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    Jets reach out to interview Mark Ross

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    Jets will interview Giants' Ross:

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    If you don't know who he is....he is Jerry Reece's right hand man.He is the one that was high on JPP in the war room.I think this is a money hire
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    If you don't know who he is....he is Jerry Reece's right hand man.He is the one that was high on JPP in the war room.I think this is a money higher.
    Dat typo.

    Anyway, yeah, either Gamble or Ross would be perfect in my book. Get it done Woody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10PennyToColes87 View Post
    Dat typo.

    Anyway, yeah, either Gamble or Ross would be perfect in my book. Get it done Woody.
    Would rather have Gamble

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri_0515 View Post
    Would rather have Gamble

    Would either really sign on with Rex Ryan as the HC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan32 View Post
    Would either really sign on with Rex Ryan as the HC?
    this question will echo during the entire hiring process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan32 View Post
    Would either really sign on with Rex Ryan as the HC?
    Don't know. This is Rex's last chance this year if he's retained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    If you don't know who he is....he is Jerry Reece's right hand man.He is the one that was high on JPP in the war room.I think this is a money hire
    JPP was the VLAD of defensive linemen. He was EXTREMELY raw ... They rolled the dice and won.

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    I'd rather get Gamble if I had my choice but I wouldn't have a problem with Ross. However, another poster brought up the Giants recent draft history, and their drafts haven't been as good as you might think; The only hits in recent years seem to be JPP, Nicks, and Cruz as a UDFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I'd rather get Gamble if I had my choice but I wouldn't have a problem with Ross. However, another poster brought up the Giants recent draft history, and their drafts haven't been as good as you might think; The only hits in recent years seem to be JPP, Nicks, and Cruz as a UDFA.
    I just read that Gamble was on the Jets staff for two years ! Maybe we have an advantage to snag him ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I'd rather get Gamble if I had my choice but I wouldn't have a problem with Ross. However, another poster brought up the Giants recent draft history, and their drafts haven't been as good as you might think; The only hits in recent years seem to be JPP, Nicks, and Cruz as a UDFA.
    JPP was a boom or bust pick. Nicks was picked where most had him going. When I look at the Giants it's all about the DL. Was this guy not part of drafting the current DL?

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    Mark Ross is the guy who for the past 5 Giants drafts was the main guy getting the players,everyone knows that.I think this would be a slam dunk hire and nobody is available who in my opinion is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunnie View Post
    I just read that Gamble was on the Jets staff for two years ! Maybe we have an advantage to snag him ??
    He was with the Jets when Kotite was here for two years.



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    2008
    Rnd Name College Note
    1 Kenny Phillips Miami (Fla.)
    2 Terrell Thomas USC
    3 Mario Manningham Michigan
    4 Bryan Kehl BYU
    5 Jonathan Goff Vanderbilt
    6 Andre Woodson Kentucky
    6 Robert Henderson Southern Miss


    2009
    Rnd Name College Note
    1 Hakeem Nicks North Carolina
    2 Clint Sintim Virginia
    2 William Beatty Connecticut
    3 Travis Beckum Wisconsin
    4 Andre Brown North Carolina State
    5 Rhett Bomar Sam Houston State
    6 DeAndre Wright New Mexico
    7 Stoney Woodson South Carolina

    2010
    Rnd Name College Note
    1 Jason Pierre-Paul South Florida
    2 Linval Joseph East Carolina
    3 Chad Jones LSU
    4 Phillip Dillard Nebraska
    5 Mitch Petrus Arkansas
    6 Adrian Tracy William & Mary
    7 Matt Dodge East Carolina
    2011
    Rnd Name College Note
    1 Prince Amukamara Nebraska
    2 Marvin Austin North Carolina
    3 Jerrel Jernigan Troy
    4 James Brewer Indiana
    6 Greg Jones Michigan State
    6 Tyler Sash Iowa
    6 Jacquian Williams South Florida
    7 Da'Rel Scott Maryland
    2012
    1 32 David Wilson RB Virginia Tech
    2 63 Rueben Randle WR LSU
    3 94 Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech
    4 127 Adrien Robinson TE Cincinnati
    4 131 Brandon Mosley T Auburn
    6 201 Matt McCants T Alabama-Birmingham
    7 239 Markus Kuhn DT North Carolina State

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    This past draft they found Wilson who is a homerun speedstar,Randle who had 2 tds yesterday.They got Kuhn in the 7th who got hurt but played really well at dt,Hosley is there 3rd cb.Mosley got hurt during camp.Robinson is developing.Thee guy knows players at every round that can contribute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    This past draft they found Wilson who is a homerun speedstar,Randle who had 2 tds yesterday.They got Kuhn in the 7th who got hurt but played really well at dt,Hosley is there 3rd cb.Mosley got hurt during camp.Robinson is developing.Thee guy knows players at every round that can contribute.
    Wilson has fumbleitis.

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    Funny thing Wilson would be our biggest weapon by far.Non the less he drafted the Giants best players on both sides besides Eli.Nicks/Jpp are there best players.

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    Giants have select talent in top scout

    By Mike Garafolo/The Star-Ledger
    on April 21, 2008, updated January 07, 2010

    Sitting at a table in a quiet hallway at the Indiana Convention Center two months ago -- safely removed from the meat-market atmosphere of the NFL Scouting Combine -- Marc Ross was, for once, reflecting on the past instead of the future.

    Of course, he did so reluctantly and only after he was repeatedly asked to recount his greatest finds as an NFL scout.

    The first one, which brought a smirk to Ross' face, was easy: Brian Westbrook, whom Ross expected to be dynamic on special teams and as a third-down back but didn't seem likely to turn into the "kill-people, game-plan-for-him" type of player he has been for the Eagles.

    The next one was rather curious, and very telling.

    "Kevin Everett," Ross said, his grin quickly replaced by a somber, blank stare.

    Everett is the former Bills tight end who suffered a severe neck injury and was nearly paralyzed while making a tackle on a kickoff last September. He will never play football again.

    A special-teams contributor who missed his entire rookie season due to a knee injury and then had his career cut short at three years is one of Ross' favorite finds ever?

    "From an off-field standpoint, everything that's happened to him, the resiliency the guy has shown is amazing," Ross said. "He'll be more proud of what he's done than of what he could have done on the field."

    Make no mistake: Ross, a former Princeton wide receiver who is now the Giants' director of college scouting, is looking for players who want to win Super Bowls, not Nobel Prizes. And after all eight of the Giants' picks in last year's draft contributed to this past season's championship run, Ross has a high standard to meet.

    "I don't think he's afraid of the challenge," Giants general manager Jerry Reese said. "And it's really not a challenge. We're not looking for Marc Ross to match last year's draft.

    "We just want him to help us continue to draft good players ... and, of course, good people."

    YOUNG AND GREEN
    Reese had been the Giants' director of player personnel since 2002 before taking over as general manager last February. Three months later, he hired the 34-year-old Ross to take his place. Ross has climbed the ranks of the scouting system even more quickly than Reese, who was 39 when he became the Giants' college scouting boss.

    Ross has always been the young guy. He became a scouting intern in 1996 with the Eagles after one year as a public relations intern for the Giants. Only 23 when he was sent on the road to remote places like Montana to scout obscure players like linebacker Jason Crebo, he didn't know where he was going and had to haggle to get there. Because he was younger than 25, Ross wasn't allowed to rent a car until he proved it was a company account.

    "Now, these scouts are getting younger and younger," Ross said. "But when I started, there weren't many guys my age at all."

    It didn't stop him from gaining respect. Tom Modrak, hired by the Eagles as director of football operations in May 1998, noticed Ross' eye for talent immediately when he read his report on Florida State tackle Tra Thomas, whom Philly had drafted in the first round a few weeks prior to Modrak's hiring.

    "The description and the directness (of the Thomas report) ... his whole body of work was excellent," Modrak said. "That was an easy hire for me, to renew him."

    Under Modrak, Ross learned a fundamental draft lesson on not caving to outside pressure. In 1999, he and Modrak easily identified Syracuse quarterback Donovan McNabb as the player they wanted to take with the No. 2 overall pick. As the draft approached, the local sports talk station, fans and even the mayor of Philadelphia (now Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell) pleaded with the team to take running back Ricky Williams.

    The Eagles took McNabb, who was booed by Philly fans on draft day.

    Nine years later, it's clear Ross, Modrak and the rest of the Eagles' scouting department were correct. McNabb has gone to five Pro Bowls and one Super Bowl; Williams has been in and out of the league because of a short-lived retirement and several drug suspensions.

    Meanwhile, No. 1 overall pick Tim Couch, whom Ross and the Eagles rated below McNabb, quickly flamed out with the Browns.

    "The bottom line is: Does a guy help you win?" Ross said. "Football comes down to who makes the plays at the right time. Certain guys have a sense for that and a savvy about them. They have great football sense."

    In 2000, at the age of 27, Ross' football sense resulted in the Eagles' making him the youngest college scouting director in the NFL.

    His climb and good standing with the Eagles ended, however, four years later. Modrak had butted heads with the organization and was fired, followed out the door soon after by his entire staff.

    Ross rejoined Modrak in Buffalo and served as a national scout for the Bills. He had a lot of input into last year's impressive draft class, which included running back Marshawn Lynch, linebacker Paul Posluszny and quarterback Trent Edwards -- each of whom started as rookies.

    AN HONEST EVALUATION
    All the while, Ross has maintained his approach as a scout who doesn't hedge his bets.

    "He'll argue with you and that's good. I want guys that feel something and do it," Modrak said. "He doesn't politicize anything.

    "If the buzz is going one way and he doesn't feel it, he doesn't go that way. That's a quality that's special in this business."

    Ross didn't even sugarcoat his opinions of the Giants' draft last year when he interviewed with Reese and brought all of his reports to show his future boss.

    "Some of them were good," Ross said, "some of them were bad."

    Ross has been that honest and straightforward for quite some time, according to Steve Verbit, Princeton's defensive coordinator, who recruited Ross out of Archmere Academy in Claymont, Del.

    "Everybody was in love with Marc Ross at Archmere," Verbit said.

    "Teachers, coaches, guidance counselors -- all of them raved about his honesty and sincerity."

    Ross' adjustment to the Ivy League, academically and on the field, was a struggle. It wasn't until his junior season that the undersized speedster developed into an All-Ivy League receiver for the Tigers.

    "There were times I thought he was a volleyball player instead of a football player," Verbit said. "I would shake my head and think, 'What happened to the hands I saw on this young man two or three years ago?'"

    Ross knows how Verbit felt. While with the Eagles, one player he raved about was North Carolina's Na Brown -- a sure-handed receiver in college who quickly came down with a case of the dropsies in three disappointing NFL seasons with Philly.

    Of course, no scout is perfect. So Ross has tried not to let players that didn't pan out like Brown affect his approach or confidence in his ability to spot talent.

    "It's like a DB -- you get beat, you have to look forward to the next play," Ross said. "You have to have that conviction in your evaluations and your system.

    "You can't get gun-shy. You just keep going and forget about it."

    Even the successes -- like last year's draft -- can't be held onto for too long.

    "As we kept winning and those guys kept making plays, I was like, 'You're putting more pressure on me,'" Ross said with a laugh. "And (Reese) said, 'Hey, I expect you to take us to new levels.'

    "To me, it's a challenge. I told the scouts, 'That was a great draft, but it's over with and we have to look forward to next year. Our goal should be to make it even better.' And that is really 100 percent my goal."

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...lent_in_t.html

    Sounds like a good candidate and would stand up to Rex. "Get out of my kitchen, Rex!"

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