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    Congress Passes $9.7 Billion Sandy Bill

    Congress passes $9.7 billion Sandy bill

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    Washington – The new US Congress has passed a $9.7 billion bill to help pay flood insurance claims to homeowners, renters and businesses damaged by Superstorm Sandy.

    The bill cleared the Senate following passage earlier Friday by the House. It replenishes the National Flood Insurance Program that was due to run out of money next week with some 115,000 Sandy-related claims as well as 5,000 from other floods unresolved.

    The late October storm ravaged the coast from North Carolina to Maine, with the worst flooding occurring in New York City and its suburbs, Atlantic City, New Jersey, and along the Connecticut coastline. Votes are planned later this month on another $51 billion aid package. The government already has spent more than $2 billion as part of the emergency response to the storm.
    2 Billion spent to-date, 10 additional Billion now granted, 51 more Billion coming.

    Guess it worked out ok after all.

    PDF of the House Bill can be found here: http://docs.house.gov/floor/
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    Republicans.


    HELP US!! HELP US WHEN TORNADOS WIPE OUT OUR TRAILER PARKS!!!


    Oh.


    You need help in NY/NJ? Well, yeehaw confederate country yeehaw. F*ck you Yankee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post
    Republicans.


    HELP US!! HELP US WHEN TORNADOS WIPE OUT OUR TRAILER PARKS!!!


    Oh.


    You need help in NY/NJ? Well, yeehaw confederate country yeehaw. F*ck you Yankee.
    Is this based on any actual facts, like comments by Republican Pols, or just hurf a blurf cause it took a few days extra to get passed?

    Did some Republican actually say something like "No aid for Sandy, only for Tornados in Red States"?

    Or is that just your reading their minds?
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    Hey Fish. What area of the country has received the most in Federal Disaster Aid in the past 20 years?


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    Lolz. Where Aceapephole?


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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post
    Hey Fish. What area of the country has received the most in Federal Disaster Aid in the past 20 years?


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    Probably New Orleans and the Mississippi Valley.

    But thats not what I asked.

    You said:

    You need help in NY/NJ? Well, yeehaw confederate country yeehaw. F*ck you Yankee.
    What are you basing that on? Seems pretty strait forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    Probably New Orleans and the Mississippi Valley.
    Nope.

    Texas.


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    Warfish Morris.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post
    Nope.

    Texas.


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    Texas is top for relief assistance requests... Provide the link with total dollars given to Texas in 20 years vs other states... Or stop lying

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    http://www.northjersey.com/news/nati...d_as_pork.html


    Broad $60.4B Sandy relief bill criticized as 'pork'

    Thursday January 3, 2013, 11:00 PM

    BY MICHAEL LINHORST AND MELISSA HAYES

    STATE HOUSE BUREAU

    The Record


    In more than 100 pages of legislation detailing the $60 billion disaster aid plan Congress considered, there’s almost no mention of specific projects: no order to rebuild the sand dunes in Belmar that washed away. No earmark to fix the breached berm in the Meadowlands that flooded Moonachie and Little Ferry. No direct payment for the thousands left homeless.

    Instead, the versions that passed between the House and Senate laid out the spending in broad terms. Replenish the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s budget; allocate funds for the Army Corps of Engineers to rebuild beaches and channels destroyed by superstorm Sandy; repair damaged roads, bridges and railroad infrastructure; and fund disaster relief and long-term housing needs through the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development.

    Those broad, unspecified categories — as well as a Senate bill that once included $400 million for projects like a new roof on the Smithsonian in Washington, D.C., and funding for fisheries in Alaska — allowed critics in Congress and elsewhere to claim the aid package is laden with “pork,” or unnecessary spending.

    For anyone reading the bill language, it’s unclear exactly what projects would get funded. But members of Congress who have supporting documents say the money would go to things like repairing the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island and to national fish hatcheries.

    “There’s a lot of money that isn’t going to New Jersey, and a significant amount that isn’t even going to New York,” said Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense, a Washington-based advocacy group.

    Some conservative members of Congress have also taken issue with funds to mitigate future damage, such as engineering the beaches at the Jersey Shore, to rebuild them better than they were before.

    Governor Christie, who said he called between 30 and 40 House members Monday and Tuesday to muster support for the full $60 billion, defended those allocations.

    “What I’m saying to some of the members is, is the rebuilding of the beach mitigation or is it restoration? It depends on the eyes of the beholder, I guess, but to me, you can’t responsibly rebuild unless and until you know you’re going to have a right to have a barrier at the beach,” Christie said Wednesday. “And so, then, how high do you build? How far back do you build? All of that is dependent upon what the Shore looks like. And so that may be mitigation to some, but to me it’s restoration to what it was before or made better so you can make wise types of investment decisions on how to rebuild private property and governmental property from there.”

    The original aid bill derailed late Tuesday, shocking lawmakers who were promised a vote that night, outraging Republicans and Democrats alike and provoking Governor Christie to say the “toxic internal politics of the House majority” was prolonging the suffering of devastated New Jerseyans. An hour after Christie publicly blamed House Speaker John Boehner, the House leader met with members of the New Jersey and New York delegation, announcing soon after that an agreement was reached.

    Now the newly reorganized House of Representatives is expected to vote Friday, but only to approve $9.7 billion to fund a federal flood insurance program that would have run out of money next week and delayed payments on more than 115,000 claims.

    The remainder of the aid package, about $51 billion, is split between two House bills that are scheduled for a vote Jan. 15. If approved, and all three measures have Boehner’s support, they go the Senate for consideration.

    The latest House measures were promised by Boehner and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor after they met with representatives from New York and New Jersey for about 30 minutes.

    After the Senate approved the aid in one bill, the House took a different approach and was set to consider two separate measures Tuesday.

    The first — a $27 billion bill signed off on by House Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers — covered immediate needs: the $9.7 billion for the national flood insurance program; $5.4 billion for the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s disaster relief fund to help individuals, families and communities in impacted areas; $5.4 billion for the federal Department of Transportation, which would fund Port Authority and NJ Transit recovery efforts; and $3.9 billion for the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development to make repairs to publicly owned hospitals, local roads, and utilities and small businesses.

    The second — which was expected to pass by a more narrow margin — crafted by Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen, R-Morris, called for $33 billion for flexible community block grants and transportation, flood control and beach protection projects.

    As of Thursday, Frelinghuysen had released a detailed breakdown of the $33 billion amendment he sponsored, but said it would fund longer-term recovery efforts and infrastructure improvements. His spokesman said the $27 billion and $33 billion measures were being reworked Thursday to reflect today’s expected vote on $9.7 billion for flood insurance and he could not release specifics. Both of the reworked bills would be on the agenda Jan. 15.

    The House removed the $400 million from the two bills it was set to consider Tuesday night after completing a vote on tax cuts as part of the fiscal cliff deal.

    The bill that passed in the Senate also included $287 million to repair national parks, including the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island, as well as national fish hatcheries and wildlife refuges along the East Coast.

    It called for $235 million to repair and reconstruct the Manhattan Veterans Affairs hospital and other facilities that were severely flooded; $161 million for the Small Business Administration’s disaster loan program, which offers low-interest financing to repair and rebuild private property, including homes, rental properties and businesses; $100 million for public health and social services programs affected by the storm; $24.2 million to repair Army National Guard buildings damaged by the storm; and $6 million for the U.S. Department of Agriculture to restock food banks and soup kitchens in affected areas.

    Rogers’ bill also included $1.35 billion for the Army Corps of Engineers to restore beaches and other infrastructure damaged by Sandy to pre-storm conditions. The legislation also directed the corps to submit plans for reducing future flooding and to dredge navigation channels.

    That dredging was included in a list put out by Taxpayers for Common Sense detailing what it says is “pork” included in the legislation.

    Ellis, of the taxpayers group, said the bill includes significant amounts of spending on projects unrelated to Sandy recovery, including $200 million for an Amtrak project on its Northeast Corridor rail line and new funding for Housing and Urban Development projects. He said the bill moved through the Senate too fast for lawmakers to scrutinize its contents.

    “Part of the interest in moving these things relatively quickly is they don’t stand up to scrutiny very well,” he said.

    Rogers said in a statement that the bill he released would provide “immediate relief, while also beginning the process of meeting long-term recovery needs.”

    Christie has estimated it will cost $36.9 billion for New Jersey to rebuild and recover from the storm, a figure that includes $7.4 billion in “mitigation and prevention costs,” which have not been detailed publicly.

    The governor on Wednesday said he sent supporting documentation to members of Congress, some of whom many not favor mitigation projects, like engineered beaches, but added no one has questioned the state’s request.

    “There are some that have a philosophical point of view that some of the things in the package should never be involved in disaster relief, not questioning the validity of our numbers, they questioned the philosophical approach as to whether that’s something that should be included in disaster relief,” Christie said. “Other than that $400 million, no one has come back to us and said our numbers are wrong, bad, inflated or cooked.”

    Email: linhorst@northjersey.com and hayes@northjersey.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite View Post
    Texas is top for relief assistance requests... Provide the link with total dollars given to Texas in 20 years vs other states... Or stop lying
    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009...g-perry-tenure



    took me less than 5 minutes to find this.
    The article is from 2009.


    Update: Billions Have Gone to TX in Federal Disaster Aid During Perry's Tenure

    By Jonathan Stein

    | Fri May. 1, 2009 6:13 AM PDT


    Yesterday I mentioned that Texas Governor Rick Perry's secessionist rhetoric flies in the face of Texas' history of receiving gobs of federal money: the state has received federal disaster assistance more frequently than any other in the Union.

    Today, I have some raw numbers, courtesy of FEMA's public affairs office in Denton, Texas. During Perry's tenure -- 2001 to the present -- FEMA alone has sent $3.45 billion to Texas. $3,449,142,397 to be exact. That figure does not include funding from any other federal agencies (of which there is plenty), nor does it include funding for Hurricane Ike recovery, which is still ongoing.

    To get a sense of how much federal money goes to Texas every time a disaster strikes, consider the numbers in this FEMA press release from earlier this month: since Ike made landfall in September 2008, Texas has received over $2 billion in disaster relief funding from various federal agencies. That includes just $96 million from FEMA (to pay hotel bills for displaced citizens). The rest comes from the Small Business Administration and other agencies.

    I want to be clear. I'm not saying Texas and its hurricane-weary citizens don't deserve this money. They do. I'm glad the federal government is able to step in and help states recover from natural disasters when local authorities are overwhelmed. But it's galling that Governor Perry, who reportedly has an eye on a presidential run, ginned up the GOP base by talking of splitting from the "oppressive" Obama administration (his words) when he knows full well that the federal government has bailed out his state repeatedly, and probably will do so again. Where does Perry think all this money would come from if Texas was its own state? He's probably have to raise taxes to the point where Texas would want to secede from itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite View Post
    Texas is top for relief assistance requests... Provide the link with total dollars given to Texas in 20 years vs other states... Or stop lying
    http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/0...imes-any-state


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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post
    More TIMES... I said that in my post.

    Should be concerned with $ not how many times aid is requested...

    There's a reason the numbers aren't posted... People don't want to see what's been spent in California fighting fires...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite View Post
    More TIMES... I said that in my post.

    Should be concerned with $ not how many times aid is requested...

    There's a reason the numbers aren't posted... People don't want to see what's been spent in California fighting fires...
    Federal aid is Federal aid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post
    Federal aid is Federal aid.


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    Like saying a nickel is a $1...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite View Post
    Like saying a nickel is a $1...
    And yet still the Republic of Texas asks the most.


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    I'm still waiting for PK's support for this:

    You need help in NY/NJ? F*ck you Yankee.
    Being a Republican position.

    In any event PK, wtf do you care who has asked for more aid or more times for aid. You've come out strongly for aid when aid is needed, basicly clalled me a greedy **** over it, so what, that position changes if it's Texas? Aid is aid, need is need.

    Again, you made a comment that (R) told NY/NJ to **** themselves. Please back it up with something other than the usual Wargarbl. Thats all I'm asking. If (R) hold this view, prove it, and win a debate.

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