"Weak minded"? "Heart of a champion"? Why? Because you don't like his postgame press conferences where he's told to say nothing just like his head coach and GM?
Mark Sanchez' turnovers happen for a simple reason that everyone likes to overlook- he's trying to make a play while running for his life. And when you don't have playmaking receivers and you instead have a porous offensive line, it's all over anyway.
Mark Sanchez is a symptom, not the problem.
many of this so called comebacks had to be combeacks because Sanchez turnovers and bad play put the team in a hole in the first place
He no longer was getting good protection. He no longer had reliable receivers. He no longer had a running game. Didn't see it back when Tannenbaum made the decisions, but there was no gas in the tank for the two older guys and Hunter fell to pieces.
That Ravens game looks like something significant, but the Jets went 6-3 thereafter and were sitting at 8-5 with 3 to play. It wasn't a single event but rather the slow erosion of the WR's and RB's at the end of last season combined with the brutal miscalculation of offensive talent at the start of this season that ruined Mark Sanchez.
That is why, again, I am in the court of letting Mark get another season with a proper offensive coordinator and proper weapons. Mark's undoing coincided precisely when all his skill players aged and/or were cut. That's not coincidence in my book. Not like he failed with the same set of guys he succeeded with. The need to stack this defense cost us all the money/picks/focus needed to stack the offense. Mark is a symptom of a bigger problem.
He was drafted to be a franchise QB in a system that doesn't depend on the vertical game. If Ryan needed the second-coming of Dan Marino, he never would have been drafted. Period.
Rex Ryan waited too long to pull the plug. Rex Ryan can't coach his way out of a paper bag. Rex Ryan is coaching to save his job, you'll see him do a lot of desperate and silly things this month, the McElroy move being the first of many.
If Rex Ryan were such a great head coach, he wouldn't need to "light a spark" in the 3rd quarter of a game at home against a lousy western team 10 days after being humiliated on a national holiday. Rex Ryan can't motivate his players. That's the Jets problem stretching back to late 2009 to this very day.
See, after they lost back to back AFCCG's they made the playoffs two more times before fading to losing records and oblivion. For us, the fade was more like a cliff.
It also bears stating that we weren't some strong dynasty of any sort. Lucky to get to 9-7 the first time, very fortunate to get to 11-5 the next. What we were was a great playoff team. We've always been a lousy regular season team.
You get a narrow window to do something in the NFL, ours closed. Many reasons why, but it did. Everything we do now has to be geared towards 2015 when Brady and Belichick are gone and maybe, just maybe, our new head coach will be worth a damn.
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29th in completion percentage 54.8%
23 Jason Campbell
24 Kyle Orton
25 Donovan McNabb
26 Matt Cassel
27 Ryan Fitzpatrick
28 Kerry Collins
29 Mark Sanchez
30 Jimmy Clausen
31 Derek Anderson
26th in yards per attempt 6.49 yards
23 Matt Hasselbeck
24 Chad Henne
25 Kerry Collins
26 Mark Sanchez
27 Matt Ryan
28 Shaun Hill
29 Derek Anderson
27th ranked QB rating with 75.3
24 Donovan McNabb
25 Sam Bradford
26 Chad Henne
27 Mark Sanchez
28 Matt Hasselbeck
29 Brett Favre
30 Derek Anderson
Football outsiders stats placed him 22nd http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb2010
Besides the 4th quarter comeback statistic, by any other metric Sanchez wasn't even an average staring QB in 2010 despite the talent surrounding him.
That's what we saw out of Sanchez in 2010; he flashed that same style. It was reasonable to expect growth. But something went wrong. The team got worse. We know that. He got worse. Chicken? Egg?
We'll never know.
I felt that way last year, but this year, it looks more careless. The fumbles, in particular. He's in his 4th year as a pro QB, and he's absolutely lousy at securing the football when he's being hit. That's bad coaching and/or poor personal discipline.
Also, some of the interceptions have been unforced, and his pocket awareness has declined precipitously. He looks scared back there, seems to have lost his ability to step away from pressure.
Perhaps the Jets molded him into these traits, but they are still his traits.
We didn't score a TD in the entire preseason. We knew we had significant problems at WR, RB, and OL to go along with a banged-up TE and no depth at any offensive position way back in July.
Not sure why the current state of the Jets offense is a shock to anyone.
The real shock is that the supposed "best defense ever....best group of players I've been around including the 2000 Ravens" is WORSE than last year.
The real shock is that our "best special teams coach who ever lived" is WORSE than ever in his history.
The real shock is that Tim Tebow is a bust and did nothing but hurt our quarterback and slow down our offense.
The real shock is how bad Tony Sparano is at offensive coordination.
The real shock is that our "best mind in the game, seeing a sleep specialist, having leadership conferences, I've changed" head coach is coaching WORSE than he has since he's been here.
But no, everyone wants to talk about Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez.
Enough. Our QB is a lousy head case. Check. Got it. Let's talk about the real problems now. Being in denial and thinking the only issue is the quarterback gets us nowhere.
@ Denver: Jets tied at 10-10 in second half as defense allows a long drive for a TD to make it 17-10 Broncos. Jets tie it again at 17-17 and defense again allows long drive for a FG to fall behind 20-17 with 3:55 to go. Mark Sanchez comes down the field, LT scores with a minute left, Jets win 24-17.
Houston: Jets up 23-7 in the 4th quarter, defense gives up 2 TD's and 2 FG's in under 12 minutes wind up down 27-23 with under a minute to go. Sanchez leads a :45 second drive and hits the game winning TD with :10 seconds left.
@ Cleveland: Jets up 20-13 with 2:42 left, the defense lets Colt McCoy go 90 yards to tie it. Sanchez wins it in OT to Holmes.
I don't know, you tell me. What world are YOU watching the games in? Maybe your broadcasts come in from the rest of the world, eh?
Sar, please explain to me how you used to term "deliberately" in the correct sense:
Your back is to the wall. I will retract my use of the word "agenda" if you just admit you are playing verbal bullying games, and have lost wrt to Sanchez.If you drew up a strategy to deliberately f-ck up your first round franchise quarterback after watching him go 4-2 in the playoffs, you couldn't have executed it any better if you tried.
How about we just stop making excuses for him, the number one reason Mark Sanchez is screwed up is.....Mark Sanchez.