At the top you have Barkley (you want another QB outta USC????) and Gino Smith.
Then you move down and since Lattimore blew out his leg, the RB's take a dive to the bottom of round 2.
This team is headed for a pick in the teens, where there appears to be a glut of defensive and offensive linemen similar to last year.
Trade down and grab a RB. They will not draft another QB with Sanchez still eating up that cap space and Tebow not getting a shot at starting (the owner wants Tebow to play.)
Trade away whatever is needed to attain either Jacksonville or Cleveland's early round pick in 2013.
Then combined with your own projected top 10 selection based on the presumed roster, package them together and potentially move to #1 or #2 overall based on who ends up at 1 or 2.
Similar to what Washington did to get their guy this year (RG3.)
But hey, you SOJF's are happy with being crapped on by the Pats over and over and never having a legit shot at #1 overall coming out of the AFC, that's fine by me. But when the 2013 Jets are struggling like the 2011 and 2012 Jets have just to stay ahead of .500 because they don't make big moves like this to get top-flight talent then maybe you'll think creatively instead of having faith in this bunch of tools who find playing for AFC Championships and losing and QB's who can't break 300 yards passing or 60% completion percentages are going to get the job done, then more power to you.
I'm glued to reality. And here's a final thought to remember:
A rookie QB on a terrible roster with essentially two defensive ends, a wide receiver, and nothing else are the top wildcard seed right now.
A rookie QB who is, in his rookie season, WILL FINISH WITH BETTER NUMBERS THAN SANCHEZ'S BEST CAREER SEASON.
IMO, if the Jets end up getting a pick in the middle or latter-stages of the 1st round, that's where they more-than-often "hit".
True but to be honest with you.....ANYTHING that delays/keeps Tebow from coming onto the field playing Crappy football is fine by me. He's not an NFL-Caliber QB.B) A win in which Sanchez looked passable (which is deemed acceptable by this idiot coach and GM and his stooges) delays the inevitable Tebow swap, basically pushing back the entire time line because you are out of your mind if you think Woody isn't going to force Tebow to get a shot at starting after they finally scrap Sanchez.
Then call me INSANE because if you would rather watch the Browns, THEN GO WATCH THE BROWNS!!C) A&B tie to the fact that this team is boring. The offense is horrid to watch. The system is boring, there's not a single elite playmaker. There's essentially nothing outside of how awful Sanchez looks the majority of the time. How bad is it? I'd rather watch the Browns. At least Trent Richardson is exciting. Most sane football fans are probably with me.
Only stuck with the QB for one more year, IMO. Though the Rex/Tanny/Sparano combo staying longer would concern me....D) If they somehow make the playoffs, which is essentially going undefeated after the Patriots game (almost a guaranteed loss as they've hit their stride) then Woody will continue soldiering forward with these clowns. Which means you are perpetually in limbo. Stuck with #5 overall QB's picked while mortgaging drafts for more boring football......
I bet he would be great in PRESEASON games......I'd rather they suck for the next two years, get Jadaveon Clowney and whether they are good or not are irrelevant.
At the very least Clowney will be entertaining.
Oh wait...you meant Sanchez? GIVE ME A BREAK!
It's FACT, "genius".
As much as I hate it(thanks, Tanny), Mark is going to be our Starting QB for at least another year.
You have to stockpile picks to have REAL leverage to trade up. Like Shanahan did.
Clowney is not just a "DE." Watch a South Carolina game. The guy blows up TRIPLE TEAMS against SEC Offensive Linemen. He was so good as a freshman that Melvin Ingram was a first rounder.
The team is locked into Sanchez until 2013. Continually blumpkinning mid teen picks without a glut of them is not going to amount to crap. This team NEEDS to suck simply to clear a lot of junk off its roster that is eating up cap space.
Then be built by somebody who has a clue from the ground up. A large part of that is recognizing your strengths (Ellis, Coples, Wilkerson, Revis, Cromartie) then BUILDING TO COMPLEMENT THAT while addressing weaknesses.
Clowney COULD NOT BE DOUBLED without freeing up Wilk or Coples. The corners have always been great in coverage, but the inability to force throws (like Watt in Houston) and tip them is exactly what Clowney excels at, exposing the safeties which were a major weakness prior to this year.
Granted, offense will still need help, but I don't think you get that this is a 4-5 year rebuild.
RG3 was obviously a lot more heralded coming out than Sanchez, so I realize we're not talking about the same player, but it's the same idea. The team doesn't have to suck to get a player they fall in love with - they just have to recognize the greatness in that player and then sacrifice depth to get him.
Some teams do this well. The Jets on the other hand, trade up for guys like D-Rob and Sanchez. Tanking two seasons in a row doesn't mean this FO comes away with the right players, so there's no value in this bunch taking that approach.
In 2013 they need to be able to trade up to get more picks in that draft, to package together to get up into the top 3 of that draft.
Part of that sucking starts now. Sorry to burst your bubble of alternate reality that this Jets team can win a Super Bowl. Unless you think merely being competitive is OK. Which is inline with SOJF's.
This Jets team will be lucky to be a true Super bowl contender in the next 4-5 years.
Andrew Luck was a once in a generation player by all accounts and so the idea of being bad enough to get the #1 overall or even to get yourself into the top 3 is not necessarily something that will help your franchise every year. I do not know enough to know if Clowney meets the once in a generation criteria.
It is also true that a GM in his 2nd or 3rd year cannot really pursue this kind of strategy. By that time any new GM is expected to have the team on some kind of an upswing. Perhaps the last thing the Mike Tannenbaum "owes" this organization is to preside over a truly lousy 2013 campaign before getting fired. We will need to identify which of our tradeable resources would not fit in the timeline for a rebuilding and then try to get as much for them as we can. I do not think we have many of those but if we do, we should think in terms of what draft picks we can get for them.
Finally and this has been said before, if we have kids that we think will benefit in the future from seasoning under fire this year or next year then we should go ahead and get them into games this year whenever possible.
Finally, finally, if we plan to pursue a strategy that may yield a glut of draft picks then we need to find a way to not waste them. A complete self review of our own scouting and drafting organization is required with a view to trying to understand what went well and what went wrong in recent drafts.
LOL at jets fans that can't even enjoy a Jets win. I have no problem playing for a high draft pick, but not this early in the season. Plus, now we all get spend the next three days dreaming about what happens if we beat the Pats.
You play to win....period. End of story.
What makes you think the pick we will get at 4-12 (cough Gholston cough) will work out any better than we'll get at around 15-20 (cough Coples cough).
You play to win, or don't play at all.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8...the-usc-d-lineAndrew Luck was a once in a generation player by all accounts and so the idea of being bad enough to get the #1 overall or even to get yourself into the top 3 is not necessarily something that will help your franchise every year. I do not know enough to know if Clowney meets the once in a generation criteria.
If Luckw as available this year and we needed to lose yesterday to lock him up, i would be ok with throwing the game. But there is no Luck in this years class. So to lose intentionally to insure getting a 4-7 pick versus 10-13 is just stupid. We were never going to catch up to KC and the Jags (both need QBs) so we were never going to be able to land the top 1 or 2 QBs in the draft.