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    good article on the tebow being selfish thing

    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/d9dFY?u...m_campaign=nfl



    It has been an important life lesson for Tim Tebow, spending a year at the bottom of the barrel, a year with Rex Ryan and the New York Jets. Ryan and Tebow were never going to be a good mix, like oil and walking-on-water.






    Tebow learned, finally, that sometimes you have to be selfish. It is the only way to survive in this world. Sorry if thatís not the best Christmas message. But Tebow had done everything Ryan had asked all year, bulking up, even playing special teams. He did it without complaint. And when Tebowís time came, and Ryan finally realized that Mark Sanchez canít play quarterback, he still didnít get his turn. Ryan passed over him for some third-string guy.

    Tebow reportedly refused to play in the wildcat offense on Sunday. That doesnít make his good guy bit a fraud. No, it just moves him from 1950s black and white to 2012 reality. From here, Tebow can leave the Jets and continue to be a good guy, but just do it in less of Disney-fied way.

    Look, itís possible that Tebow just canít play football. I donít see it that way, but his last two NFL coaches have. That doesnít excuse the way Ryan treated him.

    Itís pretty simple, really. For all the meaning people have found in Tebow ó Bill Maher thought he represented the evils of the political right ó all he has done is try to be a good person and play football. Thatís it. Two things. But that is too much for football people to grasp. It is such an unusual combination that coaches, GMs and owners canít accept it, donít know what to do with it.

    In Denver, coach John Fox tried to ruin Tebow's career for it. And Ryan just might have succeeded.

    Turns out, Tebow was just too much class for the classless acts of Ryan and Jets offensive coordinator Tony Sparano. He was too much grace for the graceless franchise that is the New York Jets.

    They used Tebow in the most mean-spirited way. No wait, that isnít true. In Denver, it was more mean-spirited. In New York, they never even gave the man one thought. It was only the image they wanted.



    So the Jets smiled nicely at him, told the man they wanted him, paid him well, gave him a helmet and then treated him terribly while trying to benefit from the only thing they wanted: the image. If Tebow had known that thatís all he was there for, he never would have wanted to go to the Jets.

    He wants to play football.

    People might not see it as class that Tebow wouldnít play the wildcat this past Sunday. But Ryan has never once been there for him. His time in New York is up. There was no need to prolong this, not after what happened last week.

    In Denver, Fox inherited Tebow, and never wanted him. But with fans Tebowing all over the place, and demanding to see Tebow, Fox finally gave in. It was not because he thought Tebow could help the Broncos win. It was because Tebow had become a hindrance in the rebuilding, a distraction.

    Fox played Tebow only to prove something to fans who thought of him as Football Jesus. He wanted them to know that Tebow canít play. So Fox called all the wrong plays, and short, precise passes for Tebow, things he is especially not good at. And when Tebow started winning, ultimately leading the Broncos to the playoffs, it was a nightmare for Fox and John Elway.

    The Tebowmania just kept growing. Elway dumped him anyway, and covered his tracks by signing Peyton Manning. And the Broncos are Super Bowl contenders now.

    The Jets saw too many things in Tebowmania. Not Tebow, just the mania. The Giants had won the Super Bowl, while the Jets had become the new Bronx Zoo. The Jets wanted to class up the place a little, and get some of the attention from the other side of town.





    He was used. Paid well, but used.

    Thatís not to say he can play at the NFL level. He has been given one chance, and he won with it. He has proven to be a leader, without fitting the paradigm. But his coaches just donít think he can do it. Elway might have proved his point with Manning, though it took one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time to make that point.

    But nothing would have been lost by going to Tebow this past Sunday, when third-string guy, Greg McElroy, didnít look any better than Sanchez, and the Jets lost again.

    I think Ryan was afraid of the man, actually. What if Tebow had done it again, started winning despite the inability to throw a precise pass? It would have made Ryan look all the more inept for sticking with Sanchez the whole season.

    What a mess. Theoretically, someone from the Jets had scouted Tebow, thought he had what it took to play quarterback, right?


    Hah! That was never part of the equation. So Tebow moves on now, after one more week with the Jets. Heíll likely end up in Jacksonville, where he probably should have gone for this year. Hereís hoping Jacksonville sees him as a man and not a stunt or political statement.

    After his college greatness at Florida, though, you wonder what theyíll see him as, football player or incredible ticket-seller. Fans there will pressure coaches more than they did in Denver.

    At least Tebow knows what to watch for. He is learning.

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    He still sucks at throwing the ball.

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    Bleacher Report article by a Tebow fan. He's a nice guy but the Jets didn't treat him poorly because he had "too much class."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucrenegade View Post
    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/d9dFY?u...m_campaign=nfl



    It has been an important life lesson for Tim Tebow, spending a year at the bottom of the barrel, a year with Rex Ryan and the New York Jets. Ryan and Tebow were never going to be a good mix, like oil and walking-on-water.






    Tebow learned, finally, that sometimes you have to be selfish. It is the only way to survive in this world. Sorry if that’s not the best Christmas message. But Tebow had done everything Ryan had asked all year, bulking up, even playing special teams. He did it without complaint. And when Tebow’s time came, and Ryan finally realized that Mark Sanchez can’t play quarterback, he still didn’t get his turn. Ryan passed over him for some third-string guy.

    Tebow reportedly refused to play in the wildcat offense on Sunday. That doesn’t make his good guy bit a fraud. No, it just moves him from 1950s black and white to 2012 reality. From here, Tebow can leave the Jets and continue to be a good guy, but just do it in less of Disney-fied way.

    Look, it’s possible that Tebow just can’t play football. I don’t see it that way, but his last two NFL coaches have. That doesn’t excuse the way Ryan treated him.

    It’s pretty simple, really. For all the meaning people have found in Tebow — Bill Maher thought he represented the evils of the political right — all he has done is try to be a good person and play football. That’s it. Two things. But that is too much for football people to grasp. It is such an unusual combination that coaches, GMs and owners can’t accept it, don’t know what to do with it.

    In Denver, coach John Fox tried to ruin Tebow's career for it. And Ryan just might have succeeded.

    Turns out, Tebow was just too much class for the classless acts of Ryan and Jets offensive coordinator Tony Sparano. He was too much grace for the graceless franchise that is the New York Jets.

    They used Tebow in the most mean-spirited way. No wait, that isn’t true. In Denver, it was more mean-spirited. In New York, they never even gave the man one thought. It was only the image they wanted.



    So the Jets smiled nicely at him, told the man they wanted him, paid him well, gave him a helmet and then treated him terribly while trying to benefit from the only thing they wanted: the image. If Tebow had known that that’s all he was there for, he never would have wanted to go to the Jets.

    He wants to play football.

    People might not see it as class that Tebow wouldn’t play the wildcat this past Sunday. But Ryan has never once been there for him. His time in New York is up. There was no need to prolong this, not after what happened last week.

    In Denver, Fox inherited Tebow, and never wanted him. But with fans Tebowing all over the place, and demanding to see Tebow, Fox finally gave in. It was not because he thought Tebow could help the Broncos win. It was because Tebow had become a hindrance in the rebuilding, a distraction.

    Fox played Tebow only to prove something to fans who thought of him as Football Jesus. He wanted them to know that Tebow can’t play. So Fox called all the wrong plays, and short, precise passes for Tebow, things he is especially not good at. And when Tebow started winning, ultimately leading the Broncos to the playoffs, it was a nightmare for Fox and John Elway.

    The Tebowmania just kept growing. Elway dumped him anyway, and covered his tracks by signing Peyton Manning. And the Broncos are Super Bowl contenders now.

    The Jets saw too many things in Tebowmania. Not Tebow, just the mania. The Giants had won the Super Bowl, while the Jets had become the new Bronx Zoo. The Jets wanted to class up the place a little, and get some of the attention from the other side of town.





    He was used. Paid well, but used.

    That’s not to say he can play at the NFL level. He has been given one chance, and he won with it. He has proven to be a leader, without fitting the paradigm. But his coaches just don’t think he can do it. Elway might have proved his point with Manning, though it took one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time to make that point.

    But nothing would have been lost by going to Tebow this past Sunday, when third-string guy, Greg McElroy, didn’t look any better than Sanchez, and the Jets lost again.

    I think Ryan was afraid of the man, actually. What if Tebow had done it again, started winning despite the inability to throw a precise pass? It would have made Ryan look all the more inept for sticking with Sanchez the whole season.

    What a mess. Theoretically, someone from the Jets had scouted Tebow, thought he had what it took to play quarterback, right?


    Hah! That was never part of the equation. So Tebow moves on now, after one more week with the Jets. He’ll likely end up in Jacksonville, where he probably should have gone for this year. Here’s hoping Jacksonville sees him as a man and not a stunt or political statement.

    After his college greatness at Florida, though, you wonder what they’ll see him as, football player or incredible ticket-seller. Fans there will pressure coaches more than they did in Denver.

    At least Tebow knows what to watch for. He is learning.
    How is any of this crap a good article?

    Another talking head, trying to defend Tebow who will never be a starting QB in this league, another talking head who has another agenda of pimping a guy whose only claim to fame is his supposed class and how great of a teammate he is, which he just violated, and his religious faith and work off the field, which is undoubtedly highly commendable.

    I'm sick of the complete bull**** that Ryan and the Jets screwed Tebow...

    Really? A guy whose own teammates have been PUBLIC about his performance on the practice field, and how awful they are. There is half the fan base crying for Sanchez to be gone because he's lost the respect of his teammates, how the **** does Tebow get passed over on this very same analysis?

    What a crap article by another Tebow fan, the Jets don't owe Tebow crap.
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    What a biased article. Journalistic crap. Jets don't owe Tebow anything, period.

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    Posting up something from Bleacher Report as a legitimate news article was bannable at one point a few years ago. It has all the integrity of an Incarcerated Bob tweet. All long-time posters know that. But hey, anything to promote an agenda. It's the Christian thing to do.

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    Does the OP know that "bleacher report" is merely a site where fans sign up under different names and then type whatever bullsh-t article they want where they can then bring it to forums like here and act like it's legit?



    BAN THE OP for believing that we're all THAT stupid and gullible.


    Heck, Ban renegade for being so far up Teblow's brown-eye he can see out of his mouth.....

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    No need to.ban renegade...

    He'll be heading to Jagwires.com or some other place with his beloved Timmy on Monday

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    Now Tebow knows how we feel as fans.

    ****ed over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucrenegade View Post
    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/d9dFY?u...m_campaign=nfl



    It has been an important life lesson for Tim Tebow, spending a year at the bottom of the barrel, a year with Rex Ryan and the New York Jets. Ryan and Tebow were never going to be a good mix, like oil and walking-on-water.






    Tebow learned, finally, that sometimes you have to be selfish. It is the only way to survive in this world. Sorry if thatís not the best Christmas message. But Tebow had done everything Ryan had asked all year, bulking up, even playing special teams. He did it without complaint. And when Tebowís time came, and Ryan finally realized that Mark Sanchez canít play quarterback, he still didnít get his turn. Ryan passed over him for some third-string guy.

    Tebow reportedly refused to play in the wildcat offense on Sunday. That doesnít make his good guy bit a fraud. No, it just moves him from 1950s black and white to 2012 reality. From here, Tebow can leave the Jets and continue to be a good guy, but just do it in less of Disney-fied way.

    Look, itís possible that Tebow just canít play football. I donít see it that way, but his last two NFL coaches have. That doesnít excuse the way Ryan treated him.

    Itís pretty simple, really. For all the meaning people have found in Tebow ó Bill Maher thought he represented the evils of the political right ó all he has done is try to be a good person and play football. Thatís it. Two things. But that is too much for football people to grasp. It is such an unusual combination that coaches, GMs and owners canít accept it, donít know what to do with it.

    In Denver, coach John Fox tried to ruin Tebow's career for it. And Ryan just might have succeeded.

    Turns out, Tebow was just too much class for the classless acts of Ryan and Jets offensive coordinator Tony Sparano. He was too much grace for the graceless franchise that is the New York Jets.

    They used Tebow in the most mean-spirited way. No wait, that isnít true. In Denver, it was more mean-spirited. In New York, they never even gave the man one thought. It was only the image they wanted.



    So the Jets smiled nicely at him, told the man they wanted him, paid him well, gave him a helmet and then treated him terribly while trying to benefit from the only thing they wanted: the image. If Tebow had known that thatís all he was there for, he never would have wanted to go to the Jets.

    He wants to play football.

    People might not see it as class that Tebow wouldnít play the wildcat this past Sunday. But Ryan has never once been there for him. His time in New York is up. There was no need to prolong this, not after what happened last week.

    In Denver, Fox inherited Tebow, and never wanted him. But with fans Tebowing all over the place, and demanding to see Tebow, Fox finally gave in. It was not because he thought Tebow could help the Broncos win. It was because Tebow had become a hindrance in the rebuilding, a distraction.

    Fox played Tebow only to prove something to fans who thought of him as Football Jesus. He wanted them to know that Tebow canít play. So Fox called all the wrong plays, and short, precise passes for Tebow, things he is especially not good at. And when Tebow started winning, ultimately leading the Broncos to the playoffs, it was a nightmare for Fox and John Elway.

    The Tebowmania just kept growing. Elway dumped him anyway, and covered his tracks by signing Peyton Manning. And the Broncos are Super Bowl contenders now.

    The Jets saw too many things in Tebowmania. Not Tebow, just the mania. The Giants had won the Super Bowl, while the Jets had become the new Bronx Zoo. The Jets wanted to class up the place a little, and get some of the attention from the other side of town.





    He was used. Paid well, but used.

    Thatís not to say he can play at the NFL level. He has been given one chance, and he won with it. He has proven to be a leader, without fitting the paradigm. But his coaches just donít think he can do it. Elway might have proved his point with Manning, though it took one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time to make that point.

    But nothing would have been lost by going to Tebow this past Sunday, when third-string guy, Greg McElroy, didnít look any better than Sanchez, and the Jets lost again.

    I think Ryan was afraid of the man, actually. What if Tebow had done it again, started winning despite the inability to throw a precise pass? It would have made Ryan look all the more inept for sticking with Sanchez the whole season.

    What a mess. Theoretically, someone from the Jets had scouted Tebow, thought he had what it took to play quarterback, right?


    Hah! That was never part of the equation. So Tebow moves on now, after one more week with the Jets. Heíll likely end up in Jacksonville, where he probably should have gone for this year. Hereís hoping Jacksonville sees him as a man and not a stunt or political statement.

    After his college greatness at Florida, though, you wonder what theyíll see him as, football player or incredible ticket-seller. Fans there will pressure coaches more than they did in Denver.

    At least Tebow knows what to watch for. He is learning.
    No matter how mad, unhappy or how disrespected you feel YOU NEVER QUIT ON YOUR TEAMMATES! That's f*cking teammate 101. The report of him asking to be left out of the wildcat came out Sunday night, it took him 3 days to address it. Well I should say it took his team of handlers 3 days to come up with a good enough excuse for what happened. If he didn't tell Rex that he didn't want to be a part of the wildcat then why did they have Kerley practice in it all week? Why did Tebow have to clarify his comments if he didn't say that to Rex? And what really bothers me is that there are guys like Haynesworth who got lied to about what kind of defense he was going to be playing in just so he would sign in Washington and he got killed for speaking out about not wanting to play for them b/c they lied. Yet Tebow gets a pass from the majority of the media? What a f*cking joke? F*ck Tebow and I can't wait until he is gone and so are all his fake a*s followers who made pretend they were Jets fans all year. You're all a bunch of hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choon328 View Post
    No matter how mad, unhappy or how disrespected you feel YOU NEVER QUIT ON YOUR TEAMMATES! That's f*cking teammate 101. The report of him asking to be left out of the wildcat came out Sunday night, it took him 3 days to address it. Well I should say it took his team of handlers 3 days to come up with a good enough excuse for what happened. If he didn't tell Rex that he didn't want to be a part of the wildcat then why did they have Kerley practice in it all week? Why did Tebow have to clarify his comments if he didn't say that to Rex? And what really bothers me is that there are guys like Haynesworth who got lied to about what kind of defense he was going to be playing in just so he would sign in Washington and he got killed for speaking out about not wanting to play for them b/c they lied. Yet Tebow gets a pass from the majority of the media? What a f*cking joke? F*ck Tebow and I can't wait until he is gone and so are all his fake a*s followers who made pretend they were Jets fans all year. You're all a bunch of hypocrites.
    And you are a jerk

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinniekt View Post
    And you are a jerk
    Better to be a jerk than a lurking troll from 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinniekt View Post
    And you are a jerk
    I may be a jerk but at least I'm right...oh and I'm also something that Tebow isn't, honest.

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    I also really really want to play QB for the Jets! I can't throw a football well, but I'll work really hard and do what the coaches ask of me. Can I play now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpoppy7 View Post
    I also really really want to play QB for the Jets! I can't throw a football well, but I'll work really hard and do what the coaches ask of me. Can I play now?
    Well jPoppy, unlike your scenario, Tebow didn't beg the Jets to trade for him and list him as the active backup QB for nearly the whole season. But I'll play your little game.

    jPoppy, under the following circumstances I can see why you thought you'd be the starting QB. After all, IF:

    If all season long Rex Ryan told you, your teammates, the media and the fans that you're the legitimate #2 QB - and then he benches the #1 QB - you'd be correct to believe you get to start.

    If you were the active #2 QB even with 2 broken ribs, and Coach Ryan told you, your teammates, the media and the fans that he didn't dress McElroy because YOU had gotten the reps that week as #2 QB and knew the plays and McElroy didn't, then YOU are absolutely correct to believe you get to start if #1 QB is sidelined.

    If Coach Ryan tells you, the team, the media and the fans that if #1 QB Sanchez gets hurt YOU will come in to replace him and play the usual traditional offense instead of the wildcat, then you are correct to believe you'd start if #1 is benched.

    I can provide you with links to the press conferences etc where Rex has made these statements and many similar statements over the course of this season.

    Rex Ryan effing lied to Tebow and everyone else until the lie became so obvious that even the most trusting of souls, Tim Tebow, could no longer believe it. Man up and admit it.

    So to answer your original question jPoppy, sure you can play. Rex Ryan totally deserves to have YOU as starting QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaxSuzy View Post
    Well jPoppy, unlike your scenario, Tebow didn't beg the Jets to trade for him and list him as the active backup QB for nearly the whole season. But I'll play your little game.

    jPoppy, under the following circumstances I can see why you thought you'd be the starting QB. After all, IF:

    If all season long Rex Ryan told you, your teammates, the media and the fans that you're the legitimate #2 QB - and then he benches the #1 QB - you'd be correct to believe you get to start.

    If you were the active #2 QB even with 2 broken ribs, and Coach Ryan told you, your teammates, the media and the fans that he didn't dress McElroy because YOU had gotten the reps that week as #2 QB and knew the plays and McElroy didn't, then YOU are absolutely correct to believe you get to start if #1 QB is sidelined.

    If Coach Ryan tells you, the team, the media and the fans that if #1 QB Sanchez gets hurt YOU will come in to replace him and play the usual traditional offense instead of the wildcat, then you are correct to believe you'd start if #1 is benched.

    I can provide you with links to the press conferences etc where Rex has made these statements and many similar statements over the course of this season.

    Rex Ryan effing lied to Tebow and everyone else until the lie became so obvious that even the most trusting of souls, Tim Tebow, could no longer believe it. Man up and admit it.

    So to answer your original question jPoppy, sure you can play. Rex Ryan totally deserves to have YOU as starting QB.
    No matter what was said to Tebow throughout the course of the season quitting on the team is indefensible. That's the bottom line. He's a fraud and a quitter and I am sure that after the season his teammates will make it well known how they felt about that little stunt he pulled last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choon328 View Post
    No matter what was said to Tebow throughout the course of the season quitting on the team is indefensible. That's the bottom line. He's a fraud and a quitter and I am sure that after the season his teammates will make it well known how they felt about that little stunt he pulled last week.
    He didn't quit on the team, and there is no proof that he did. He and Rex Ryan had a private conversation without any witnesses. After all the lies Coach Ryan has told this year, I believe Tebow over him any day. And guess what - I don't have to choose since even Coach Ryan doesn't claim that rumor is true.

    You're riding that pony because you have nothing better to blame for your hatred. Don't get all sanctimonious now and pretend that this make-believe "quitter" rumor is why you hate Tebow. You'd hate him no matter what he does.

    Hey, on another point, how do you feel about John Elway after college when he was the #1 draft pick for the Colts and refused to play for them? He'd never had an NFL game in his life but demanded to be traded. Yeah, I thought so. You'd support him. or any other college draft choice doing that. Imagine if Andrew Luck had done that! Oh sheet, imagine if Tim Tebow had done that! Oh wait, no one can imagine Tebow or Luck being arrogant enough to do that.

    How about you stick to the FACTS next time instead of writing fairy tales.

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    Four days Seven hours until 9AM Monday and time for Poor Widdle Timmy to head to LaGuardia for his flight home to his beloved JaxSuzy and the rest of his adoring cult blinded by adoration to his clear and obvious lack of NFL quarterback ability

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