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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan1983 View Post
    People should actually look at their drafts... Outside of JPP ( who still amazes me that he turned out good) they really have drafted poorly.

    2012
    1 32 David Wilson RB Virginia Tech - Running backs in the first round are just bad ideas
    2 63 Rueben Randle WR LSU - Bleh receiver, lacks speed
    3 94 Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech - OK player, thought he was a decent pick
    4 127 Adrien Robinson TE Cincinnati - Incomplete
    4 131 Brandon Mosley T Auburn - Inc.
    6 201 Matt McCants T Alabama-Birmingham - Inc.
    7 239 Markus Kuhn DT North Carolina State Inc.

    2011
    1 19 Prince Amukamara DB Nebraska - Always hurt, and not very good when playing
    2 52 Marvin Austin DT North Carolina - Guaranteed bust, hasn't done much
    3 83 Jerrel Jernigan WR Troy - Done very little on a team who had a lot of injuries
    4 117 James Brewer T Indiana - I liked this pick but he was inactive on a team with a bad offensive line
    6 185 Greg Jones LB Michigan State - Bust
    6 198 Tyler Sash DB Iowa - Done very little other than being suspended for Aderall
    6 202 Jacquian Williams LB South Florida - Had some production, but many guys can put up some tackles at LB
    7 221 Da'Rel Scott RB Maryland - Not a factor

    2010 - NEW YORK GIANTS
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
    1 15 Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida - Still amazed he turned into a player. Not even the best player at USF
    2 46 Linval Joseph DT East Carolina - Ordinary player
    4 115 Phillip Dillard LB Nebraska - Nothing
    5 147 Mitch Petrus G Arkansas - Nothing
    6 184 Adrian Tracy LB William & Mary - Nothing
    7 221 Matt Dodge P East Carolina - Nothing

    2009 - NEW YORK GIANTS
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
    1 29 Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina - Nice pick although injuries have really hurt him
    2 45 Clint Sintim LB Virginia - Bust
    2 60 William Beatty T Connecticut - Nice pick, although an offensive lineman for a bad offensive line
    3 85 Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly-S.L.O. - Average player
    3 100 Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin - No significant contribution
    4 129 Andre Brown RB North Carolina State - Looked good in a few games this past year
    5 151 Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State - Nothing
    6 200 DeAndre Wright CB New Mexico - Nothing
    7 238 Stoney Woodson CB South Carolina- Nothing

    2008 - NEW YORK GIANTS
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
    1 31 Kenny Phillips FS Miami (Fla.) - Continuously injured in a secondary that sucks
    2 63 Terrell Thomas CB USC - Multiple ACL injuries, although it really looked like he would turn into something
    3 95 Mario Manningham WR Michigan - OK 3rd or 4th receiver now off the team
    4 123 Bryan Kehl OLB Brigham Young - Nothing
    5 165 Jonathan Goff LB Vanderbilt - Next to nothing
    6 198 Andre Woodson QB Kentucky - Nothing
    6 199 Robert Henderson DE Southern Mississippi - Nothing

    You are being really hard on some players. Goff has played a critical role when others are injured. Beckum had some nice pass catching contributions. Sash and Greg jones have played decently when called upon.

    Sure they don't hit on every single pick but taking round into consoderation, they gwt great depth. This would save us from having to trot out inbreds like eric smith or leaguewide refuse like Clyde gates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan1983 View Post
    People should actually look at their drafts... Outside of JPP ( who still amazes me that he turned out good) they really have drafted poorly.

    2012
    1 32 David Wilson RB Virginia Tech - Running backs in the first round are just bad ideas. He is explosive however. Gonna be interesting to see if he ever learns to hold onto the ball. Never did in college.
    2 63 Rueben Randle WR LSU - Bleh receiver, lacks speed
    3 94 Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech - OK player, thought he was a decent pick
    4 127 Adrien Robinson TE Cincinnati - Incomplete
    4 131 Brandon Mosley T Auburn - Inc.
    6 201 Matt McCants T Alabama-Birmingham - Inc.
    7 239 Markus Kuhn DT North Carolina State Inc.

    2011
    1 19 Prince Amukamara DB Nebraska - Always hurt, and not very good when playing
    2 52 Marvin Austin DT North Carolina - Guaranteed bust, hasn't done much
    3 83 Jerrel Jernigan WR Troy - Done very little on a team who had a lot of injuries
    4 117 James Brewer T Indiana - I liked this pick but he was inactive on a team with a bad offensive line
    6 185 Greg Jones LB Michigan State - Bust
    6 198 Tyler Sash DB Iowa - Done very little other than being suspended for Aderall
    6 202 Jacquian Williams LB South Florida - Had some production, but many guys can put up some tackles at LB
    7 221 Da'Rel Scott RB Maryland - Not a factor

    2010 - NEW YORK GIANTS
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
    1 15 Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida - Still amazed he turned into a player. Not even the best player at USF
    2 46 Linval Joseph DT East Carolina - Ordinary player
    4 115 Phillip Dillard LB Nebraska - Nothing
    5 147 Mitch Petrus G Arkansas - Nothing
    6 184 Adrian Tracy LB William & Mary - Nothing
    7 221 Matt Dodge P East Carolina - Nothing

    2009 - NEW YORK GIANTS
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
    1 29 Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina - Nice pick although injuries have really hurt him
    2 45 Clint Sintim LB Virginia - Bust
    2 60 William Beatty T Connecticut - Nice pick, although an offensive lineman for a bad offensive line
    3 85 Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly-S.L.O. - Average player
    3 100 Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin - No significant contribution
    4 129 Andre Brown RB North Carolina State - Looked good in a few games this past year
    5 151 Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State - Nothing
    6 200 DeAndre Wright CB New Mexico - Nothing
    7 238 Stoney Woodson CB South Carolina- Nothing

    2008 - NEW YORK GIANTS
    RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
    1 31 Kenny Phillips FS Miami (Fla.) - Continuously injured in a secondary that sucks
    2 63 Terrell Thomas CB USC - Multiple ACL injuries, although it really looked like he would turn into something
    3 95 Mario Manningham WR Michigan - OK 3rd or 4th receiver now off the team
    4 123 Bryan Kehl OLB Brigham Young - Nothing
    5 165 Jonathan Goff LB Vanderbilt - Next to nothing
    6 198 Andre Woodson QB Kentucky - Nothing
    6 199 Robert Henderson DE Southern Mississippi - Nothing
    +10000.

    The Giants don't have much talent on their roster. They have a good system that has been in place, with an above average QB that they have been committed to from the beginning. They rotate new players in while letting "top tier " free agents go to other teams where they proceed to show how mediocre they are.

    I don't want this guy anywhere near the jets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astoria View Post
    You are being really hard on some players. Goff has played a critical role when others are injured. Beckum had some nice pass catching contributions. Sash and Greg jones have played decently when called upon.

    Sure they don't hit on every single pick but taking round into consoderation, they gwt great depth. This would save us from having to trot out inbreds like eric smith or leaguewide refuse like Clyde gates.
    You really think that is a good drafting record? Those are just honest assesments. When you judge a draft, you have to be absolutely honest.

    Both Goff and Jones are off that team. Essentially the team admitted that the picks weren't very good. Throw in the fact that their defense stinks and it's even worse.


    They win for the same reason just about every other team wins. The QB.

    We are going to hire another GM so please hire someone who's been better drafting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan1983 View Post
    You really think that is a good drafting record? Those are just honest assesments. When you judge a draft, you have to be absolutely honest.

    Both Goff and Jones are off that team. Essentially the team admitted that the picks weren't very good. Throw in the fact that their defense stinks and it's even worse.


    They win for the same reason just about every other team wins. The QB.

    We are going to hire another GM so please hire someone who's been better drafting.
    Add coaching to that and I agree with you

    at least Gamble helped build a roster with just a good headcoach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nike View Post
    woody is buddies with maras and tischs they see him as an adopted red headed step child.
    Sort of like a modern day version of Alger's "Ragged Dick". But with less charisma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan1983 View Post
    People should actually look at their drafts... Outside of JPP ( who still amazes me that he turned out good) they really have drafted poorly.
    good post
    but i would take a look at they do via free agency as well

    mike boley (yes sh*tty character off field)
    keith rivers
    weatherford
    CRUZ!
    etc...

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