The limiting factor will not be the value placed on CB, it will be on how much money he wants in the end.
Also for a position that is not relevant as other positions here are the draft stats the last 5 years.
2012 - 3 1st rounders, 6,10,17
2011 - 3 1st rounders, 5,19,27
2010 - 5 1st rounders, 7,20,27,29,32
2009 - 2 1st rounders, 14,15
2008 - 5 1st rounders, 11,16,20,25,27
18 first rounders in the last 5 years on CB's
QB - 15
RB - 15
WR - 15
Btw AP weighs 220
His workouts in AZ following his junior season were all in the same range (4.39 to 4.40.)
If you don't think his speed has something to do with how good he is, you are need to maybe go get some text books on football.
Revis is technically flawless as a CB, but that does not change the fact that he is extremely fast. Champ Bailey is also technically flawless. Where was he on that play that knocked Denver out of the playoffs?
Especially considering he did nothing but lift upper body while his knee healed.
The listed player weights are a joke. Just like Sanchez is 6'0", not 6'2". I saw him IRL up close, he's an inch or two taller than me. He is nowhere near 6'2".
A running back is lifting heavy weight repeatedly for bulk and explosion. A CB is attempting to get strong without bulk. It's night and day.Ok, I'll play...what about the 'mechanics of playing Running Back and CB' make this different?
The mechanics are completely different at the position. A CB is not lifting or training to be a better hitter. A CB is simply trying to maintain speed and elasticity to be as strong as he can be within his own natural dimensions.
A RB will look like Quadzilla in real life, and in AP's case, be an overall absolute physical freak is more concerned with overall strength to be able to absorb contact and maintain balance than the ability to stay step-in-step with a guy running 50 yard posts and fly patterns.
Remember when Moss had him pull up lame after his holdout? Well guess what, people started stretching him after that. The difference was that the other side was more of an option to pass to back then than it has been since Cro arrived.
I'm pretty much done arguing this.
Revis has been great. But he is not worth what he is asking. No defensive player is. Cromartie is still superior to almost everybody but Revis.
Hell even the the two "awesome big CB's" in Seattle got caught juicing.
Cro will never hold out. He will never ask for $16-18 million a year. He can't afford to.
Nobody will pay him that. That above all else makes him better to keep than Revis. That and the fact that he's healthy.
If a team has cap space and Revis ask for some totally ungodly amount for an extension coming off an injury a deal is very viable. If he asks for too much the Jets will have to hold on to him and he will be in for a rude surprise when he tries to hit the mother load via FA after this year.
What the Jet fan has to accept what is better getting even Alex Smith or letting Revis leave in FA and getting a late third rounder in 2015.(possible might not get anything if Jets sign a big name free agent in 2014.
Which one would you rather have.
Have said it a million times. First team that offers a first rounder jump at that offer, and pray Revis will sign with that team. This tanny blunder had to be the biggest reason why he isn't a general manager anymore.
Last edited by Raider9175; 02-04-2013 at 06:04 PM.
that being said, i am against trading Revis. i'd rather the Jets focus on trading Cro, whose value is at its highest, and try to work out an extension with Revis.
For all we know Revis has no intention signing with anyone till 2014. I don't know if that is the case , but if that is the case does it really matter what you can get for him. You think the raiders wanted to take the third rounder for randy Moss (from the patriots)- what choice did they have.
Again If I was in your position I would be praying that Revis was willing to sign with your team, or willing to sign with team that trades for him. Without that your just up the creek without a paddle.
Again the blunder to give up the franchise tag took away the Jets ability to have a say what happens with Revis.
2014- Revis in FA signs with the Miami Dolphins. How much does he save in taxes. How would that make Jet fans feel.
Last edited by Raider9175; 02-04-2013 at 06:59 PM.
Believe me every coach in the league would be falling all over the jets to trade for revis if he made 8 mill a year for the next 5 years, and was not coming of and acl injury. 2 #1s in the 20s and even a young starter would not be out of the question for a team desperate enough. 28 yo or not.
But what is almost as unreasonable as Tex's statement was jet fans thinking there is a huge market for him out there now for him, a market so strong that teams will be willing to pay him 15 mill a year for 5 years and give him 35mill before he puts a uniform on to prove he can still play. yes, Peterson and Welker came back within one year and still played at a high level, but other guys don't and most guys the first year back are not close to 100 percent. then throw in the bad cases like Foxworth and Terrel Thomas both of whom may never play again because of the acl injury.
I posted many times, he needs to stay with the jets, he is worth more to the jets than any other team. I love Revis, I just don't see the value of a corner at that salary
Last edited by patman; 02-04-2013 at 07:20 PM.