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    NFL.com: New York Jets' worst move of 2012? Not firing Rex Ryan

    Word.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...Twitter_Schein

    The New York Jets made former general manager Mike Tannenbaum the fall guy for their bumbling, grotesque, laughable 6-10 season of underachievement. They fired Tannenbaum on "Black Monday" via a statement from owner Woody Johnson, which included the explanation that coach Rex Ryan would return because of "the passion, the talent and the drive to successfully lead our team" that Ryan possesses.

    Apparently, Johnson didn't watch the Jets this season, or he doesn't understand how his football operations worked.

    In a year that included the Tim Tebow insanity, Mark Sanchez's gruesome underachievement, and the expression "butt fumble" becoming forever a part of the football lexicon, Monday's decision to keep Ryan and fire Tannenbaum was the Jets' worst moment of 2012.

    Hey -- happy New Year.

    The Jets had two choices: Take a deep breath and retain both Ryan and Tannenbaum -- a duo that won more games than they lost in their four years together -- or fire both. The one thing they shouldn't have done was attack the issue piecemeal.

    The decision was very simple, but the Jets messed it up in "butt fumble" fashion.

    You can make the case that Tannenbaum deserved to lose his job because of the extension given to Sanchez last offseason, guaranteeing the quarterback more than $8 million for 2013. It was basically money to pump up the confidence-deficient signal-caller coming off a shaky 2011. One could also cite other bad player contracts in making a case against Tannenbaum.

    But Ryan and Tannenbaum should've been attached at the hip.

    Ryan worked hand-in-hand with Tannenbaum on shaping the Jets. He had more power than most head coaches.

    Ryan was convinced Sanchez had the talent and personality (which is laughable to think now, after Sanchez's postgame press conferences this year) to handle New York and thrive. He wanted to draft Sanchez. He pushed for Tannenbaum to give him that contract after speculation arose that the Jets wanted Peyton Manning.

    Ryan wanted Tebow. He wanted to run the ball and get back to "ground and pound," and he envisioned Tebow as a threat in the red zone, in short-yardage situations and in the Wildcat.

    Remember the toxic Jets locker room in 2011 and all the finger pointing that was part of that season's collapse? Ryan thought Tebow could help the locker room. That's a fact.

    Yes, Tannenbaum was on board with the trade. But Ryan, who shares an agent with Tebow, drove the bus.

    Tannenbaum wanted to sign Chad Henne to be Sanchez's backup. The Jets did, in fact, sign Drew Stanton before the Tebow trade. After the Tebow trade, Tannenbaum did right by Stanton, dealing him to the Indianapolis Colts. As it turned out, Stanton would've been the best quarterback on the Jets' roster this year.

    Ryan hand-picked Tony Sparano as his offensive coordinator to run the ball. As Ryan told me, "I wanted to find the mirror image of me." It was an unmitigated disaster. The Jets' offensive line was the worst it had been in years. Ryan wanted Dave DeGuglielmo as his line coach. Ryan told me on SiriusXM this summer that he knew DeGuglielmo was his guy when he saw him kick over a garbage can, showing fight. Garbage, as it turned out, was the ideal metaphor.

    It's easy to say that Tannenbaum put together a poor roster, and it's a valid criticism. However, I'd argue that the bigger issue was giving Ryan so much say, listening to him when he claimed he could coach up the likes of Aaron Maybin and Wayne Hunter and turn them into signature players.

    In a related story, both Maybin and Hunter are now ex-Jets.

    The collaboration between Ryan and Tannenbaum sometimes worked, as it did when it came to Muhammad Wilkerson, Antonio Cromartie or LaRon Landry. But don't get confused. These are Rex's Jets, from Chaz Schilens to Bart Scott. Ryan told me that, when Tannenbaum told him Santonio Holmes was available via trade, he ran down to Tannenbaum's office faster than he ever had in his life.

    Nobody had a worse 2012 for the Jets than Rex.

    Sparano lost faith in Tebow early on because of bad practice and Tebow's weight gain. Last summer, Tebow was behind both Kyle Orton and Brady Quinn on the Denver Broncos' depth chart before leading the team to the playoffs. If you get in bed with Tebow, you don't judge on practice.

    Ryan is a sub-par in-game coach. His usage of timeouts and challenges is laughable.

    He consistently had the wrong quarterbacks active down the stretch. He went into the Thanksgiving game against the New England Patriots with Tebow as the backup quarterback, even though Tebow was hurt. After Greg McElroy saved the Jets in the offensively challenged matchup with the Arizona Cardinals, Ryan had him inactive for the next two weeks. That included the ill-fated Week 15 loss to the Tennessee Titans, during which Mark Sanchez turned the ball over five times. Would have been nice for Jets fans if Ryan had been able to go to McElroy in that one.

    Ryan coaches his team like a glorified defensive coordinator.

    He looks especially bad when one considers how the San Diego Chargers and Buffalo Bills closed out their seasons. Like the Jets, the Chargers and Bills were merely playing out the string over the final few weeks, but unlike the Jets, the Chargers and the Bills kept fighting. In Week 16, San Diego had to travel to the East Coast to face the Jets for an early start; the Bolts easily could have quit. Instead, they sacked McElroy 11 times in a 27-17 win. However, both the Chargers and Bills fired head coaches Norv Turner and Chan Gailey, respectively.

    Ryan, meanwhile, got to keep his job, even though he can't coach, manage, or properly evaluate players or coaches.

    What legit general manager candidate would take this job and inherit Rex?

    Think about the dynamic for next season. The Jets aren't close to competing with the New England Patriots and winning the AFC East. This offseason calls for the Jets to be re-shaped while the cap ramifications of Tannenbaum's bad deals are handled. The new GM should want to stockpile talent and build the team smartly. Ryan, on the other hand, will be coaching for his job; he'll favor band-aid-type solutions, even though surgery is what the Jets need.

    Historically, things don't work out when the new brass keeps the old coach. Look at Chicago Bears GM Phil Emery and former coach Lovie Smith. Analyze what happened when Mike Holmgren joined the Cleveland Browns without jettisoning Eric Mangini. Such moves simply delay the inevitable.

    The Jets either needed to keep both Mike and Rex, or they needed to start over.

    Keeping Ryan for another year with a new GM just ensures more wackiness -- and that I'll be penning a "Rex Ryan has been fired" column 365 days from now.

    Woody Johnson should really reconsider.

    I feel terrible for the diehard, long-suffering Jets fan, who deserved a better and clearer direction for the team to go.

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    great article. Tells it like it is.


    I didn't know Rex and Tebow shared the same agent. I guess that blows out the "Rex didn't want Tebow here in the first place" excuse for all the Rex lovers out there.

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    Not surprising at all to see Adam Schein is the author. While I don't always agree with him, in this case I do.

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    Hyperbolic Buffalo fan par excellence....he knows saying this crap to a SOJF is like saying "Alpo" to a dog, they lap it up

    NYG kept Coughlin when Reese came in, so much for history
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    Quote Originally Posted by simijet View Post
    Not surprising at all to see Adam Schein is the author. While I don't always agree with him, in this case I do.
    the same adam schien who was raving about how successful the tim tebow wildcat would be in the 2012 jets offense or how the jets would certainly draft courtney upshaw at #15 overall? he really knows his stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustykeller View Post
    great article. Tells it like it is.


    I didn't know Rex and Tebow shared the same agent. I guess that blows out the "Rex didn't want Tebow here in the first place" excuse for all the Rex lovers out there.
    If only they knew what goes on behind the scenes and thus know what the hell they're talking about. They blame Rex for the Tebow debacle yet it is as plain as can be he wanted absolutely nothing to do with him. How can Woody in good conscience fire Rex for a move Woody forced on Rex which blew up in his face? Other candidates would probably find this out and refuse to coach for him, so Woody has to give Rex an opportunity to let everyone forget about Woody's meddling before he can think of attracting top caliber candidates to this team.

    What if they do share the same agent? So ****ing what?

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    Oh, Adam Schein. Shocking.

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    The Jets worst move was, in hndsight, drafting Mark Sanchez.

    Worst QB of the past 4 years. No accuracy. Worst in turnovers.

    Mark Sanchez alone turned a 4 year stretch of potential into what we have today.

    An average, 15th-rated QB, and we're a 4 years running Playoff Team and possible Super Bowl winner by this point.

    Rex is responsible for Sanchez, but Sanchez is the core of our teams failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cant wait View Post
    the same adam schien who was raving about how successful the tim tebow wildcat would be in the 2012 jets offense or how the jets would certainly draft courtney upshaw at #15 overall? he really knows his stuff


    He is just a tad on the annoying side, isn't he?

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    WTF is this idiot writer making such ridiculous claims?

    This guy doesn't have the faintest f*cking idea what he's talking about. So instead of gathering some real insight, he'd rather talk through his A$$ in "butt fumble" fashion.

    Rex Ryan is a great HC. If the NYJ had even the least competent veteran QB in 2009 and 2010, we would talking about back to back rings for the Jets. Unfortunately, he was stuck with the biggest f*cking bust QB the league has ever seen. That POS was a turnover machine.

    Rex got everything he could out of each and every player, unfortunately Sanchez's best was to f*ck us out of the championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainejet View Post
    WTF is this idiot writer making such ridiculous claims?

    This guy doesn't have the faintest f*cking idea what he's talking about. So instead of gathering some real insight, he'd rather talk through his A$$ in "butt fumble" fashion.

    Rex Ryan is a great HC. If the NYJ had even the least competent veteran QB in 2009 and 2010, we would talking about back to back rings for the Jets. Unfortunately, he was stuck with the biggest f*cking bust QB the league has ever seen. That POS was a turnover machine.

    Rex got everything he could out of each and every player, unfortunately Sanchez's best was to f*ck us out of the championship.
    Did you even watch the Jets playoffs games in 2009 and 2010? To say that Sanchez kept us from winning rings those two years is moronic at best. We lost because our defense didnt show up in the 2nd half against Indy and in the 1st half against Pitt. Sanchez was arguably the best player on the field for the Jets in both those games. In his 6 playoff starts, he was great in 4 of them. In the other two where he didnt play so well, he led game winning drives in the 4th quarter against the Colts and Chargers. He also had a 9-3 TD-INT ratio, a 60% completion, and a 94+ QB rating ranking top 10 all time in NFL playoff history. Sanchez is not the answer, but he is the furthest of reasons the Jets didnt advance in those 2 games.

    Sanchez is a big reason for our failures the last 2 seasons, but was the reason we advanced as far as we did those 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jungle Shift Jet View Post
    Hyperbolic Buffalo fan par excellence....he knows saying this crap to a SOJF is like saying "Alpo" to a dog, they lap it up

    NYG kept Coughlin when Reese came in, so much for history

    Correct me if I'm wrong, Reese took over for a retired Ernie Accorsi. It was not a new regime. No one was fired and the franchise was not in a downward spiral. Completely different than the Jets' situation.

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    I stopped reading at Adam The Slimeball Schein....Village Idiot of the NYJ media village

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozu View Post
    Oh, Adam Schein. Shocking.
    I'd like to find where Rex said he could "coach up" Wayne Hunter. I've never heard Rex say any such thing.

    But no matter. When it comes to the Jets, pundits and "experts" are free to just make stuff up. Maybe Schein got this info from the same "NFL source" that Myers and Manish rely on for their breaking news.

    And Rex went to two AFC Championship games but Rex "can't coach."

    Schein's becoming Francesa lite. Yawn.

    We get it. Rex made a bunch of mistakes. The team underachieved. You want him fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetglass View Post
    Did you even watch the Jets playoffs games in 2009 and 2010? To say that Sanchez kept us from winning rings those two years is moronic at best. We lost because our defense didnt show up in the 2nd half against Indy and in the 1st half against Pitt. Sanchez was arguably the best player on the field for the Jets in both those games. In his 6 playoff starts, he was great in 4 of them. In the other two where he didnt play so well, he led game winning drives in the 4th quarter against the Colts and Chargers. He also had a 9-3 TD-INT ratio, a 60% completion, and a 94+ QB rating ranking top 10 all time in NFL playoff history. Sanchez is not the answer, but he is the furthest of reasons the Jets didnt advance in those 2 games.

    Sanchez is a big reason for our failures the last 2 seasons, but was the reason we advanced as far as we did those 2 years.
    BULLSH*T!!!

    For you to give Sanchez ANY credit for those wins is MORONIC at best. Give me a f*cking break?!

    The ONLY game where Sanchez was legitimately the reason why we won was the NE game.

    Sanchez was along for the ride in the rest of those games. The team had a dominant OL to the point where Sanchez could STARE down his receivers and still complete the ball. That's not good QB play, I'm sorry to say. That's an after-effect of having truly dominant team at the LOS. Go back and actually WATCH the games and you'll see that Sanchez was staring down his intended receivers ALL THE TIME.

    And as you might recall, being that you seem to know so much about it, in the Pitt game SANCHEZ was the reason we lost. Remember when he got stripped by a Pitt defender and returned for a TD? That made the deficit 24-0. Well, the defense as you would like to blame them, BLANKED the Pitt offense the entire 2nd half. The Jets scored 19 in the 2nd half.

    SO, if Sanchez takes better care of the football, Pitt never scores that last 7 points they had. Then, the Jets score 19 in the 2nd half and win by two points? And if the defense was to blame for 24 points in the 1st half, what about Sanchez? Does he get a pass for doing absolutely NOTHING with the offense in the 1st half of that game? I think not.

    Also, in the Indy game in 2009, yes the defense got gashed in the 2nd half but what about Sanchez and the offense? Was there ANY good reason why they couldn't score points against the terrible Colts D in the 2nd half? Mark Sanchez decided to take the rest of the game off, just like he did so many times before and after. Sanchez was the MOST inconsistent sh*tbag of a player I've ever seen.

    Now I feel the need to ask you...

    Did you really watch those games? Maybe you did, but you must've been completely blind when it came to Sanchez. His flaws, and the reason why the Jets are trying to cut him, were on full display in ALL of those playoff games.

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