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    Post Finally, Fox News becomes fair and balanced

    At least for a few minutes anyway.....

    Fox News interview ends abruptly after author accuses channel of 'operating as GOP wing'

    NEW YORK - A Fox News Channel interview ended abruptly Monday after an author accused the network of hyping the killing of four Americans in Benghazi, Libya, and "operating as a wing of the Republican Party."

    The charges were made by Thomas Ricks, a veteran newspaper reporter and author of "The Generals," who was brought on for an interview with anchor Jon Scott about GOP criticism of U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice's comments about the attacks.

    Ricks said he thought the story of the Benghazi attacks was "hyped, by this network especially."

    Scott asked why Ricks would call it hype when four Americans were killed, including the first U.S. ambassador in more than 30 years.

    Ricks responded that few people knew how many U.S. security contractors were killed in Iraq and compared that to the attention paid to "what was essentially a small firefight" in Libya.

    "I think that the emphasis on Benghazi has been extremely political, partly because Fox was operating as a wing of the Republican Party," Ricks said.

    With that, Scott thanked him and turned to a co-anchor, who introduced a commercial.

    "When Mr. Ricks ignored the anchor's question, it became clear that his goal was to bring attention to himself and his book," Fox News executive Michael Clemente said.

    http://in.news.yahoo.com/fox-news-in...054402321.html

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    Great news!

    Now if we can only get MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS, NPR, CNN, most major news prints and 95% of academia to follow their lead.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanPatsFan View Post
    Great news!

    Now if we can only get MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS, NPR, CNN, most major news prints and 95% of academia to follow their lead.....
    Yes, and the bar has been set so high; about 6 minutes of air time.

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    And Mr Dicks is an Obumbler apologist. This is news and thread-worthy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quantum View Post
    And Mr Dicks is an Obumbler apologist. This is news and thread-worthy?
    At the time of my posting this associated press article, it was the number one trending story on Yahoo. Clearly more then a few find it news worthy, no?

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    Another fox news thread? Really?

    LMAO

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    JI's esteemed educator thinks it is just fine to have an American ambssador and his staff murdered. Typical liberal thinking. He probably tells his students that they deserved it being imperialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frequent Flyer View Post
    Another fox news thread? Really?

    LMAO
    They continue to make news from the Rove/election night incident to the owner of the corporation himself.

    And your reaction is interesting from this point of view; what does it say about an alledged news network when it makes news for having 6 minutes of actual fair and balanced debate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    They continue to make news from the Rove/election night incident to the owner of the corporation himself.

    And your reaction is interesting from this point of view; what does it say about an alledged news network when it makes news for having 6 minutes of actual fair and balanced debate?
    This is like talking to a brick wall.

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    The world is ****ed. #1 reason is news/media. It's a ratings game. Everyone has an agenda. There is no fair and balanced anywhere. People are sheep. We all suck. Word is born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frequent Flyer View Post
    Another fox news thread? Really?

    LMAO
    Well, we're certainly not going to see him (or any serious answer from him) in the Teacher Fraud Ring thread.

    It's typical socialist/leftist/unionist tactics to run what is effectively endless propaganda demonizing your opponents. I assure you, if guys like IJF controlled the State more fully, things like FOXNews would be banned, and people who supported such things arrested under some pretext. History if full of examples of leftist intolerence for political disagreement of any kind, or any movement that would stand against their utopian ideas of collectivism. IJF is just a typical leftist IMO on this count. If it does not agree with him, it's evil, lying and should be silenced by any means needed.

    If it agrees with him, all sins are forgiven and ignroed, despite being exactly the same as what he's critical of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    Well, we're certainly not going to see him (or any serious answer from him) in the Teacher Fraud Ring thread.

    It's typical socialist/leftist/unionist tactics to run what is effectively endless propaganda demonizing your opponents. I assure you, if guys like IJF controlled the State more fully, things like FOXNews would be banned, and people who supported such things arrested under some pretext. History if full of examples of leftist intolerence for political disagreement of any kind, or any movement that would stand against their utopian ideas of collectivism. IJF is just a typical leftist IMO on this count. If it does not agree with him, it's evil, lying and should be silenced by any means needed.

    If it agrees with him, all sins are forgiven and ignroed, despite being exactly the same as what he's critical of.
    Bingo. We have a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    Well, we're certainly not going to see him (or any serious answer from him) in the Teacher Fraud Ring thread.

    It's typical socialist/leftist/unionist tactics to run what is effectively endless propaganda demonizing your opponents. I assure you, if guys like IJF controlled the State more fully, things like FOXNews would be banned, and people who supported such things arrested under some pretext. History if full of examples of leftist intolerence for political disagreement of any kind, or any movement that would stand against their utopian ideas of collectivism. IJF is just a typical leftist IMO on this count. If it does not agree with him, it's evil, lying and should be silenced by any means needed.

    If it agrees with him, all sins are forgiven and ignroed, despite being exactly the same as what he's critical of.
    What a well written and interesting piece of fiction. I particularly enjoyed the fictional antagonist in your short story. Hell, you even lend background information on your villain; the scary commie-leftist who rails against the misunderstood corporation who are merely trying to earn a profit and offer a service to the public. Well done.

    I also find it interesting that its okay for you to develop almost daily threads that promote your causes (evil unions, teachers, liberals etc etc). But when people of a different political persuasion does the same you feel the need to create a fictional narrative to dismiss their point of view.

    Now I apologize for interrupting your short story but here is my actual opinion on news and censorship; the corporations like Fox, MSNBC have every right to run their business in a way that maximizes profit by offering programming that achieves ratings. Rush Limbaugh is successful because a lot of people listen so advertisers pay. He is entitled to say what he wants and should not be censored as long as he does not trample on the first amendment rights of others.

    But there should be certain agreed upon journalistic standards that need to be met if these shows want to achieve the status of 'news'. If they do not want to offer actual fair and balanced news coverage and opinions then they should not be made to change what works. Instead their shows should be listed as 'news entertainment'. It is a simple distinction to help the consumer understand what product they are consuming (in the same way food products have labels to distinguish what is inside their product for the benefit of the consumer). There is precedent here; the WWE was forced to change their status from sports to sports entertainment when it was admitted that their product was not real. WWE is still wildly successful and their business has actually become more profitable.

    That is my opinion on the media and censorship; feel free to create a fictional narrative to change what I believe......
    Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 11-27-2012 at 01:07 PM.

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    While Fox news is clearly a wing of the Republican Party we still haven't gotten a reasoned explanation of the first Ambasador killed in 30 years from the White House.

    The question I have for the legitimate journalists like Mr. Dicks is why are they ignoring this continuing cover up.

    Ronald Reagan was rightly taken to task for a little arms deal. Nobody accussed the NY Times or CBS of being tools for the Democratic Party for beating that story like a dead mule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winstonbiggs View Post
    While Fox news is clearly a wing of the Republican Party we still haven't gotten a reasoned explanation of the first Ambasador killed in 30 years from the White House.

    The question I have for the legitimate journalists like Mr. Dicks is why are they ignoring this continuing cover up.

    Ronald Reagan was rightly taken to task for a little arms deal. Nobody accussed the NY Times or CBS of being tools for the Democratic Party for beating that story like a dead mule.

    Fox is overmatched. MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN are all major Democratic mouthpieces.
    There is a coverup becsause the administration will look bad anyway the situation unfolds. Obama can't look bad. His ego is too big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    What a well written and interesting piece of fiction. I particularly enjoyed the fictional antagonist in your short story. Hell, you even lend background information on your villain; the scary commie-leftist who rails against the misunderstood corporation who are merely trying to earn a profit and offer a service to the public. Well done.
    Overly wordy deflection with no actual on-topic content.

    I also find it interesting that its okay for you to develop almost daily threads that promote your causes (evil unions, teachers, liberals etc etc). But when people of a different political persuasion does the same you feel the need to create a fictional narrative to dismiss their point of view.
    A massive teacher fraud ring is news.

    What you posted (FOX is biased) is not. It's common knowledge, same as MSNBC being biased.

    Now I apologize for interrupting your short story but here is my actual opinion on news and censorship; the corporations like Fox, MSNBC have every right to run their business in a way that maximizes profit by offering programming that achieves ratings. Rush Limbaugh is successful because a lot of people listen so advertisers pay. He is entitled to say what he wants and should not be censored as long as he does not trample on the first amendment rights of others.
    Blah Blah blah, bias is ok. Got it.

    But there should be certain agreed upon journalistic standards that need to be met if these shows want to achieve the status of 'news'.
    As determined by who? The Government? A consensus of media entities (the majority of whom are liberal)?

    If they do not want to offer actual fair and balanced news coverage and opinions then they should not be made to change what works
    Again, as determined by who? Free speech and a free and independant media comes with the "drawback" of the USER having the power and responsabillity to decide bias and legitimacy, not the STATE or some cabal of media enforcing their ideas on all media.

    Instead their shows should be listed as 'news entertainment'.
    Listed by who? Enforced by who? At what point did you decide you should have power over the freedoms of others, and hence the right to limit their freedom via State-based deligimization?

    It is a simple distinction to help the consumer understand what product they are consuming (in the same way food products have labels to distinguish what is inside their product for the benefit of the consumer).
    TLDR: So FOX can be labeled entertainment, and the Washington Post, ABC, CNN et al. can be labeled as "News" thus invalidating the opposing viewpoint, and bulwarking the leftiest viewpoint as the "only real news", all (to be sure) enforced by the State.

    Big fan of free speech I see.

    There is precedent here; the WWE was forced to change their status from sports to sports entertainment when it was admitted that their product was not real.
    That is because the events were scripted and predetermined. This is irrelevant to the expression of the freedom of speech and media.

    That is my opinion on the media and censorship; feel free to create a fictional narrative to change what I believe......
    I don;t need to create anything, you provide more than enough ammo withyour own words.

    What you've asked for here in real world terms is a State-Run Baord (or Consensus Media Board) that will pass judgement on News sources, and provide either legitimacy or a total deligigimization as they see fit. In our system of Government, such a Board would be appointed, not elected, and could easily sway things with their actions, in effect silencing one viewpoint whilst promoting another. If a media board, it would be dominated by the majority viewpoint of medai agents, in the U.S. thats generally left-leaning, with FOX the only right-leaning major news body.

    What you want is exactly what I'd expect you to want, a system that promotes mainstream liberal news, and does all it can to crush FOX and Rush and other right-leaning news as dishonest "entertainment" on par with the WWE. As I said, control of the message and proapganda is a hallmark of those who stand against freedom of speech, not with it. You want US Media to look like it did in 1970, when the message was almost universal and universally liberal-baised with few to no conservative outlets.

    There is an ol saying. let the buyer beware. On almost all issues of the expression of free speech, including news and media, that is the only rule that matters. You choose to watch it, you choose to decide if you believe it. The States "help" in labeling news as valid or not is not required, nor appropriate.
    Last edited by Warfish; 11-27-2012 at 01:36 PM.

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    I watch all the cable news stations. I like to see how they cover stories and often flip back and forth between segments. FOX is easily the best. I will never understand the vitriol.

    If anybody thinks Hannity is nuts, just watch The Ed Show and get back to me.

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    Only person I watch on MSNBC is Maddow. I sometimes watch O'Reilly on FNC. I do like watching the election coverage of all 3 cable networks. FNC on election night was hilarious after they called Ohio and thus the presidency for President Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winstonbiggs View Post
    While Fox news is clearly a wing of the Republican Party we still haven't gotten a reasoned explanation of the first Ambasador killed in 30 years from the White House.

    The question I have for the legitimate journalists like Mr. Dicks is why are they ignoring this continuing cover up.

    Ronald Reagan was rightly taken to task for a little arms deal. Nobody accussed the NY Times or CBS of being tools for the Democratic Party for beating that story like a dead mule.
    Because there was and is no cover up. The White House and Congress both received the same intelligence that ended up being wrong. Where is John McCain's criticism of the CIA?

    Another thing, someone explain why Susan Rice is being targeted and not Hillary Clinton, who is actually directly responsible for foreign service members. It is fair to demand why this consulate was not closed or security beefed up after a prior attack, but this Susan Rice/cover-up angle has no merit.
    Last edited by 21st Amendment; 11-27-2012 at 09:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    They continue to make news from the Rove/election night incident to the owner of the corporation himself.

    And your reaction is interesting from this point of view; what does it say about an alledged news network when it makes news for having 6 minutes of actual fair and balanced debate?
    Your scrutiny of media objectivity would be more credible if you applied the same standard to MSNBC. You are as bad as Fox when it comes to bias...the irony is ironic.
    Last edited by PatriotReign; 11-27-2012 at 02:45 PM.

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