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    Quote Originally Posted by rajensen088 View Post

    Geno Smith might not be there at #9 therefore Matt Barkley might be Itzak's preferred choice at QB.
    Another USC QB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Another USC QB?
    I hope you were your mother's only child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeejet22 View Post
    I'm confused. You wrote "we need a RT." Did you mean a "RG"?
    Actually I did. I just re-read my post.

    No coffee today.....

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    I'll file this thread in the "No Sh!t, Sherlock" folder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourceworx View Post
    I hope you were your mother's only child.
    TX's brother was also an only child

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustykeller View Post
    I'll file this thread in the "No Sh!t, Sherlock" folder.
    Actually, the Jets haven't built through the draft in many years. We hit on a high percentage of players drafted, and that sustained us. Think about how many picks we actually had, and how many we traded away.

    Tanny didn't value later round picks like Seattle does.

    We'll see. We all want a better team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_0515 View Post
    Actually, the Jets haven't built through the draft in many years. We hit on a high percentage of players drafted, and that sustained us. Think about how many picks we actually had, and how many we traded away.

    Tanny didn't value later round picks like Seattle does.

    We'll see. We all want a better team.
    I understand that.

    My comment was in reference to knowing that Idzik's drafting philosophy is the polar opposite of Tannenbaum's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustykeller View Post
    I'll file this thread in the "No Sh!t, Sherlock" folder.
    EA wrote "Idzik won’t look for a quick fix. The Jets will value their draft picks and it would not surprise me to see them stockpile a few here in the future.

    Tanny didn't value the entire draft, so i wouldn't file it there just yet.

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    at least it appears we won't be handing out draft picks like penny candy to other teams

    (no problem, Elway, we'll give you TWO draft picks for your rubbish)

    or to our coaches...


    fourth round -- OK Rex, that one is YOUR pick


    fifth and sixth round -- Westy, those are YOUR picks

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustykeller View Post
    I understand that.

    My comment was in reference to knowing that Idzik's drafting philosophy is the polar opposite of Tannenbaum's.
    100% it is. The Giants, Packers, and Steelers also follow that model.

    Hmmmm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_0515 View Post
    Actually, the Jets haven't built through the draft in many years. We hit on a high percentage of players drafted, and that sustained us. Think about how many picks we actually had, and how many we traded away.

    Tanny didn't value later round picks like Seattle does.

    We'll see. We all want a better team.
    Good points. Later round draft picks build depth and there is always the chance of finding a "diamond in the rough".

    Over the last 5 years, the Jets have had the fewest draft picks of any team in the NFL:

    2012- 8
    2011- 6
    2010- 4
    2009- 3
    2008- 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Good points. Later round draft picks build depth and there is always the chance of finding a "diamond in the rough".

    Over the last 5 years, the Jets have had the fewest draft picks of any team in the NFL:

    2012- 8
    2011- 6
    2010- 4
    2009- 3
    2008- 5
    Exactly. And they were lucky to have the success they've had with those few picks.

    The scouting for the Jets has been "not so good" in the last 4-5 years. They need to find a different process for that, and have many picks to add depth, and perhaps find a nice starter or two.

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    disagree about the scouting 0515

    I think it was a problem strictly of a GM who had a lower than required regard for draft picks and was willing to give them away like trinkets to coach choices and for trade ups and trades for players like tebow when it wasn't necessary and actually hurt the team by diluting their draft every year

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    disagree about the scouting 0515

    I think it was a problem strictly of a GM who had a lower than required regard for draft picks and was willing to give them away like trinkets to coach choices and for trade ups and trades for players like tebow when it wasn't necessary and actually hurt the team by diluting their draft every year
    I think I was comparing it to the Mangini years, where hitting on draft picks was every year (except for Gholston).

    We also didn't benefit from having a dysfunctional team the last couple of years. I'm sure that stunted a few rookies' (and one QB's) growth.

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    Idzik Will Build Through the Draft

    Wow. Wake me in July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borgoguy View Post
    Idzik Will Build Through the Draft

    Wow. Wake me in July.
    Draft is in April doe, Borg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeejet22 View Post
    Everything you say I agree with, except I feel Austin Howard is a keeper.

    I'm ok with them passing on the QB's, and waiting until 2014 Draft to address it. I'd hate to see them draft one in the 2nd-3rd Round, just to see them pass on one in 2014 because they think they addressed it.

    By Position, I wouldn't mind something like this:

    1 OLB
    2 RB
    3 WR
    4 OG
    5 TE
    6 OL
    7 S
    I agree with your list though if the right WR is there in 2 (as in DeAndre Hopkins) I would take Wr in 2 and Eb in 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    I agree with your list though if the right WR is there in 2 (as in DeAndre Hopkins) I would take Wr in 2 and Eb in 3.
    That's fine.

    Also, the Jets will be very tempted to take a QB in the top three rounds. The only way Idzy should is if he trades down a couple of times in the first few round, and accumulates a couple of more early picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGinley View Post
    Draft is in April doe, Borg.
    I know. I don't care until all the guys we've drafted report to camp and start performing (or tanking). Until then, no one knows squat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borgoguy View Post
    I know. I don't care until all the guys we've drafted report to camp and start performing (or tanking). Until then, no one knows squat.
    So, you're saying that you're a fan of early mock drafts?

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