Even with that said, go back and look at DT's production in his last 5 games and compare that to what he is averaging now with Manning. Newsflash for you, it's not that different.
The defense wasn't stacked at all. If you go look now, you'll see that 9 of the starters on D this year WEREN'T starters last year. That's a 75% turnover at the starting slots. Add to this a change in defensive scheme, coupled with JDR taking over as DC.
Oline, yeah, they were great last year in run blocking. Pass Pro ? Meh, not so good (and yes, some of that had to do with Tebow holding onto the ball for too long.)
As for Elway and Manning, there are 20+ starting QBs in the league who would have found themselves out the door if Manning had come to their team. So, is that supposed to bother me or something ?
Oops you had a little illogical leap in deduction: I didn't say you can't blame a QB for scoring any points. Let me reword it for you: It's hard to blame a veteran QB, much less a rookie QB, for losing to the Patriots with Tom Brady as the QB of the Patriots. Regardless of whether the other QB and offense scored any touchdowns against said Patriots defense.
And of course I blame Tebow for not scoring any points. He sucked in that game, just like any rookie QB in their first 4 years. Oh oops .... Tebow didn't get 4 years. My bad.
Considering I never even brought up who lost, the fact that you brought up "Tim losing to Brady" is completely illogical. All I said was that he didn't even score.
Don't reflect your buttmad onto me just because your golden boy is terrible and overrated.
In all your misguided love for Lolbow, you fail to realize that the big reasons they managed to do ANYTHING were because of their Defense and Kicker.
But, that's okay. Your boy is an irrelevant backup who's soon to be on his way to the CFL where he'll also be a backup. I'm okay with this.
The fans im talking about are the ones that go as far as buying tickets to games waiting to scream for him the second another qb struggles. Even if that qb is a first round prospect who is expected to struggle a bit. Think there might be a few of those in Jacksonville?? Imagine this. Tebow goes to Jax. where the majority of these people are, the jags have drafted Tyler Wilson (or some other qb doesnt really matter who but lets use Wilson as an example for the heck of it), he goes out for 4 weeks and struggles a bit while showing promise. Do you want that guy dealing with "TEBOW! TEBOW! TEBOW" his first year of development because you want to appease a bunch of nuts who follow this guy team from team? No.
You also don't seem to be able to understand what I said. Tebow wont go there not because he cant play or cant develop, he wont go there because these new guys in charge want their OWN quarterback that they hand-picked in there. It's how the NFL works. You don't blow a first or second round pick on a QB to stick him on the bench nowadays. The only reason you might do that is to let him learn but even then he's still the future meaning Tim is only a stop-gap for a year or two and nothing more. There is no chance for Tebow to become an "established starter" if the future of the franchise is waiting in the wings.
Oh, you are wrong my friend. Defense and Prater definitely had a lot to do with the wins.
But here, let me quote future HoF'er Champ Bailey for you:
Oh, and I've got some pictures of my own:"I don't want to give him all the credit," Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey said of Tebow. "But at the same time, he comes through at crunch time every week. Every single week it's like, 'You've got to be kidding me.' It gets to the point where you say, 'What the frickin' is happening here?' "
Yep, that's #2.