I think we're on the same page here. The environmental alarmists have done a huge disservice to the rational environmental conservationists who simply want a cleaner planet.
Absolutely, and the unwillingness of the the "alarmists" to consider solutions other than regulate more, consume less, distracts from real opportunists.
I hate the fact that the US hasn't embraced nuclear energy. It would lower our emissions quite a bit, and in the long run it would make our energy much cheaper. However that's not ok with the politically active environmentalists. We are allowed to use solar and wind (very expensive and inefficient). Geothermal and hydroelectric (expensive and can only be used in limited places). Just nothing that might actually work without huge government subsidies.
Trades, Parafly, Axil, Warfish: Great posts in this thread. Thanks for restoring not only this thread, but the board in general. Nice to see intelligent, thought-out posts for a change. This place has been a zoo.