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    still does not change the fact the mcsucks cant play and woodhead is not an everydown back. This staff does not know how to use him or mcknight. of the two I would rather have mcknight if used properly

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    In my opinion, it's not so much that we let the little guy go, but the reason why and how it reflects on player development philosophy. FO, HC, and Fans have put too much stock in picking up big names without regard for chemistry, depth, scheme. It got them to the championship game two years in a row, but look at the team now. Whoever is the new GM, I hope he brings a more patient approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdJETSetter View Post
    He was merely a new Hot Wheels car for Brady for a season.

    He sux now.
    You obviously haven't watched any Patriot games this year but keep repeating that as denial is cheaper than therapy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rammagen View Post
    still does not change the fact the mcsucks cant play and woodhead is not an everydown back. This staff does not know how to use him or mcknight. of the two I would rather have mcknight if used properly
    I agree about him not being an every down back, but not because of lack of skill. I just don't think his body could take the pounding.

    But it's not about that. It's about a couple of jabronis saying he sucks or is a very minor roleplayer (when he clearly is a lot more than that) because such a well-run organization like the Jets cut him loose and he found success with a bitter rival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixit View Post
    I agree about him not being an every down back, but not because of lack of skill. I just don't think his body could take the pounding.

    But it's not about that. It's about a couple of jabronis saying he sucks or is a very minor roleplayer (when he clearly is a lot more than that) because such a well-run organization like the Jets cut him loose and he found success with a bitter rival.
    I think we cut him for Clowney to stay on the roster. Obviously that was a miscalculation of the largest kind. He ran for 240 yards in a preseason game. That alone should have open up some eyes. He can run and he can catch. We just blew it on Woodhead. The pats like mix things up with change of pace players especially when the Defense is tired. Woodhead running for 15 yards in the 4th quarter in the no huddle does just that

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    Yeah, teams are built by having 22 well rounded players that do everything about their jobs equally well.

    It is great when you have a Marshal Faulk, AD, Forte,Gore etc guys that can run inside, outside and catch the ball. But God only made so many. The rest of the teams have to get by having multiple players that can do at least one or two of the things well.

    Ridley runs inside and outside, Vereen runs outside and catches the ball in the flat, Woodhead runs inside and catches the ball with screens.

    NFL football is a game being played by specialists. The jets let Woodhead go because they invested a lot McKnight. (Washington trade pick plus) At the time the Jets were deep at RB and had other players that that could do the jobs he does well. From the day that he let him go, Rex was torn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixit View Post
    Woodhead's final stats:

    76 carries/301 yards/4.0 per/19 first downs/4 touchdowns
    40 receptions/446 yards/11.2 per/25 first downs/3 touchdowns
    And lots of clutch plays.

    Best. Very minor. Roleplayer. Ever.

    Thanks, Jets!
    The key stat is first downs. That's what he's there for...3rd down back. He's the replacement for Kevin Faulk who made his living doing what Woodhead is doing.

    More than half his receptions are for first downs. He's got 19 first downs on 76 carries too.

    He's produced 44 first downs for about 500k. Anyone who doesn't think that's productive needs to get a clue.

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    A lot of you are missing the point about Woodhead. He's a 3rd down back. He is good at what he's expected to do. He picks up the blitz, he runs the draw well. Runs the screen well. He can catch.

    He creates matchup problems because you don't know what he'll do. He's the same type of guy Kevin Faulk was. Is he blocking, is he running, is he going out for a pass??? The defense has to account for him and when they do, who covers him? He's too fast for a linebacker. He's so small, they don't see him.

    The biggest thing is he's dependable.

    Is Welker a scrub because he can't stretch the field like Megatron? They are asked to do different things. Woodhead is a good replacement for Faulk.

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    We did not trade Washington,he was signed by Seattle as a free agent. Three page of posts on woodhead, OMG

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenoT View Post
    We did not trade Washington,he was signed by Seattle as a free agent. Three page of posts on woodhead, OMG
    No he was traded for a 5th rd pick. C'mon it was only 4 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patman View Post
    No he was traded for a 5th rd pick. C'mon it was only 4 years ago.
    Correct - we traded Washington (plus a 6th rounder, I think) for a 5th rounder. Then Rex terminated the pick by selecting John Conner. Bleuch.

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    Are you sure Patman.I thought he was asking for too much money to resign coming off that injury, and we let him go????Two of you guys say im wrong, so sorry about that

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    Your right, traded on draft day, 4 years ago!

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    Woodhead is a better RB than we have on our roster. That about sums it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixit View Post
    I agree about him not being an every down back, but not because of lack of skill. I just don't think his body could take the pounding.

    But it's not about that. It's about a couple of jabronis saying he sucks or is a very minor roleplayer (when he clearly is a lot more than that) because such a well-run organization like the Jets cut him loose and he found success with a bitter rival.
    Mcsucks is the qb, I liked woodhead but here they let him go for mcknighT my issue is they do not know how to use either of them

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    Woodhead also gives them versatility and does thing well other backs don't.

    When the Patriots were getting smashed by the 49'ers, I watched them just up and change their game plan, put it in Brady's hands, and Brady started going after Woodhead and 5 minutes later the game was tied.

    He's become their new Kevin Faulk. When it's third down and long, or the next play is just really important, they seem to go to Woodhead.

    Woodhead to me is just one of a hundred other examples of why Belichick > Rex

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    Anyone that just dismisses the loss of Woodhead is a poor GM. The idea is to build a team from top to bottom with useful players. One of the best orgs in the league found a way to make the guy a very vlauable 2nd tier player. the Jets did not.

    Funny how the jets can't pass to a back out of the back field to save their lives. It was far from the biggest blunder of this regime but i was a blunder and moves are like a financial balance sheet. Good moves gives you a credit, poor moves a debit. At the end of a year or series of years you add them up and find out if you have a good front office or a poor one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post

    Funny how the jets can't pass to a back out of the back field to save their lives. It was far from the biggest blunder of this regime but i was a blunder and moves are like a financial balance sheet. Good moves gives you a credit, poor moves a debit. At the end of a year or series of years you add them up and find out if you have a good front office or a poor one.
    I feel like much of that is on Sanchez...everytime he throws it to the flat it seems destined to be tipped, or intercepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan789 View Post
    I feel like much of that is on Sanchez...everytime he throws it to the flat it seems destined to be tipped, or intercepted.
    You're correct to some degree. But how many times did you see Sanchez throw a dump off pass to see it bounce off the hands of the receiver and fall to the ground?

    His short game would have improved greatly if he had Woodhead still on the team to pass to situationally. It would have also cut down on the turnovers to have someone he could rely on to get the first down. Remember too, he's a RB first, not a WR. He's elusive, quick, and runs smart, reading defenses quite well. Jets could have used a guy like that, especially one that works for cheap.


    Edit: I would have also thought Woody would have seen the benefit of the marketing tie in to have an actual Hobbit on the roster.
    Last edited by GuidoYaztremski; 01-01-2013 at 05:04 PM.

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    I would say Woodhead is just a product of the system. They have the ability to plug players in and they succeed.

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