Just in case anyone did not get the message, Sar thinks Rex Ryan is a terrible coach and should be fired ASAP. This is not just his opinion, it is fact and not open for discussion or debate.
Can we end this thread now?
For a year, many of us have been shouting "Rex Ryan lost the team after the debacle in Miami" only to be told we're disloyal idiots and forced to give examples as to why he sucked, then asked to name who his replacement would be.
Welcome to 2013. It's a new world now. After the last two seasons and all the circus acts and all the defections and all the turmoil it's plain to see that we were right, Rex Ryan is a joke, and last year was it. He's done. Finished.
So now, the Rex Ryan apologists are on the run. Now the Rex Ryan apologists are the disloyal idiots. Now the Rex Ryan apologists have to give examples of why he is good and then asked to name an NFL head coach who is worse.
Shoe, meet the other foot. It's going to be a fun offseason.
Here are examples:
He won 6 games this season with the worst QB (it was not even close) in the entire NFL.
Rex got the Jets to two AFCCG's with a QB in the bottom 16 (and that's being generous) of the entire NFL.
Bad HC's do not out-smart and out-prepare BB and Brady. And Rex did. Rex's coaching and game-planning is the sole reason the Jets beat a more talented Patriot team in the playoffs.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/cl...at-to-rex-ryanThe Jets were 9-1/2 point dogs. They were coming off a narrow playoff defeat of Indianapolis. They had the league's fourth-ranked rushing attack and a top-five defense that forced turnovers, produced sacks and kept opponents close. They also had a club that was hammered five weeks earlier in Foxborough, 45-3.
Now fast forward to Sunday. Houston has Arian Foster and the league's eighth-ranked running game. It has a reliable defense that forces turnovers, produces sacks and keeps opponents close. And, like New York two years before them, the Texans got smoked in Foxborough.
But the Jets pulled the upset, and pay attention, Houston.
They won with defense, flummoxing Brady by rushing three or four, blanketing his receivers and forcing him into atypical misfires and mistakes. In fact, Brady was so rattled he was outplayed by Mark Sanchez, who threw three touchdown passes and led the Jets to their second straight conference championship game.
"You work all week on one thing," a disappointed Wes Welker said afterward, "and then you get something different."
Huh? According to the Patriots' wide receiver, New England expected the Jets to do what they'd done before, which is play man-to-man coverage. Instead, they mixed their defenses, disguised coverages and threw in a lot of zone packages. Result: They confused Brady and sacked him five times.
"I think we got him frustrated," said cornerback Antonio Cromartie.
I almost don't need to elaborate on that, but I will.
Your stats tell you Mark Sanchez was "bottom 16" in 2009 and 2010, but the truth is he was a 22 year old kid thrown into the starting role from scratch. His first 10 games were very shaky, made his stats look awful, then he led us on a run where we won 16 of 20 games. The kid is a winner. The kid needs some playmakers restored to him. Mike Westhoff said the same thing today on the radio and he's got no reason to protect him anymore.
Let's look at the receiving starters for that divisional playoff win over the Patriots:
Jericho Cotchery (5 receptions 96 yards)
Braylon Edwards (2 receptions 52 yards 1 TD)
Santonio Holmes (3 receptions 20 yards 1 TD)
Ladanian Tomlinson (1 receptions 1 TD)
Dustin Keller (3 receptions 15 yards)
We had no one, not a single Jet, who is anywhere as good as anyone on this list except for Santonio Holmes for three weeks. For the rest of the season, we had a bunch of scrubs that wouldn't star on a high school team.
You can't do two things:
1. Overblame Mark Sanchez for our failures these last two years.
2. Underblame the horrific defense for these last two years.
This is a thread about Rex Ryan suckage. Predictably, the Rex Ryan Apologists are steering it into yet another "blame Mark Sanchez!" pile of sh-t. They can't name 10 good things about Rex, so they twist the subject matter back to the quarterback because he's the easy scapegoat. Some of us aren't so gullible.
Last edited by SAR I; 01-11-2013 at 07:55 PM.
SAR wanted us to draft Leinart on the first round in '06. He also loves Sanchez, just humor him, he knows not what he posts.
I think Rex is the man and I love how he played the media with this tatoo thing. As someone here said, you don't want to be honest with reporters. You can shut them out like Mangenious, or entertain us. It makes no diffrence either way. Why does everyone hang on every word of pure BS. I want to see my team play and could care less what they say. That said, this season was a HUGE setback. We only need a reliable QB to set it back on track.
The only thing I can fault Rex for is for blindly sticking with Sanchez all season long when it was obvious he was regressing.
Year 1 & 2 we HAD to go ground & pound.
Year 3 we sat back and said "ok, it's Sanchez' 3rd year, lets give him some weapons, while we focus our attention on our aging defense".
Everyone makes it out to be Year 3 Sanchez had no one. He had Holmes, Tall redzone threat Burress, Keller, Kerley, LT etc.
But he still couldn't get it done.
Sanchez is the problem. It's not even a personnel problem. Screw the stats, if you watched the games you know his decision making was awful. His accuracy was god awful. Just look at any of his 7 picks between the Arizona and Tennessee games. I remember that overthrown pass to Cumberland at Tennessee specifically, or even the blindly thrown ball to Kerry Rhodes against Arizona.
And your telling me Rex and his defense is at fault for that? Idk man.
Like I said Rex's problem is that he stuck with Sanchez too long. That's about it. He's a very good HC.
We knew what we were getting when we brought in a rookie HC. He's learning as the years go on. We made this bed, now lets lay in it. Give this man a real, capable OC and let's see what we can do.
Last edited by Flushing Roots; 01-12-2013 at 09:02 AM.
Year 3 Sanchez had a young and inexperienced Kerley, Plax who could not run a route to save his life , yes he was an effective redzone target , but really that's it. Holmes ,the classic malcontent , happy when the ball came his way , pouting and not caring when it didn't . Oh yeah BTW what wr did the opposition double on the Jets - #10. A noticably slowing down LT and a plodding run into my linemen Greene. And to boot the skill positions weren't even the main problem. The OLine broke down big time yet Rex insisted upon his ground & pound mentality.
You look at int's like Sanchez threw against Arz and Tenn and say look at that overthrow or he threw right to a DB. What you don't see or fail to care is that probably half of those picks were caused by scrub players running wrong routes or maker improper adjustments. Eli Maning makes just as many "boneheaded" picks but those are pooh poohed because the offensive weapons and gameplans they give him allow him to make up for it. Eli went throug a stretch of like 3 games where he didn't have a TD , but all I heard was oh he has a tired arm and Hakeem Nicks is hurt while Sanchez was throwing to F'in Clyde Gates, Mardy Gilyard & Chaz Schilens. At least give Sanchez a full complement of weapons and a competent Offensive gameplan before we crucify him.