Sanchez's first four years.2005
GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT
9 84 165 50.9 875 5.30 1 47 11 9 -- 40.8
16 257 442 58.1 2,890 6.54 16 75 16 6 -- 74.8
7 94 193 48.7 914 4.74 2 45 4 6 -- 57.2
11 225 372 60.5 2,350 6.32 18 73 12 3 40.2 81.5
Don't really see the validity of comparing Smith's 7th year in the league to Sanchez's rookie and second years. Not that Sanchez is any good. But neither is Smith.2009
GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT
15 196 364 53.8 2,444 6.71 12 65 20 8 31.6 63.0
16 278 507 54.8 3,291 6.49 17 74 13 5 48.0 75.3
16 308 543 56.7 3,474 6.40 26 74 18 4 33.6 78.2
15 246 453 54.3 2,883 6.36 13 66 18 9 23.4 66.9
1st this is a rediculous trade. The 49ers can't afford him -period. And quit thinking that all you get is 2 late #1s
Think of the trade this way, the jets get 2 draft picks pf the quality of pick 30 in this years draft go on a top 100 list and pick two players later than 30, yes you have to wait one year, But say this year you pick Barret Jones and
DJ Fluker and fix the oline.
Revis (with 15 mill cap hit) vs Fluker, (1 mil) Barret Jones,(1mil) Delanie Walker (4 mill) Landry (5.5 mil) Matt Moore (3.5 mill) total 15 mil
You don't just fix 2 positions with the picks, you get to fix 3 more with the extra 13mil dollars
Harbaugh is an excellent qb developer and did a great job with Kaepernick. Smith was garbage before Harbaugh and will be garbage after Harbaugh. I'd rather just stick with Suckchez or trade a mid-round pick for Flynn.
Jets fans' logic: Every Jets QB sucks and is easily surpassed by other teams' backups and our own 3rd string QB's like Rat/Clemens/Ainge
Smith's production is much better than average because he has a much better than average team, but it is not like he is Sanchez.
But along that line, you dont have an issue comparing the two when Sanchez had the benefit of playing with a much better team than Smith did for his 1st 4 years.
Mark Sanchez never had as good a supporting cast on offense than Alex Smith had his last 3-4 years in the NFL and you cannot compare Jim Harbaugh QB guru to duds like Brian Schittenheimer and Tony Soprano. Harbaugh and that star-studded offense would make Ryan Leaf look decent.
I have no problem with fans being upset about Sanchez regressing last year, and being an overall disappointment when it seemed he as on a path to be excited about after his first two years, but I just don't get what seems to be obsessive hatred for the player, and a complete unwillingness to debate not only the facts, but any discussion that quite possibly Sanchez could be saved by Mornhineg, just as Smith was by Harbaugh, a player that many Sanchez haters seem to support, which is all just mindboggling.
Sanchez was the worst QB in the NFL this year who made the majority of his teams starts.
Again, I am not claiming Smith will be a savior. I don't even want him. But he would be a clear upgrade at the position.
Comparing Smith's career to Sanchez' first four years is completely valid, both top draft picks, both who had slow starts. In Sanchez, he started off far better than Smith, winning 4 playoff games, where Smith was a complete bust right away.
Smith has finally put things together, still hasn't played to the potential of his draft selection, but is otherwise a solid NFL QB, it remains to be seen what Sanchez becomes, but it's not unfathomable that a change in offensive scheme and a complete commitment to the passing game, both in terms of philosophy as well as the supporting cast around him on the roster can help Sanchez as it seemed to do with Smith, they are both very valid, and very comparable, especially since Smith is a topic of discussion as a player that the Jets could consider bringing to the team as competition for Sanchez.
The way you Jets fans overrate Alex Smith and Matt Moore reminds me of the bad ol' days when 95% of Jets fans were ready to induct Kellen Clemens and Brett Ratliff into Canton and kick Chad to the curb. At least Matt Flynn is an unknown commodity any half-way knowledgeable football fan knows Alex Smith is a mediocre game-manager and in no way an upgrade over Suckchez.
You are completely ignoring Sanchez' early success in the playoffs in his first two years, an accomplishment Smith didn't even sniff until Harbaugh, in Smith's 6th season.
Definitely better than Sanchez? Sure, right now he might be, in his 8th year, but certainly NOT during his first 5 years.
Keep Revis now
Resign Revis after the season.
Alex Smith is garbage! Damn a "stop gap"
do some of you hear yourselves?
TWO first round picks AND a starting NFL QB that is better than Sanchez?
And you would say no.....
Thank God nobody here is running the Jets.
Last edited by CanadaSteve; 02-12-2013 at 11:48 AM.