Reply With QuoteMangini, 3 and out, Ryan 4 and out sounds like the O. That's not how the NFL works, consistency is what works unless you catch lightening in a bottle.
There's a reason why John Harbaugh got the job over Rex.Originally Posted by SAR I
Look at Baltimore over the time since Billick's firing!
Rex was "passed over" for that job in his mind, too.
When it's clear: He's a great defensive coordinator, probably the best in the NFL, but he's not a head coach.
Mangini, 3 and out, Ryan 4 and out sounds like the O. That's not how the NFL works, consistency is what works unless you catch lightening in a bottle.
You've got it backwards, bro.
It's no longer about us telling you why Rex Ryan sucks. That ship has sailed. That's now a given.
It's now your job to tell us why Rex Ryan is good. Go for it. Give us 10 reasons why Rex Ryan is a great coach. Here, here's a blank page, fill it in:
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The onus is on you to convince us now, not the other way around.
Savvy?
SAR I
I know all the players Rex kept from Mangini and which ones -- and when/why -- he let them go. Tell me which ones made an ounce of impact in the league since leaving the Jets.
We're beyond the issue of Mark Sanchez. That means nothing right now. He was always only 10% of our problem. He's only 5% now.
We have colossal issues in the front office, with the owner, with the head coach, with the lack of a coaching staff, unable to hire a quality GM, no free agents wanting to come here, established veterans wanting out, the gap between us and the Patriots now a chasm, can't even dream of catching the Colts or Bengals for a measly wildcard.
SAR I
SAR, you know damn well there aren't 10 reasons why Wrecks is a good HC. Shame on you.
As the days go by and they sign with other teams you'll see.
SAR I
Rex Ryan is a pathological liar.
Play back Tuesday's press conference. Play back last January's press conference. Play back his introductory press conference.
It's all the same stuff. He thinks we're a bunch of idiots. Unfortunately, Mr. Blue Collar Tattoo Beer Guzzling Bad Vocabulary Jets Fan loves the guy, they can relate to him because they share a common trait- stupidity.
SAR I
Since Billick is gone, the Ravens have just as many rings as Rex. ZIP. And it's not happening this year. They're just bridesmaids now
using that logic, how would you define herm and mangini's up and down tenures? seems like the jets were in the playoffs every other year during both. thats just one example that shows your logic is flawed. nfl is way too difficult to predict...
I agree with OP - I think the silent majority still believes in Rex.
I just wish you had a poll on this so we could see the numbers.
that's your answer? haha. I understand you're anti-everything Rex, but stop reaching just to try to push your opinions on us. If it's not there, don't force it, stay away from the topic.
You always talk how successful you are, so how is doing due diligence here a bad thing? The Jets have looked at many candidates, even ones that aren't buzz names. Any smart business person will tell you this is the correct way to handle it.
We are 1-11 against teams with a winning record in our last 12 tries because of our defense. We get blown out of these games, not even close most times.
I'm assuming you're under the age of 30 and don't realize that the Jets had a very strong core for the last 15 years, so replacing the QB fixed a lot of problems.
O'Donnell out Testaverde in, instant success.
Testaverde out Pennington in, instant success.
Pennington out Favre in, instant success.
Favre out Sanchez in, instant success.
It's been a nice 15 years doing that to fix problems because we always had a good running game, always had a decent defense, always had playmakers. Those days are over. It's not on the QB anymore. It's on everything.
SAR I
That's why I'm cautious when it comes to people telling me, "But, dude, he said he realizes that he was to blame! Dude, he said he wants an attacking offense!", and all those sort of things. At this point, I've come to realize that Rex may KNOW his methods aren't working, but that doesn't mean he isn't going to just do them anyway.
Rex Ryan is insanity incarnate.
Must be the real David Harris because that's clearly the 10.9 million 2013 Salary talking.
On the Rex stuff, I can't believe how worked up everyone is on this. Their is enough justification to fire him, and enough to keep him. Right now the issue of whether he should coach the Jets in 2013 is minor compared to hiring a GM and getting an OC that can put together a scheme that scores more for the Jets than for the other team.
Mike Tannenbaum's supposed cap "disasters" never occurred. That was what was so great about him. Every few seasons we'd hear about the Mayan Apocalypse that was going to cripple us. Then we'd sign a bunch of free agents. Then we had no cap issues. Was like magic.
I am more concerned about the players that Rex chose than the money they make. Like your voodoo leader himself said "We are not going to let contracts or money stand in the way of choosing the best talent."
Oops.
SAR I
No, and I don't listen to that station either.
Gee, could it be that he's about my age and has been a Jets fan as long as I have been and, you know, can see clearly?
I don't know who you are or where you came from to suddenly have this presence on JI, but start listening to what others are saying, get out of your bubble.
I like Mark Sanchez too, bro. I think he got a bum deal, I think he had no playmakers, I think that given the right situation he can get a lot better. But as long as Rex Ryan is here there's no point.
SAR I
He IS bizarre.
It's the Jets, man. WE are bizarre as well. Look at this board. Look to the left. Now look to the right.
Just look at us. We're a bunch of freaking weirdos. If we weren't, we'd be Giants fans.
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There may be no "big names" out there right now, but when a GM comes in first and then a month later chooses his HC they are air-tight, they are boyfriend and girlfriend, they are on the same page.
The situation we have set ourselves up for never works in the NFL. The way this plays out is what you've heard on the radio and in the papers that you think is just "hype".
Rex will get fired a year from now, the GM will pick a new HC, the new HC will pick new coordinators, the rebuilding will begin.
And our offense gets worse. That's the biggest damage of all in our scenario. No QB or offense can deal with 4 offensive coordinators in 5 years. I don't think that's ever happened in the history of the NFL.
SAR I
Not sure what that's supposed to mean.
Often, it's better to type nothing than to type stupid.
SAR I
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