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    Why Abortion and Not Prostitution?

    Just curious, how can one support abortion rights (my body, my choice, state has no right to decide for me what she does with her body, etc) but NOT equally support the right of women to choose to engage in sex for money, i.e. prostitution?

    In both cases, it's is 100% use of a womans body, made by the woman in question.

    What would then be the rational argument by a Pro-Choice Supporter AGAINTS legalization of prostitution as a protected federal right, same as abortion?

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    As long as it is a transaction made between two consenting adults, I have no problem with legal prostitution. Just don't do it on the streets. Should order it like a pizza.

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    Prostitution should be legalized nationwide as it is in parts of Nevada. The State can and should regulate it, conduct testing etc. It is an interesting issue to ponder because some people see it as exploitation of women. I don't see it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefst2000 View Post
    Prostitution should be legalized nationwide as it is in parts of Nevada. The State can and should regulate it, conduct testing etc. It is an interesting issue to ponder because some people see it as exploitation of women. I don't see it that way.
    Oh, of course it could/should be regaulated.

    I wonder tho, with the newfound Federal powers on compulsion, could a future Federal Government compel individuals to buy whores? Like Universal "Lighten Up and ****" Care?

    Cause honestly, I think that policy would do a hell of lot more good to the American frigid puritanical mindset than Universal Heathcare ever could.

    Universal **** Care. Winner.

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    I don't see a huge difference between prostitution and pornography. Other than one industry is highly regulated, the other is not.
    Last edited by 21st Amendment; 12-07-2012 at 05:15 PM.

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    Why is Abortion legal, or more like downright demanded, but I still can't sell a kidney? Its in MY body, right? Its just a "cluster of cells", right? There isn't even any special rooms in the hospitals with teams of staff tasked with keeping kidneys "alive"....

    So whats the deal?

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    If abortion is ok, so should prostition be. And streetwalkers should be allowed just as much as call girls. Why not. You have hot dog stands as well as 5 star restaurants. Gay prostitution should also be allowed. No discrimination.
    Polygamy - ok. Triads seem like fun as well as group marriage sharing.
    Not sure where the rules should end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    Just curious, how can one support abortion rights (my body, my choice, state has no right to decide for me what she does with her body, etc) but NOT equally support the right of women to choose to engage in sex for money, i.e. prostitution?

    In both cases, it's is 100% use of a womans body, made by the woman in question.

    What would then be the rational argument by a Pro-Choice Supporter AGAINTS legalization of prostitution as a protected federal right, same as abortion?
    I do not believe a rational argument can be made.


    However the belief i that abortion is "empowering" to women, and prostitution is "degrading". Why? Well you shouldn't have to ask, you should just know. Ask why about these things too often and you might be sexist, or even getting ready to wage a war against all women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    Just curious, how can one support abortion rights (my body, my choice, state has no right to decide for me what she does with her body, etc) but NOT equally support the right of women to choose to engage in sex for money, i.e. prostitution?

    In both cases, it's is 100% use of a womans body, made by the woman in question.

    What would then be the rational argument by a Pro-Choice Supporter AGAINTS legalization of prostitution as a protected federal right, same as abortion?
    Why do you create issues that don't exist?

    What Pro-Choice people are against legalizing prostitution?

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    I support both being legal.

    Whats more perplexing is being anti-abortion but also anti-Education, welfare, federal funding for birth control sex education condom distribution etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2 View Post
    Why do you create issues that don't exist?

    What Pro-Choice people are against legalizing prostitution?
    The prohibition of prostitution in this country is the same as the $1 trillion prohibition on drugs - both spurred and supported by supposed "small government" conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detjetsfan View Post
    The prohibition of prostitution in this country is the same as the $1 trillion prohibition on drugs - both spurred and supported by supposed "small government" conservatives.
    Huh?

    The prohibition is supported be elected Democrats and Republicans, not "small Government" conservatives, i.e. Libertarians.

    Libertarians are for decriminalized drugs and legal hookers, and less Govt. telling us what we can do to/with ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    Huh?

    The prohibition is supported be elected Democrats and Republicans, not "small Government" conservatives, i.e. Libertarians.

    Libertarians are for decriminalized drugs and legal hookers, and less Govt. telling us what we can do to/with ourselves.
    Libertarians have their own party. Want to be a libertarian? Be a Libertarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    Just curious, how can one support abortion rights (my body, my choice, state has no right to decide for me what she does with her body, etc) but NOT equally support the right of women to choose to engage in sex for money, i.e. prostitution?

    In both cases, it's is 100% use of a womans body, made by the woman in question.

    What would then be the rational argument by a Pro-Choice Supporter AGAINTS legalization of prostitution as a protected federal right, same as abortion?
    Its a fair question to ask. I would argue that the former is a personal issue whereas the latter deals with the legality of an enterprise and its affects.

    By the way, another interesting question that I ask is this; how can one be against abortion (respect life) yet support leaders that show an utter contempt for life with their policies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet_Engine1 View Post
    Why is Abortion legal, or more like downright demanded, but I still can't sell a kidney? Its in MY body, right? Its just a "cluster of cells", right? There isn't even any special rooms in the hospitals with teams of staff tasked with keeping kidneys "alive"....

    So whats the deal?
    Is your kidney going to grow up to be a felon and welfare recipient?

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    Its a fair question to ask. I would argue that the former is a personal issue whereas the latter deals with the legality of an enterprise and its affects.
    Last I checked, abortion wasn't self-administered (i.e. it is also an enterprise) and it also has a myriad of effects both physical and mental and (to many) moral as well.

    By the way, another interesting question that I ask is this; how can one be against abortion (respect life) yet support leaders that show an utter contempt for life with their policies?
    Far too open ended and poorly defined a question. "contempt for life" is a emotional/political phrase, it's not a phrase with any actual concrete meaning or quantifyabllity. I.e. what you call contempt, others would not, what you call acceptable, others would not.

    Better to couch an argument is very specific terms and arguments.

    Like mine. Abortion is legal. On the principles that allow it to be legal, how can prostitution be illegal? As wthe thread shows thus far, it seems to be a very selective case under the law of "my body" mattering as an argument, and how/what enterprises are permitted to interact with "my body" as a legal profession under law.

    You can **** for money, if someone video tapes it.

    You can kill your fetus.

    But you cannot simply **** for money if there are no witnesses.

    Seems very questionable a limitation IMO, given the legallity of the other two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    Last I checked, abortion wasn't self-administered (i.e. it is also an enterprise) and it also has a myriad of effects both physical and mental and (to many) moral as well.



    Far too open ended and poorly defined a question. "contempt for life" is a emotional/political phrase, it's not a phrase with any actual concrete meaning or quantifyabllity. I.e. what you call contempt, others would not, what you call acceptable, others would not.

    Better to couch an argument is very specific terms and arguments.

    Like mine. Abortion is legal. On the principles that allow it to be legal, how can prostitution be illegal? As wthe thread shows thus far, it seems to be a very selective case under the law of "my body" mattering as an argument, and how/what enterprises are permitted to interact with "my body" as a legal profession under law.

    You can **** for money, if someone video tapes it.

    You can kill your fetus.

    But you cannot simply **** for money if there are no witnesses.

    Seems very questionable a limitation IMO, given the legallity of the other two.
    this is the silliest comparison. The 2 are not related whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post
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    Can't get it with out paying for it huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanPatsFan View Post
    Can't get it with out paying for it huh?
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