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    Quote Originally Posted by kmsurfs2000 View Post
    talk to Adam Schefter you must not like his research it was his comment I posted
    I don't.

    He's a dick himself who just refuses to do research.

    But then that's what you should expect from BS-pn employees.

    They're not interested in THE TRUTH, they're interesting in the NEGATIVITY.



    That's why he mentioned that Idzik had little to no player-personnel experience WHEN THE TRUTH COULD EASILY BE FOUND IN HIS SEATTLE SEAHAWKS BIO with a click of the mouse....

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    seriously...one of the mods should dump this thread.


    I DONT LAIKE IDZIK, HE WERK WITH NUMBRS TEW MUCH

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmsurfs2000 View Post
    how can you have a guy or even consider a guy for your GM that has never had a job evaluating talent -this is a football job

    all this talk of a cap guru is nonsense-it is not rocket size-everybody gets to spend the same amount and you have to structure contracts to maximize that-

    I have a MBA from a top school-I am good with numbers does this mean I would make a good GM or any contract lawyer would?

    a football GM's number one job is to help put a quality roster together not be a number cruncher and the numbers are what they are-sanchez contract and cap number wont change...
    I hear you smurf. I would agree that in today's NFL, finding a guy who has a track record for successful player evaluation & selection and doubles as a shrewd numbers man is a good way to go.

    In situations where you can't get that guy, I'd definitely tag someone with the player evaluation skills, especially on a team with a dearth of talent at crucial positions like QB and WR...

    Idzik, on paper, looks like a pretty decent candidate.

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    It's not smurfs. It's surfs as in "Surf's up, dude".

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    ^ don't you hate it when an image doesn't come out when you want it to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmsurfs2000 View Post
    was not referring to him directly but the concept of a cap guy in general-we need a guy that judges talent and has a history of building a team through the draft and free agency

    but since you went there I will throw this out there and can find a million just like it

    Seahawks cap guru John Idzik has emerged as the favorite for the Jets' general manager job.
    Per ESPN's Adam Schefter, Idzik has overtaken in-house candidate Scott Cohen and Pittsburgh's Omar Khan as the "clear frontrunner" to replace Mike Tannenbaum in New York. Schefter reports Idzik could be offered the job "as early as tonight." Idzik's title with Seattle is "VP of Football Administration." He has little to no background as an evaluator of personnel and talent.
    The media said it, then it must be true.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmsurfs2000 View Post
    how can you have a guy or even consider a guy for your GM that has never had a job evaluating talent -this is a football job

    all this talk of a cap guru is nonsense-it is not rocket size-everybody gets to spend the same amount and you have to structure contracts to maximize that-

    I have a MBA from a top school-I am good with numbers does this mean I would make a good GM or any contract lawyer would?

    a football GM's number one job is to help put a quality roster together not be a number cruncher and the numbers are what they are-sanchez contract and cap number wont change...
    He is involved in evaluation of talent in Seattle. Personnel decisions are a shared responsibility with the Seahawks. Think of it as a committee of Schneider, Idzik and Carroll. Its been that way for 4 years now and has worked. What about this is so hard for people to understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmsurfs2000 View Post
    how can you have a guy or even consider a guy for your GM that has never had a job evaluating talent -this is a football job

    all this talk of a cap guru is nonsense-it is not rocket size-everybody gets to spend the same amount and you have to structure contracts to maximize that-

    I have a MBA from a top school-I am good with numbers does this mean I would make a good GM or any contract lawyer would?

    a football GM's number one job is to help put a quality roster together not be a number cruncher and the numbers are what they are-sanchez contract and cap number wont change...
    Try to get your facts straight:

    Jets expected to make offer to Seahawks executive John Idzik to become new G.M.

    BY Manish Mehta

    The Jetsí thorough search for a new general manager is nearly over.

    Woody Johnson appears to have zeroed in on Seahawks vice president of football administration John Idzik, who reportedly will be offered the job to replace the recently fired Mike Tannenbaum. The Jets, who interviewed at least nine candidates in the past three weeks, were poised to offer the position to Idzik as early as Thursday night, according to ESPN.

    Idzik had a second interview Wednesday before flying back to Seattle.

    He was part of the second wave of candidates to interview with Johnson, team president Neil Glat and executive search firm head Jed Hughes last week. Johnson & Co. expanded the candidate pool after top choice David Caldwell chose the Jaguars G.M. job.

    Johnson narrowed the list down to Idzik and Steelersí executive Omar Khan, both of whom have specialized in contract negotiations and salary cap navigation. Former G.M.s Jerry Angelo, Ted Sundquist and in-house candidate Scott Cohen were also in consideration after the first round of interviews.

    The prevailing belief entering the search process was that the Jets, whose roster is in desperate need of a makeover, would choose a G.M. with a personnel/scouting background like Caldwell.
    However, Johnson looks like heíll go with Idzik, whose business and operations acumen is the strongest part of his resume. Idzik and Glat previously had dealings with each other when Glat worked for the league office.

    The next significant step will be what Idzik decides to do to revamp the Jetsí personnel department. Johnson said last week that the new general manager, not Rex Ryan, will have final say on personnel matters. Ryan wasnít involved for much of the search process in the past few weeks.

    Idzik, who has a math degree from Dartmouth, isnít a clone of Tannenbaum, who was largely viewed as a cap specialist despite spending six years in the pro personnel department. Idzik played college football before coaching two seasons (as a grad assistant at Duke and wide receivers coach at SUNY Buffalo).

    Idzik was a player personnel assistant for the Buccaneers before rising up the ranks to assistant general manager during his 11 seasons with Tampa Bay. He spent three years as the senior director of operations with the Cardinals before joining the Seahawks in 2007.

    Idzik has ties to the Jets. His father, John, was an assistant for Walt Michaels in the late 70s.

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    MBA my ass...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shuler82 View Post
    that wasn't Schefter's comment, you azzclown, that was rotoworld's uneducated editorial spin.

    as everyone else has stated, take 5 minutes and read the man's bio. He's not even close to being Tanny Part Deuce.
    You are right, but in the wrong way.

    Tannenbaum had more player personnel experience than this guy. This guy is an operations manager. The beer lines will be shorter than ever before but we still won't be able to draft a natural pass rusher.

    SAR I

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post
    You are right, but in the wrong way.

    Tannenbaum had more player personnel experience than this guy. This guy is an operations manager. The beer lines will be shorter than ever before but we still won't be able to draft a natural pass rusher.

    SAR I
    are you a betting man or all talk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustykeller View Post
    seriously...one of the mods should dump this thread.


    I DONT LAIKE IDZIK, HE WERK WITH NUMBRS TEW MUCH
    But does he has MBA? I have masters degree two, I am bean counter, I two can cap numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet View Post
    are you a betting man or all talk?
    KJ
    Don't play along with him. His act has become old and stale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmsurfs2000 View Post
    how can you have a guy or even consider a guy for your GM that has never had a job evaluating talent -this is a football job

    all this talk of a cap guru is nonsense-it is not rocket size-everybody gets to spend the same amount and you have to structure contracts to maximize that-

    I have a MBA from a top school-I am good with numbers does this mean I would make a good GM or any contract lawyer would?

    a football GM's number one job is to help put a quality roster together not be a number cruncher and the numbers are what they are-sanchez contract and cap number wont change...
    You have an MBA and yet you don't have the sense to evaluate a prospect based on his complete qualifications for a job, instead you over-react to tweets and the narrative the media has run with that gets the most clicks. The narrative that we just hired Tanny 2.0 and there should be outrage.

    This guy has a much more extensive set of qualifications compared to where we were, and to many of the candidates other teams have considered.

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    all the jets need is a cap manager. i think rex is going to be making all the football decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    KJ
    Don't play along with him. His act has become old and stale.
    You are right C Mart. He gets annoying after awhile. He never has anything decent to say in support of the team. But to begin to dump on a guy who has not been hired yet is a new low even for SAR.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post
    You are right, but in the wrong way.

    Tannenbaum had more player personnel experience than this guy. This guy is an operations manager. The beer lines will be shorter than ever before but we still won't be able to draft a natural pass rusher.

    SAR I

    At least the beer lines will not be rocket-size.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by kmsurfs2000 View Post
    as I stated I was not speaking to a specific guy but the concept and then I put what was posted by adam schefter-Seahawks cap guru John Idzik has emerged as the favorite for the Jets' general manager job.
    Per ESPN's Adam Schefter, Idzik has overtaken in-house candidate Scott Cohen and Pittsburgh's Omar Khan as the "clear frontrunner" to replace Mike Tannenbaum in New York. Schefter reports Idzik could be offered the job "as early as tonight." Idzik's title with Seattle is "VP of Football Administration." He has little to no background as an evaluator of personnel and talent.
    I'm just going to say this much. I would rather a GM that listens to his scouts then one that thinks he knows better. If you look at some of our worst picks it was basically our GM trying to out smart someone. John Idzik knows football very well he has been around it all his life. He is not going to try to steal someone elses pick or worry when one position fly's off the board early. Idzik knows enough about talent evaluation to know the best G on the board in the 2nd round doesn't always have 2nd round value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdanNJ View Post
    all the jets need is a cap manager. i think rex is going to be making all the football decisions.
    It won't be like that, thankfully. Rex can't handle being a HC add personnel to his plate and this team will be 3-13 in no time.

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