Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 41

Thread: Take away Brady and the Pats are a perennial loser...

  1. #21
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    3,016
    Post Thanks / Like
    Take away the Sanchize, and the Jets go 10-6.

  2. #22
    Waterboy
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    67
    Post Thanks / Like
    What??? Are all of you, who responded in the negative, teenagers or complete homers? Face up to the fact that the Pats, albeit the Jets nemesis, are far superior in EVERY way to the Jets! THAT'S the first step on the road to redemption, but it's the first step that has not been taken in what, 40 plus years????? But you all cling to this imaginary hope. Absolutely crazy homers.

  3. #23
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    6,020
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski View Post
    Take away the Sanchize, and the Jets go 10-6.
    I agree...

    if you subtract the Sanchez TO machine with a decent QB...Jets make the playoffs.

    But if you subtract Brady from the Pats. And replace him with only a decent non TO machine QB. Then the Pats decline would be very noticeable.

  4. #24
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Durham, CA
    Posts
    8,474
    Post Thanks / Like
    This is absolutely ridiculous.

    How many seasons are we going to take it back here? The Patriots of 2011, and 2012 were light year, eon light years ahead of the Jets. This is crazy.

    All this take away, minus this, subtracted by this, multiplied by this, its all just poppycock. The Patriots would beat the Jets 8 out of 10 times this season or last season.

  5. #25
    Hall Of Fame
    Charter JI Member

    Join Date
    May 1999
    Location
    Manalapan, NJ/Boca Raton, Fl
    Posts
    14,795
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanchez 3:16 View Post
    Take away Montana and the Niners are a perennial loser.
    Which of course was proven when S Young replaced Montana

  6. #26
    Hall Of Fame
    Charter JI Member

    Join Date
    May 1999
    Location
    Manalapan, NJ/Boca Raton, Fl
    Posts
    14,795
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by dco20 View Post
    What??? Are all of you, who responded in the negative, teenagers or complete homers? Face up to the fact that the Pats, albeit the Jets nemesis, are far superior in EVERY way to the Jets! THAT'S the first step on the road to redemption, but it's the first step that has not been taken in what, 40 plus years????? But you all cling to this imaginary hope. Absolutely crazy homers.
    Just curious, when someone says they wouldn't be the same without Brady, or that Bellichich is over rated, what do the Jets have to do with that statement? How does where the Jets stack up against them change the premise?

    Oh, it doesn't.

  7. #27
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Posts
    1,694
    Post Thanks / Like
    The truth is, on August 3rd Tom Brady is going to be 36 years old.



    Wouldn't be surprised if Belichick it thinking "trade" here... How much longer can he get out of this player? And how much could he get for him from some team like Kansas City? If Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, and Joe Namath could be traded at the end of their careers so can the great Tom Brady. His days are certainly numbered. If Belichick is smart he'll move Brady before the draft and start looking for the next best thing.

  8. #28
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    SoFla
    Posts
    17,982
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by billygreen View Post
    The truth is, on August 3rd Tom Brady is going to be 36 years old.



    Wouldn't be surprised if Belichick it thinking "trade" here... How much longer can he get out of this player? And how much could he get for him from some team like Kansas City? If Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, and Joe Namath could be traded at the end of their careers so can the great Tom Brady. His days are certainly numbered. If Belichick is smart he'll move Brady before the draft and start looking for the next best thing.
    1) The Pats would never, ever, EVER trade the guy who single-handily made them a dynasty. He still has a few good years left in him.

    2) Peyton Manning wasn't traded, he was released. Ditto for Namath.

    Other than that, solid point.

  9. #29
    Jets Insider VIP
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Paris, France
    Posts
    12,780
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski View Post
    Take away the Sanchize, and the Jets go 10-6.

  10. #30
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    6,538
    Post Thanks / Like
    they traded richard seymour, didn't they? he's still playing at a high level. the problem is that brady probably has a no trade clause and his high price makes him unaffordable to any team that might want him.

    Quote Originally Posted by 10PennyToColes87 View Post
    1) The Pats would never, ever, EVER trade the guy who single-handily made them a dynasty. He still has a few good years left in him.

    2) Peyton Manning wasn't traded, he was released. Ditto for Namath.

    Other than that, solid point.

  11. #31
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    16,710
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by AFCEastFan View Post
    I was at the game too. They lost in an overtime barnburner to a Jets team that soon hit 8-3 and had everyone here (justifiably) having Super Bowl dreams. And now this is evidence that going 11-5 with Matt Cassell at the helm was not a huge accomplishment?
    missing the playoffs is a huge accomplishment??


    what are you, a Jets fan??

  12. #32
    All Pro
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    5,178
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtstar View Post
    missing the playoffs is a huge accomplishment??


    what are you, a Jets fan??
    LOL. But if you saw Cassell play this season, you'd wonder how a team could even win one game with him, let alone 11.

  13. #33
    Hall of Fame
    Charter JI Member

    Join Date
    May 1999
    Posts
    16,334
    Post Thanks / Like
    Who really cares! All you morons who keep bringing up the Pats are just jealous fans.

    This is nothing new with all HOF coaches. You show me a HOF coach and 95%of the time I'll show you the HOF QB he coached.

    What sets Belly apart when you look at HOF coaches is to take a look at the rest of the rosters. Some of these HOF coaches not only had HOF QBs but other HOF players. Pats only had Brady and keep winning with marginal players around him.

  14. #34
    All League
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Boston area
    Posts
    4,471
    Post Thanks / Like
    What would Green Bay be without Rodgers?
    How would the Saints be without Brees?
    What was Miami like after Marino retired?


    You can make that argument against any team with a great QB and disgusie it as insightful football knowledge.

  15. #35
    Jets Insider VIP
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    13,179
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Slikmojet View Post
    Belichick is the most overrated coach in NFL hiatory. His supposed genius is his defensive forte but his defenses rank near the bottom of the league every year, remove Brady from this team and they are nothing.
    Put your mom at LT and Keep Brady and Belichick teams are nothing.

  16. #36
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    9,456
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by billygreen View Post
    The truth is, on August 3rd Tom Brady is going to be 36 years old.



    Wouldn't be surprised if Belichick it thinking "trade" here... How much longer can he get out of this player? And how much could he get for him from some team like Kansas City? If Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, and Joe Namath could be traded at the end of their careers so can the great Tom Brady. His days are certainly numbered. If Belichick is smart he'll move Brady before the draft and start looking for the next best thing.
    You're forgetting that gay men age more gracefully. Brady is still a young stud for Belichick.

  17. #37
    All League
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    3,706
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    11-5 with Matt Cassel at Qb in 2008. Belichick is a great coach. A suspect GM/player picker however.
    And Rex Ryan went 11-5 with Sanchez. Does that make Rex a great coach?

  18. #38
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    South Bound Brook
    Posts
    1,901
    Post Thanks / Like
    I still believe if you take Bellichek away from Brady you have a scrub QB. I think Bellichek is a scumbag, cheating exploiter low life, but he is a machine when it comes to football.

  19. #39
    Jets Insider VIP
    Charter JI Member

    Join Date
    May 1999
    Location
    Naples FL
    Posts
    42,999
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by AFCEastFan View Post
    I was at the game too. They lost in an overtime barnburner to a Jets team that soon hit 8-3 and had everyone here (justifiably) having Super Bowl dreams. And now this is evidence that going 11-5 with Matt Cassell at the helm was not a huge accomplishment?
    I think the Fins doing the same with Chaddy cakes as QB was bigger because they were 1-15 the year before..

  20. #40
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    2,315
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Slikmojet View Post
    Belichick is the most overrated coach in NFL hiatory. His supposed genius is his defensive forte but his defenses rank near the bottom of the league every year, remove Brady from this team and they are nothing.
    If Belicheck didn't have a QAB I can assure you he would be dumping money, players, and time into that Defense and they would be right there at the top. His D's always play well enough when they need to. He has an elite QB and has been pouring picks and FA money into surrounding him with a solid OL and weapons. Belicheck understands you play to your strengths and will sacrifice defense if need be. NE's problem is Brady is starting to really **** the bed when it's all on the line and he's facing any type of adversity. You can almost tell immediately within the 1st quarter if he's going to be bad. Even though the Pats were winning at halftime I still could sense that they were not playing well and could be easily beaten, and they were.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Follow Us