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    2 districts cancel school; teachers likely going to right-to-work protest

    Oh the irony!

    http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20...-be-protesting

    WARREN, Mich. (WJBK) -- A Warren high school will be dark Tuesday because the district is canceling classes. It's the same story in Taylor. This issue? Not enough teachers are coming into work. Many of them are most likely headed to Lansing to protest.

    "My daughter actually called me right when she got out of school at three o'clock today and they were thrilled," said Carol Stevens.

    "I understand their position, but this is a bad move. It's a bad move politically," said "Dale", a Warren father.

    Warren Consolidated Schools is treating Tuesday like a snow day, but snow isn't what is canceling classes. It's the lack of teachers.

    "The school denied having any knowledge that the teachers were going to protest. They say well there's been massive sick out. We don't know what the teachers are doing," Dale said.

    Thousands are expected to descend on the state Capitol Tuesday to protest the explosive right-to-work bill. Teachers' unions are urging their members to join them in Lansing and it appears teachers in Warren and Taylor are heading the call.

    However, Stevens said canceling a day of school could have a negative impact on her son.

    "My son had a diving meet tomorrow and they're not having it now. I don't know how they're going to reschedule it," she said.

    "Show the parents and the legislators and the politicians that you are serious about the children's education, that you're committed to the children, that you're not in it just for a paycheck," said Dale.

    However, many teachers say that is exactly what they're trying to do.

    "I'm for the teachers, so if the teachers need to do this, I'm a teacher myself, so they need to do it," Stevens said.

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    No one should ever be forced to join a Union against their will, or pay dues to a Union they did not choose to join.

    With that said, no non-member should recieve the special benefits and protections provided by a Union they are not a member of. They should be forced to negotiate their own salary or benefits, or take whats offered, like most non-Union workers.

    And no employer should ever be legally required/mandated to hire specificly Union or Non-Union workers by the State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    No one should ever be forced to join a Union against their will, or pay dues to a Union they did not choose to join.

    With that said, no non-member should recieve the special benefits and protections provided by a Union they are not a member of. They should be forced to negotiate their own salary or benefits, or take whats offered, like most non-Union workers.

    And no employer should ever be legally required/mandated to hire specificly Union or Non-Union workers by the State.
    Amen to all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    No one should ever be forced to join a Union against their will, or pay dues to a Union they did not choose to join.
    Why should employers not be allowed to exclusively hire union workers, or mandate membership of a union to be a prerequisite to employment?

    I have no problem whatsoever with private company's choosing to deal with unions. That said i don't believe union workers should be protected against being fired in the case of a labor strike

    I think both parties should draw a distinction between public and private unions. While i think "right to work" as it affects and restricts private business is wrong, i also think the federal, state and local governments have no business dealing with unions in any capacity. Government officials represent the will of the people. Union workers are a part of the people that chooses their representative. Just looking at this at the most macro level is seems obvious that you should not be able to vote for who you'd like to negotiate your salary with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axil View Post
    Why should employers not be allowed to exclusively hire union workers, or mandate membership of a union to be a prerequisite to employment?
    Please re-read what was written.

    Employers should not be mandated =/= Employers choosing to mandate.

    If an employer chooses to hire all Union aor all Non-Union, the employee is not forced to join a Union to engage in that trade. He can leave, and work elsewhere for a different employer.

    While i think "right to work" as it affects and restricts private business
    How so specificly?

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    Just like in Wisconsin.

    But now in Michigan.

    More proof that conservative Republicans are more competent at the local-state level of government than Democrats. It should be the Republican Party's goal to win control of as many state legislatures, state attorneys general, and state governorships as possible.

    They should keep each state individually part of a fifty state organization of Republican office holders in every elected position possible.

    It's the Republicans natural strength and the Democrats natural weakness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    Please re-read what was written.

    Employers should not be mandated =/= Employers choosing to mandate.

    If an employer chooses to hire all Union aor all Non-Union, the employee is not forced to join a Union to engage in that trade. He can leave, and work elsewhere for a different employer.



    How so specificly?
    Right to work laws forbid employers requiring union membership, and collecting required union dues on behalf of said union.

    read Right To Work

    And

    Union Security Agreement


    Let's look at the butcher's union in NJ. If you want to work for Shoprite as a butcher in NJ, you have to join the butcher's union. Shoprite will automatically deduct your union dues from your paycheck. This isn't a state law, this is what has been negotiated between Shoprite and the butcher's union in NJ. "Right to Work" laws prohibit such an arrangement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axil View Post
    Right to work laws....
    I wasn't citing existing Right to Work laws.

    I was opining on how it "should be", in base ideals.

    As I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    I wasn't citing existing Right to Work laws.

    I was opining on how it "should be", in base ideals.

    As I see it.
    Ah. My mistake then.

    We seem to be in agreement.

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    Send them a pink slip!

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