Sanchez should be cut, Rex should be fired, this team should do whatever is necessary to get Matt Moore or Jason Campbell in here to start this season. Eat the cap hit this year and blow up this terrible Roster.
Trade Revis and your first rounder this year at the draft for a team's first next year and a 2, or a 3 and 4 this year.
Locking up Revis for life is incredibly stupid considering that this team is going to need 3-4 years to turn it around. Holmes needs to come off the payroll before that happens.
I'm sick of all this optimism. Look at this roster. Compare it to San Francisco's. Compare it to the Patriots. Compare it to the Giants.
There's probably 3 guys on this team that anybody else would want: Mangold, Cro and possibly Revis. The rest of the roster can go rot outside of the young D-line.
Blow it up and give this new GM some leeway with being awful for a few years. Maybe then the stupid media hype machine will stop over-analyzing every breath of this team.
Switch one player, the QB, with any of those teams, and we're better.Look at this roster. Compare it to San Francisco's. Compare it to the Patriots. Compare it to the Giants.
Simple as that. We don't need to blow up anything. We need a better QB, running a better offensive system, with a few select new pieces to improve areas of weakness. "Blow it up" is a simpletons answer to a complicated situation.
Mark Sanchez lost five games this season with a QB rating lower than what McElroy earned in the loss against San Diego. As bad as McElroy was in his very first NFL start, Mark Sanchez was much worse in 5 games with 3 years under his belt.
While there isn't much data to go on for the backup QBs, Sanchez comes up in last place among the three in completion %, passer rating and rushing avg (1.3yds - remember his "mobility"?). Same garbage players etc., but the other guys did better. Sanchez does manage 2nd place in passing avg. Woo hoo!
There's nothing complicated about the situation:
Only the D-line, CB, and Center have anything remotely close to a decent talent level.
WR is full of crap. RB is AWFUL. And the entire Linebacking corps are bad simply because of the amount of money David Harris is making. There's not a single one of them that is above average. Harris included.
The roster is littered with overpaid players:
And now we're talking about retaining a CB coming off an ACL who refuses to have any connection to reality that CB'S DON'T WIN SUPER BOWLS. Then we factor in that our Head Coach has no understanding on how to have a successful offense whatsoever. Most of his decisions are predicated upon making his defense look good or look less bad. Nothing is based upon the offense being the most important part of a football team, AS IS REALITY.
Count me back in the Same ole camp at this point. There's nothing to be excited about. They can't even admit to their fan base that they've royally screwed just about everything possible up. They've drafted poorly outside of the defensive line. Which ironically all the head coach seemingly understands.........
Talk about acceptance of eternal mediocrity. Yay, we exchanged the worst QB of the past four years with one of the worst QB's of the past what, seven years?
Maybe, for once, we should be aiming a little higher than recycling the Moore's and Campbell's, the castoff journeyman JAG's, of the NFL, eh?
With that said, one JAG is often the same as another JAG. And Campbell is as JAGerific as they come, a multipe unwanted benched failure in this league.
If we're going to "bring in a guy" lets bring in a Draft Pick with legitimate potential. Not another Boomer-esque castoff from the trashheap of abandoned journeymen Quarterbacks.
As it is, I do not yet believe that Idzik will move Sanchez, and if we don't move Sanchez....whats the point. 2 Jags are not better than one Jag.
That's my point. And even if Campbell is a JAG, he's still a better backup than this team has had in YEARS. Dating back to Ray Lucas. Assuming Idzik can actually get this team a real QB prospect instead of another "Sanchez is there at 5, pick now!" and pretending another POS from USC will ever pan out in the NFL.
Moore, I could maybe get behind. Maybe. But not Campell.
Is Patrick Ramsey still in the league?
If they make that trade then this team wins the Super Bowl in 2009. I have no qualms saying that.
Instead of Sanchez you get the big, physical, game-manager type QB you wanted and Washington is stuck with Buttchez.
Then that team is likely good for 10 wins without a defense that is required to play perfect every single down and Thomas Jones could be somewhat healthy by the end of the year. Meaning no DOA when Greene gets hurt in the Colts game.
Last edited by PMarsico9; 01-28-2013 at 02:40 PM.
I am with SAR in the 2% of folks that dont blame Sanchez and accept reality and relevance as a Jet fan. I think there is a lot in play here. Most Jet fans (just the nature of NY sports), like Stephen A Smith have an approach of "what have you done for me lately", and if you have failed, time to move forward with somebody else. Remeber Giant fans wanted Eli's head in year 4 right before he caught lightning in a bottle and went on a SB run.
If you have been a long-sufferring Jet fan with crap QB play between the 80s/90s (exception of 1998 with Vinny), then you welcomed in the relevance of Pennington - I certainly did with open arms. I also hated Tanny for cutting him and bringing in Favre. Then you see Sanchez come in and get us to within 30 mins of a SB, twice in two straight years. I welcome that relevance. Ok yes, he then had 8-8 and 6-10 seasons with absolute crap on his team, thanks to Tanny turning all of our playmakers away.
Nevermind the QB ratings, I care about wins. He was never going to be Brady or Manning, good luck finding that, it doesnt happen easily. The NFL fan has changed from back i the 80s and 90s of being a decent QB and having a long leash - i blame that on fantasy football. Now everyone wants Brady, Manning or Rodgers, or else you burn him at the stake. Needs to put up unreal stats or else! Ok good luck finding a better alternative. "Matt Flynn rules!" - um, one game? Id rather have a guy who can get us to 30 mins of a SB.
Jet management is totally to blame for Sanchez' demise, and it ends there. No help or support whatsoever. Remember Sanchez was king of the world and 3-0 as a Jet with Cotchery, Clowney and Stuckey before the Braylon trade. Jet management kept tweaking and tweaking and turning and churning - no chemistry built to help this kid play to his strengths. Brad Smith, Leon Washington and Cotchery were 3 of our biggest playmakers and we dumped them all, and bring in Tebow and Plax and Mason and Schillens, and more garbage.
Heres to appreciating relevance and being optimistic about Sanchez in 2013, I think if we are smart this offseason, we help surround him and resurrect his career.
i care about the jets winning games and having chemistry. i dont care he didnt have 60% comp. Does it suck he doesnt? Yeah it does, he should be above 60%. But he isnt. on the brighter side, he can get us to 30 mins of a SB. There are tons of QBs that are way above 60% that will never get to one. I dont care about fantay stats, i want wins for the team. ill take a QB who can outplay and beat brady, manning, rivers and palmer, all on the road, all in first two years of playoffs. most QBs cant do that.