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    anyone who says he just always sucked isn't being honest.

    there were plenty of flashes in the beginning, especially in 2010 with a few come from behind wins, and especially the playoff runs (6 games - 60% completion 9TD 3INT 94 passer rating).

    he was very inconsistent the first 2 years. but always showed potential. then year 3 he leveled off, and got worse at the end of the season. and this year looks like complete garbage.

    he definitely got worse. i think he is just a completely overwhelmed and just isn't that smart. he has a lot of the physical tools. but once things starting going bad, he couldn't bounce back. and lost everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loluchka80 View Post
    anyone who says he just always sucked isn't being honest.

    there were plenty of flashes in the beginning, especially in 2010 with a few come from behind wins, and especially the playoff runs (6 games - 60% completion 9TD 3INT 94 passer rating).

    he was very inconsistent the first 2 years. but always showed potential. then year 3 he leveled off, and got worse at the end of the season. and this year looks like complete garbage.

    he definitely got worse. i think he is just a completely overwhelmed and just isn't that smart. he has a lot of the physical tools. but once things starting going bad, he couldn't bounce back. and lost everything.
    he was never an accurate qb, his completion percentage was always low. this and the turnovers.

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    October 2, 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loluchka80 View Post
    anyone who says he just always sucked isn't being honest.

    there were plenty of flashes in the beginning, especially in 2010 with a few come from behind wins, and especially the playoff runs (6 games - 60% completion 9TD 3INT 94 passer rating).

    he was very inconsistent the first 2 years. but always showed potential. then year 3 he leveled off, and got worse at the end of the season. and this year looks like complete garbage.

    he definitely got worse. i think he is just a completely overwhelmed and just isn't that smart. he has a lot of the physical tools. but once things starting going bad, he couldn't bounce back. and lost everything.
    Here are sanchez's yardage numbers for his amazing playoff wins

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    194

    Safe to say we overrated a few performances as never once throwing for 200 yards is not a good thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    Here are sanchez's yardage numbers for his amazing playoff wins

    182

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    194

    Safe to say we overrated a few performances as never once throwing for 200 yards is not a good thing
    no one is saying he was amazing. but people in this thread are saying he's been as bad he has been this season all 4 years. i'm just saying he was better in year 2 than he is now. he's terrible now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manchez View Post
    Extremely raw talent handed over to clueless idiots to "mold" him into an NFL QB...

    Offensive skill positions changed over every year with diminishing talent

    Dumb OC replaced with Dumber OC

    HC who doesn't know or care anything about offense

    Running game declines every year

    Absolutely no WR talent or TE talent this year

    QB absolutely loses all confidence due to circumstances above, or maybe never had the talent to be good anyway. No one really knows with any degree of certainty, but taken into account all the problems above sure aren't conducive to grooming a young raw QB with limited college experience....
    This 100%

    And it is a DISGRACE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmeyer52 View Post
    How does a QB go from taking the team to the playoffs to looking completely lost and making mistakes that even rookies wouldn't make ? Is the curse still with this team ?
    Sanchez had ugly play his 1st year he just road a very talented team. The fact that we have had thin drafts the last 5 years or so has just thinned out that talent. Edwards is right he is still the same QB he was 2 years ago. That is the problem. Shotty hid some of his lack of talent and when we actually asked him to make plays he just couldn't.

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    Fakes handoff to nobody, turns, runs into RG's a$s and flips ball into the air before defense can lay a finger on him. 6 pts Patriots.

    I don't even care why anymore. We're way past pointing fingers or hoping for improvement.

    So GTFOff the team Sanchez.

    And take Rex Ryan and the rest of the brain trust with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    Here are sanchez's yardage numbers for his amazing playoff wins

    182

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    189

    194

    Safe to say we overrated a few performances as never once throwing for 200 yards is not a good thing
    You might be taking these games out of context. Strategy was to GnP and keep the other QB's off the field. What is his combined rating? Did he make any big throws (3rd down etc),Anyway here is his two losses.
    2009
    Sanchez 17/30, 257yds, 2TD , 1 INT
    Manning 26/39, 377yds, 3TD, 0 INT

    2010
    Sanchez 20/33, 233yds, 2 TD, 0 INT
    BenRoth 10/19, 133yds, 0 TD, 2 INT .... really haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    Here are sanchez's yardage numbers for his amazing playoff wins

    182

    100

    189

    194

    Safe to say we overrated a few performances as never once throwing for 200 yards is not a good thing
    Here's the passing stats from Elways 2 Bowl wins..123 206 Granted Sanchez sucks but stats can be misleading..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LockeJET View Post
    Jets made back to back championship games and lost both. The team realized that in order to get to the next level their QB had to carry more of the load. As they asked the QB to do more he shat the bed.

    He sucked then, he just sucks more now.
    This is exactly right. Bottom line the Jets eased him into his role in years one and two and in the past two years he was asked to earn his heffty paycheck.

    He's simply making more mistakes now because he's being asked to do more.

    The Jets staff did NOT ruin him, Tebow didn't ruin him ...He's just NOT good, never was going to be good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by loluchka80 View Post
    no one is saying he was amazing. but people in this thread are saying he's been as bad he has been this season all 4 years. i'm just saying he was better in year 2 than he is now. he's terrible now.
    Yep. People seem to forget the number of 4th qtr comeback wins he directed his first 2 seasons, including at Indy in the '10 playoffs.

    He's been destroyed by this pathetic organization

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    Quote Originally Posted by loluchka80 View Post
    i'm just saying he was better in year 2 than he is now.
    I agree he has regressed, but that doesn't mean he was good in year 2. He flashed at very opportune times, which inflated his status among fans and gave the illusion that he would continue to develop into a good quarterback.

    The flashes have disappeared as the team around him has become weaker. He can't elevate his own play or the play of others around him. We're left with an inaccurate turnover machine who doesn't see the field well.

    He went from being completely inconsistent to consistently bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Yep. People seem to forget the number of 4th qtr comeback wins he directed his first 2 seasons, including at Indy in the '10 playoffs.

    He's been exposed by this pathetic organization
    IFYP

    sanchez was ok with a great supporting offensive cast, esp. a great o-line. as the talent around him disappeared, we see what he's able to do to make up the difference. there's just too many forced throws, too many fumbles, too many sacks taken, too many throws off target and too many 3 and outs. against tennessee, sanchez was under a rush and tried to dump it off to greene, who was open about 6 yards away. sanchez threw it way over his head. gruden said that's a pass you have to make. he's right. that's a basic throw. you're under a rush, you dump it off to an open rb. sanchez can't make those throws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parafly View Post
    I agree he has regressed, but that doesn't mean he was good in year 2. He flashed at very opportune times, which inflated his status among fans and gave the illusion that he would continue to develop into a good quarterback.

    The flashes have disappeared as the team around him has become weaker. He can't elevate his own play or the play of others around him. We're left with an inaccurate turnover machine who doesn't see the field well.

    He went from being completely inconsistent to consistently bad.
    so true. everyone, including myself, said all he needs to do is become more consistent. well, he did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by augustiniak View Post
    IFYP

    sanchez was ok with a great supporting offensive cast, esp. a great o-line. as the talent around him disappeared, we see what he's able to do to make up the difference. there's just too many forced throws, too many fumbles, too many sacks taken, too many throws off target and too many 3 and outs. against tennessee, sanchez was under a rush and tried to dump it off to greene, who was open about 6 yards away. sanchez threw it way over his head. gruden said that's a pass you have to make. he's right. that's a basic throw. you're under a rush, you dump it off to an open rb. sanchez can't make those throws.
    No **** that's a pass you have to make. Pretty good chance he made that throw in '10. He's a basket case now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    No **** that's a pass you have to make. Pretty good chance he made that throw in '10. He's a basket case now.
    LT was catching that ball. Sometimes the other players need to make some plays!
    Anyway watch that Greene play again. He jumped a lot higher than he needed to and actually made a decent throw look bad. Check it out, his hands were above the point of contact with the ball. he needs to be replaced or at least have someone in there that can catch on passing downs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJets View Post
    LT was catching that ball. Sometimes the other players need to make some plays!
    Anyway watch that Greene play again. He jumped a lot higher than he needed to and actually made a decent throw look bad. Check it out, his hands were above the point of contact with the ball. he needs to be replaced or at least have someone in there that can catch on passing downs.
    it's not just that pass. it's most of his passes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sackdance View Post
    Fakes handoff to nobody, turns, runs into RG's a$s and flips ball into the air before defense can lay a finger on him. 6 pts Patriots.

    I don't even care why anymore. We're way past pointing fingers or hoping for improvement.

    So GTFOff the team Sanchez.

    And take Rex Ryan and the rest of the brain trust with you.
    +1

    Maybe the coaching staff screwed him up or maybe Sanchez was just never that good to begin with.

    Who gives a sh*t?

    The bottom line is that the kid is terrible and we need to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelioion View Post
    This is exactly right. Bottom line the Jets eased him into his role in years one and two and in the past two years he was asked to earn his heffty paycheck.

    He's simply making more mistakes now because he's being asked to do more.

    The Jets staff did NOT ruin him, Tebow didn't ruin him ...He's just NOT good, never was going to be good...
    I'm not disagreeing with your point, but can you honestly say the transition from year 1 and 2 smoothly built it's way up to year 3?

    I distinctly remember Rex more or less saying, okay we're going to throw this year, no more ground & pound.

    And then a few weeks later he said, we're going back to the ground and pound.

    You need to crawl before you can walk. And walk before you run. They asked Sanchez to go from crawling to running. It wasn't smooth whatsoever.

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