before and Metallica was blaring as they try to simulate the crowd noise in Seattle. @DWaz73 would approve
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If McKnight can't play, Clyde Gates and Cromartie would split KR duties. #nyj
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Sparano on the plays Ryan drew up: "mama didnt raise no fool. I'm going to use them." #jets #nyj
This kind of thing happens to a large number of QBs in the NFL and they don't suck as badly as Sanchez does because of it. Hell, look at all the rookies and 2nd year players who are playing much better than Sanchez right now.He's had a constant shift of talent at RB and WR going back the last 2 years, that will cause a QB a lot of problems, chemistry and timing is always an issue, QB and offensive skill players are not completely on the same page.
I remember watching the Miami game and people went on about how Sanchez had to throw the ball so much, that you couldn't be successful putting the game on his shoulders. I then watched a freaking rookie, Andrew Luck, with an interim coach and a team in the midst of a total rebuild, throw 48 passes for 433 yards against the Phins to win the game.
We are 8 games into the season, well past the time to be crying about adjusting to a new offense. Guess what ? A bunch of QBs are working in new offenses this year and they aren't sucking like Sanchez has. All the Rookie starters are in a new offense of course. All teams with new offensive coordinators are as well, like Big Ben in Pittsburgh.Your last line is comically ignorant, so you think Sanchez just throws an interception because he feels like it? Nothing to do with poor pass protection, trying to make a play, being out of sync with a receiver on a particular route, or even a new offense and having to play with players rotating in and out of the line-up, off the couch, and off the injury list?
As for poor pass protection, Median NFL sacks is 18, Sanchez has only been sacked 19 times. Let's dig down into the numbers a bit further and look at sack %, which is the number of sacks / number of pass attempts + number of sacks. Sanchez gets sacked at a rate of 6.46%, which is 13th worst in the NFL, but guess what's awfully funny about the 12 QBs with higher sack %'s ? They ALL have better passer ratings.
Thing is, you can do this for every variable/reason you care to list. In every case, Sanchez is amongst the worst.
Tell you what. You and others who talk about how good Sanchez was in 2009 and how he led the Jets to the AFC Championship would be shocked to find that Tebow's stats from his first 16 starts are comparable to, and in many cases, better than, the stats that Sanchez put up in 2009.And your answer to Sanchez' problems is play Tebow, we know, because his numbers are just so much better as a starter last year than Sanchez.
I'm at the point where I'm definitely fine with seeing if Tebow has improved from last year, seeing as how Sanchez hasn't shown any farking improvement.
If he hasn't, then take him out and put McElroy in. See what he can do.
Last edited by Demosthenes9; 11-09-2012 at 02:21 AM.
Demos going hard in the paint, lol
Mark Sanchez is bottom 5 of the QBs in the league and he's been in the bottom part of the rankings every year that he's been in the NFL.
@MMehtaNYDN: Jets RB Joe McKnight, who aggravated his high ankle sprain 2 weeks ago, is unlikely to play vs Seahawks on Sunday, I'm told. #nyj
Compared with Teblows. Mark Sanchez is Joe Montana
So is every other first second or third string quarterback in the NFL, CFL, Arena League and most High Schools
Teblows SUCKS and should have been put on waivers during the bye week
We could have rid ourselves of this curse PLUS the additional biblical plague that has rained down on the Jets since March known as Demosthenes ucrenegade daballhawk joewnamath and the rest of Saint Timmy's halfwitted disciples
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I honestly don't get what people complain about when they talk about some mythical influx of Tebow posters. They really aren't here. And, to the extent that some posters that were here latched on to him, that's more of a function of Sanchez's play, not the aura of Tebow. They may have been annoying and premature, but thus far, it doesn't look like they were too far off base. At least at this juncture.
Second, I'm asking you to stop with the personal attacks. Write them out and delete them before you post if that makes you feel better. But just quit it. There's simply no reason to have include name calling in 75% of your posts - it makes others respond in kind, clutters threads with unnecessary back and forths and generally drags the dialogue into the gutter.
I'm asking you again - nicely. Please stop.
That goes for everyone else too, not just Ray.