WR's take 3 YEARS TO DEVELOP in the National Football League. Hill is going to be fine. Resign Keller and Braylon to 1 year incentive laden deals I think our receiver corps next season will be pretty good with a healthy Tone back and Kerley in the slot.
Yet if the Jets had just held onto Favre one more year and brought in Rex they would have won the Super Bowl in 2009.
It's one thing to get under the cap - it's another to get under the cap and to still have to sign/resign 11 starting positions.
Sure, we can free up space to be around 15-20 million under, but then we have 11 starters to sign. Do the math... it's not an ideal position.
As for your other comments insulting me for no reason - GFY
Kerley is a #3 WR and a slot guy who was asked to do way too much last season. Hill is learning but should not yet be relied upon as a starter.
A lot can happen in the next few months- like I said, they could either trade or restructure Harris and Cro to free up room.. Maybe they trade Revis or agree to a new contract that will lower his 2013 cap number.. if any of those things happen, maybe they're able to make a moderate splash in FA and sign an impact player or two..
some of the stuff straight makes no sense.
example. soooo do we need to replace him or not?
other stuff is just throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks. its based on nothing.Moore - The other starting OG to probably have played his last down as a Jet. His play is declining, but without a viable alternative, the Jets could be offering Moore a one year deal.
Slauson - After the Jets jerked him around by making him take a paycut and then subbing in Duccase during the season, I dont see any way Slauson is coming back.-Landry is going to get paid. The Jets can't afford what he'll demand on the market.
Here's my plan:
Projected 2013 Cap $122,000,000
Projected NY Jets 2013 Cap Number as of now- $141,589,382
1. Cut Pace----Saves $8,560,000
2. Cut Scott---Saves $7,150,000
3. Cut E. Smith---Saves $3,000,000, or take pay cut to $1.0 million for the year. Still good depth to have but at the right price.
4. Cut J. Smith---Saves $12,000,000
5. Cut Tebow---Saves $1,531,875 but more importantly a ton of BS
6. Cut Pouha---Saves $3,833,332
7. Carry Over $5,000,000 of cap relief from the 2012 cap
8. Re-work Harris' contract---Extend Harris 1 year and turn $6 million of his 2013 base salary into a signing bonus which gets spread out over the remaining 3 years of his contract. Saves $4,000,000 in 2013. It would still make him cuttable in 2014 if he has a bad year again.
9. Re-work Mangold' Contract---Turn his 2013 $3 million roster bonus into a signing bonus and that would spread it out over the remaining 5 years of his contract. Saves $2,400,000 in 2013.
10. Cut Sanchez after June 1st. Saves $0 but well worth it.
11. How to deal with Cromartie and Revis
All of these moves could save the Jets $47,475,207 on next years cap and I don't think that any of them are unreasonable. Those savings would give the Jets $27,885,825 of cap room in 2013. You have to figure $6 million of that would go to signing draft picks which leaves $21,885,825 for free agents.-Extend Cromartie 3 years past his current contract. 3 yrs $33 million $14.5 guaranteed $5 million signing bonus. Spread over the remaining 5 years of his contract would be $1 million pro-rated bonus from 2013-2017.
-Turn Cromartie's 2013 $7 million base salary into a bonus and spread it over the remaining 5 years. $1.4 million pro-rated bonus from 2013-2017.
-His pro-rated bonus of $2.3 million from his first contract here would still hit in 2013 and 2014.
His cap hit for 2013 would be $4.7 million, saving $4.8 million on the cap.
-Extend Revis for 6 years $78 million, $40 million guaranteed ($13 million annually would be tops in the NFL for CB). $30 million signing bonus. Spread over the life of the contract is $4.28 million per year from 2013-2019.
-His cap hit for 2013 would rise by $4.28 million.
-Making all of those moves would basically allow the Jets to keep both for the next 5 years and not take any more of a cap hit in 2013 by doing so.
$21,885,825 is a lot of money available to spend on free agents especially if you structure the contracts correctly. So we are not in bad shape at all. And there are many more aggressive maneuvers the GM could make to drop the cap even more. Don't believe the hype.
Besides Landry nobody you listed made any kind of impact beyond being average this year. Let them walk.
Wow.. Okay. Let's keep this simple.
Say the Jets make those cuts that were listed (Pace, Scott, J Smith, E Smith, Tebow)
Okay.. that saves us a bunch of money. Instead of being 19 million over, we're now about 14 million under.
Great... BUT -
That "$14 million" under obviously doesn't include our FAs. That means we either have to resign those FAs, or replace those players. Landry, Bell, Devito, Thomas, Greene, Keller, Slauson and Moore count ZERO dollars against the 2013 cap right now - because they're all FA.
We have about 11 starting spots to fill between our roster cuts and our own FAs. Whether or not your want to bring back Moore or Devito or Bell or replace them with new players, it's really going to eat into that $14 million of cap space. That's my point.
The good news is that besides for Landry, Slauson and maybe Devito, the Jets should be able to resign of their own FAs at a reasonable cost.
other stuff is just throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks. its based on nothing.
Moore's play has been lackluster. He's 33 and on the decline. In any other year, I dont think the Jets bring him back. However since Slauson is also a FA and their backups are Ducasse and ? There's a decent chance the Jets bring him back.
Slauson is a good NFL guard. He was also a Callahan pick, and Bill isn't here anymore. I wish the Jets keep Slauson, but after they had him take a pay cut last year, and then were taking snaps away from him to put in Ducasse, I don't think he's a lock to come back. There will be a market out there for him.
Landry is already on the record that he wants to be paid. The Jets got a big discount last year because of Landry's injury and his injury history. Well, he's put together a healthy season, earned a pro bowl birth, and wants a big deal. Do the Jets spend $5 million in 2013 to keep him on the roster with their cap and roster situation? I would be happy, but surprised, if they found a way to bring him back.
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I will still say that even with the $21 million i cap room, we still have to find/resign 10/11 starters, so we're still not in as great shape as you'd think.
I do 100% agree that once we get past 2013, the Jets are in fine shape in regards to the cap.
We should be able to get 10 upper 50% recievers for what we are paying that POS.
Bring back Plaxico to teach the pig to shoot himself in the leg so we can be rid of him.