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Thread: Jets hire Mornhinweg as OC

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYJ37/12 View Post
    I said it 4 years ago, I said it last week and I'll say it again,

    the wco is what Sanchez needs. great hire.
    Uh, Sanchez is a horrible fit for the WCO. I don't think there is possibly another offensive style that suits Sanchez worse.

    WCO requires an accurate QB who can hit receivers in stride to get YAC. Out of Sanchez's many weaknesses his accuracy is number 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetstream23 View Post
    Mornhinweg has nowhere to take this offense but up. ... Expectations are low on offense, let's hope Marty does more than just meet them.
    good post





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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    @Ted_Sundquist: Taking EVERYTHING & EVERYONE interviewed into account, Marty Mornhinweg a good selection for OC of the #JETS.

    @Ted_Sundquist: #MartyMornhinweg has overseen 10 Top 10 passing attacks, 9 total OFF, as an OC or QB coach. That includes 5 different QB's. #Jets
    What's up with Sundquist tweeting about this? Wasn't he a candidate for Jets GM?

    Interesting points he makes.

    The Jets are clearly trying to salvage Mark Sanchez.

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    This was from a scouting report the year he was drafted at USC:

    Possesses above-average arm strength, but it's his accuracy and timing that make him efficient. Has been tutored in an NFL-style offense at USC and showcases the ability to make NFL-type reads.

    In addition hehad a 65% completion pct in college.

    My point, he's yet to play in a true offense in the NFL. The G&P philosophy of Rex is about as archaic of an offense as there is. Let's see what Mornhinweg can do with him this year, if he falters he's gone and next year along with the cap concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    Uh, Sanchez is a horrible fit for the WCO. I don't think there is possibly another offensive style that suits Sanchez worse.

    WCO requires an accurate QB who can hit receivers in stride to get YAC. Out of Sanchez's many weaknesses his accuracy is number 1.
    accuracy is needed for all "offenses" but WCO is a great fit for Sanchez

    The West Coast Offense employs a variety of formations and pre-snap motions designed to confuse defenders. It also relies heavily on an ability to flood a defense with more receivers than they can handle. The quarterback often moves around more than in a conventional offense with designed roll outs and bootlegs that are tied in with the patterns being run by the receivers.


    the bold part are the strengths of Sanchize

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    I wasn't for Marty Mornhinweg based on negative stigma attached to him but when you look at his body of work. It's actually pretty good. It fits especially when you consider the big play element that the Jets lacked. Ultimately, The league is all about talent but if you read Marty's bio in the Eagles media guide. He has an excellent track record as an OC. Snippets from his bio.

    The 2011 Eagles offense set franchise records in total net yards(6,386) and first downs(356). LeSean McCoy finished the year with 1,309 yards and 20 total touchdowns.

    From 2008 to 2010. Mornhinweg's Eagles offense shattered the record for points scored. In 2010, The Eagles ranked 2nd in overall yards and became the first offense in league history to average over 4 yards an attempt in all 16 regular season games. Team averaged league best 5.4 yards a run.
    For his efforts, Marty Mornhinweg earned NFL assistant coach of the year honors from Pro Football Weekly.

    Since Marty Morhinweg took over the Eagles play calling in 2006, The Eagles lead the NFL in 25 plus yard pass plays(219) and yards per touch(8.1). The Eagles were 3rd in yards and 5th in scoring in the league over that span.

    His offensive playcalling success extends back to his time in San Fran. in 1998, The 49ers became the first team since the 1941 Bears to lead the league in gross passing and rushing yards en route to a franchise best 6,800 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath View Post
    Why didnt andy reid bring morningwig to KC with him?
    Maybe there's more money in New York. Maybe his home is in this area.

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    And what about this part?

    It also relies heavily on an ability to flood a defense with more receivers than they can handle.
    Sanchez needs to make quick decisions and throw the ball into high traffic areas which means a high degree of accuracy is needed. With his inability to read defenses and horrendous accuracy that probably means picks galore.

    WCO needs a smart and accurate QB. Sanchez is neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetstream23 View Post
    What's up with Sundquist tweeting about this? Wasn't he a candidate for Jets GM?

    Interesting points he makes.

    The Jets are clearly trying to salvage Mark Sanchez.
    Link please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne View Post
    accuracy is needed for all "offenses" but WCO is a great fit for Sanchez

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    the bold part are the strengths of Sanchize
    Another SUCKCHEZ fan has his say!

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    And what about this part?



    Sanchez needs to make quick decisions and throw the ball into high traffic areas which means a high degree of accuracy is needed. With his inability to read defenses and horrendous accuracy that probably means picks galore.

    WCO needs a smart and accurate QB. Sanchez is neither.
    If you read some of the posts made by his few supporters on JI you'd think that Sanchez was a great QB but misunderstood. He is capable of all great things that JOE MONTANA experienced in the WCO because---- they say so!

  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by RMJK View Post
    Maybe there's more money in New York. Maybe his home is in this area.
    Andy and Marty are friends so I wonder if Marty pulled a Mike Pettine. Maybe wanting to get out from under his own friend's shadow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath View Post
    Why didnt andy reid bring morningwig to KC with him?
    ....because Andy Reid wanted to return to calling offensive plays himself. Which he announced at his press conference.

    His OC is former NFL backup Doug Pederson, who was Reid's QB coach in Philly the last 2 years, and has zero experience being a Offensive Co-Ordinator at any level. He'll be learning the ropes on the job, while Reid does the heavy lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montana View Post
    ....because Andy Reid wanted to return to calling offensive plays himself. Which he announced at his press conference.

    His OC is former NFL backup Doug Pederson, who was Reid's QB coach in Philly the last 2 years, and has zero experience being a Offensive Co-Ordinator at any level. He'll be learning the ropes on the job, while Reid does the heavy lifting.
    Reid stripped himself of playcalling in 2006 and Marty took over. Eagles broke team records from 06 to 12. I also think, Marty wants to get out from under Reid's shadow much the same way, Mike Pettine wants to do the same with Rex. No these are not fat jokes.lol

  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet View Post
    Another SUCKCHEZ fan has his say!
    lol

    he blew chunks this year and i am not defending his play but just a matter of preference to call him sanchize than suckchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by w0mbat View Post
    And what about this part?



    Sanchez needs to make quick decisions and throw the ball into high traffic areas which means a high degree of accuracy is needed. With his inability to read defenses and horrendous accuracy that probably means picks galore.

    WCO needs a smart and accurate QB. Sanchez is neither.
    No problem we already have a perfect fit for WCO...McElroy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TebowCan'tThrow View Post
    No problem we already have a perfect fit for WCO...McElroy!!
    Took the words right out of my mouth!

    But seriously Sanchez can't perform much worse than he did last year and some of his problems were a result of not matching up an offense to help him succeed. He will get one last chance to be a starting QB in a WCO. If he does poorly again he will be gone, but the Jets have many holes to fill and they won't be getting a new QB with the contract they are stuck with in Sanchez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet View Post
    Link please!
    Link to what? That Sundquist was a GM candidate?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...y-mueller-too/

    Or to the tweets....

    https://twitter.com/Ted_Sundquist

    Ted Sundquist ‏@Ted_Sundquist
    Taking EVERYTHING & EVERYONE interviewed into account, Marty Mornhinweg a good selection for OC of the #JETS.
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    Ted Sundquist ‏@Ted_Sundquist
    #MartyMornhinweg has overseen 10 Top 10 passing attacks, 9 total OFF, as an OC or QB coach. That includes 5 different QB's. #Jets
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    Last edited by jetstream23; 01-18-2013 at 11:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetstream23 View Post
    Link to what? That Sundquist was a GM candidate?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...y-mueller-too/

    Or to the tweets....

    https://twitter.com/Ted_Sundquist
    That they are 'clearly trying to salvage Sanchez'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinny Testaverde's Niece View Post
    That they are 'clearly trying to salvage Sanchez'.
    Ah, my bad.

    Maybe it's not that clear but I think this choice of OC in Mornhinweg is a sign they want to shift towards an offense that favors Sanchez's strengths of moving the pocket, rollouts and throwing on the run.

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