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    @RayRice27: Dinner and a few nights on Joe Flacco when we get back well deserved #Ravens

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    Greg Cosell ‏@gregcosell
    Talking w/Pagano reinforced what I was told by many at Combine: Defensive coaches don't feel read option will be big issue once studied.

    At end of day still comes down to throwing. No one will be top level NFL QB because they run read option effectively. That won't change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Greg Cosell ‏@gregcosell
    Talking w/Pagano reinforced what I was told by many at Combine: Defensive coaches don't feel read option will be big issue once studied.

    At end of day still comes down to throwing. No one will be top level NFL QB because they run read option effectively. That won't change.
    BUT INTANGIBLES, DOE!

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    The Sports Teams With the Most – and Fewest – Twitter Followers

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000....html?mod=e2tw

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    surprised they let robinson go

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    Rich Cimini ‏@RichCimini
    Interesting stuff here RT “@MikeReiss: Football analytics leftovers from @SloanSportsConf. http://es.pn/ZTQzob

    Football leftovers from Sloan panel

    March, 2, 2013
    By Mike Reiss

    A few leftover thoughts from the football analytics panel at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference:

    1. What makes football unique when it comes to analytics? When moderator Andrea Kremer asked panelists if there were key measurables that correlate to performance, the discussion turned to what made football different from other sports in that regard. "There is so much in play with respect to the team's system ... there is so much covariance in a football game because there are so many other factors," said Rams executive vice president of operations/chief operating officer Kevin Demoff, who later added this is one reason that trades often times don't work out because the projection into a new system is a challenge. That point was echoed by former Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli. "What's seemingly different when you talk to people in different sports, one of the things we bump up against all the time in trying to be predictors through analytics, is that football is based on all these interdependent relationships," he said. "There are so many variables, whether it's playing surface, the weather, the environment. You're talking about 11 interdependent relationships, where a person's success on one play is so dependent on what someone else is doing, or not doing. It makes it really difficult to say, 'X, Y and Z are going to equal this.'"

    2. Knowing your own free agents & context of outside-the-meeting-room film evaluation. Pioli shared his opinion on why he feels that one of the most important parts of free agency is a team's evaluations of its own players. "That's the critical part because you are not going to know any player better than your own players; you're going to know what's great about them, and you're going to know all of their warts. It's an interesting thing when you read some of the analysis of people who are looking at tackles, for instance. They're saying 'they've only given up X number of sacks.' But truly, the only people that know how many sacks that tackle gave up are the coaches or the people who sit in the meetings and hear. Or the number of mental errors they make. Anyone who is just watching the game, they have no idea -- 'Was that a game plan where they were sliding things a certain way? Was it supposed to be a chip from the back? Was the tight end supposed to be in one place; did the tight end make a mental error?'"

    3. Wholesale vs. retail and the Patriots' replenishing the system. San Francisco 49ers chief operating officer Paraag Marathe delved into some of the salary-cap based analytics of building a team, saying: "Free agents and veterans are retail -- it's name your price. The draft is where it's wholesale. So that's why the more good players you can have on wholesale -- the more draft picks you can accumulate -- the better off you'll be. ... The difference between wholesale and retail is so wide that you have to figure out which players to keep and which players to let move on and churn out, because you have to continue to replenish the system. That's what Scott did so well at New England. They were the kings at replenishing and that's why they always stayed competitive and won Super Bowls despite the existence of a hard salary cap. When everyone else has ebbs and flows, the Patriots were consistently good."

    4. How having a head coach with solid job security benefits the Patriots. There was a good discussion on trades, and teams that deal a future draft pick in a higher round for a current-year pick. This has been an area in which the Patriots have been able to capitalize in Bill Belichick's tenure, and the reason was highlighted by the panel. Pioli touched on the patience that the Patriots practiced and how they were sometimes rewarded for it -- turning a seventh-round pick into a mid-round pick a few years later. While Pioli noted that point of view, which was rooted in Belichick knowing his job was secure, others on the panel pointed out a contrasting view: Sometimes a desperate team is running out of time. "One of the things that you hear come up today constantly is how long it takes, the arc of time for decisions to come true," Demoff said. "Trading down is great in theory, but it doesn't work when you have a coach in the next-to-last year of his contract, or when teams are starting to look at things and you feel like you're in your window. That's the great thing about trades; everyone has a different vantage point of what they need now. ... Ultimately if the time frame for decision-making and how things play out for head coaches and GMs keeps shrinking the way it has over the last few years, it's harder and harder to convince them to make good decisions. To a team that just missed the playoffs because they don't have a return man or they need speed, it looks like a lot different. That's where the trading teams find value."
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    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
    From last night >>> RT @NFL_ATL Titans' Jared Cook wants to be considered a WR if tagged. http://nfl.com/news/story/0ap

    Jared Cook's case for being tagged as a WR, not TE. Was flexed out 57%, used as a WR more than blocker. Difference is $4M. His case is ready


    very interesting!

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    @ConorTOrr: Finally some real news this offseason. RT @Mike_Vorkunov: Neil Glat says #nyj haven't had peace talks w/ Fireman Ed. Hopes he'll still come.

    @Mike_Vorkunov: Neil Glat says #Jets year or 2 away from real-time tech for in-stadium concession sales via phone apps. Could see "pre-ordering" from seats

    @Mike_Vorkunov: At fan analytics panel, reminder is that teams and corporations know more about you than you think and are hunting for more. #SSAC13

    @Mike_Vorkunov: 49ers COO said Tom Gamble, a south Jersey guy, left SF to get closer to home. Could explain why he was involved w/ #Jets & went to Eagles

    @Mike_Vorkunov: Polian says he had "soft landing" plan for Colts last spring: keep Peyton, draft his successor. How different things could've been #ssac13

    @Mike_Vorkunov: Bill Polian on coaches: "The more low key teachers they are, the longer they last." #SSAC13

    @Mike_Vorkunov: At @SloanSportsConf for next 2 days. So expect some sports nerd tweets. Should be immensely interesting & informative. #SSAC13

    daniel kaplan ‏@dkaplanSBJ
    next generation arena app at barclays center http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/nyregion/at-barclays-center-heightening-the-fan-experience.html?ref=nyregion …

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    @adbrandt: Chip Kelly on Nnamdi Asomugha: "As a person, I think he’s outstanding.” Translation: "As a player, I think he's way overpaid."

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
    From last night >>> RT @NFL_ATL Titans' Jared Cook wants to be considered a WR if tagged. http://nfl.com/news/story/0ap …

    Jared Cook's case for being tagged as a WR, not TE. Was flexed out 57%, used as a WR more than blocker. Difference is $4M. His case is ready


    very interesting!
    PFF broke out TEs per snap in their roles, and Hernandez was in the WR role about 60% of the time. Hernandez got a nice TE deal. Again, the Pats made out like bandits.

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    @NFL_ATL: Cowboys continue to overpay their own players http://t.co/HLvYZOdBC3

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    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
    So KC blew it up at deadline: long-term deals with WR Dwayne Bowe and P Dustin Colquitt and franchise tag for Branden Albert.

    Jason_OTC ‏@Jason_OTC
    Whats pretty impressive with the #Chiefs is even with all of this they can create over $20 million in cap by releasing Cassel and Jackson

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    @Gil_Brandt: Milliner now has shot at being first CB ever taken No. 1 overall. Not saying it will happen, but pieces falling into place. #NFLDraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    LOL. That's it. Rip it to spreads before knowing a thing about how it would be designed, executed and managed. Gawd I love this place.
    Thought I'd post this as it's related :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-21640720

    Starting small and planning to roll it out gradually. Think of how many people probably don't buy anything because of the queues / missing the game - take that away and the sales can go up big time. And you won't be needing to pay staff a lot to deliver burgers / hot dogs / beer to seats, so overall profits should go way up.

    And I agree about the points made about keeping people in their seats during the game ... drove me mad at the few games I've attended how so many people watched so little of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesR View Post
    Thought I'd post this as it's related :

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-21640720

    Starting small and planning to roll it out gradually. Think of how many people probably don't buy anything because of the queues / missing the game - take that away and the sales can go up big time. And you won't be needing to pay staff a lot to deliver burgers / hot dogs / beer to seats, so overall profits should go way up.

    And I agree about the points made about keeping people in their seats during the game ... drove me mad at the few games I've attended how so many people watched so little of the game.
    Mmmmmm....half-time pie. Bovril to wash it down with, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
    So KC blew it up at deadline: long-term deals with WR Dwayne Bowe and P Dustin Colquitt and franchise tag for Branden Albert.

    Jason_OTC ‏@Jason_OTC
    Whats pretty impressive with the #Chiefs is even with all of this they can create over $20 million in cap by releasing Cassel and Jackson
    Oh wow. I wonder if they cut Jackson and resign him for a better price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreshBaked 24 7 View Post
    Oh wow. I wonder if they cut Jackson and resign him for a better price?
    They will save 14.9 million and only have 2.5 million in dead money if they cut him. I think a heavy pay cut or release is pretty much a certainty. Plus they could draft Shariff Floyd to replace him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeejet22 View Post
    Looking for a CB, ATL?
    Revis for Julio Jones straight up

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    @FootballPost: Seahawks will try a hoops player at tight end: Seattle signs Darren Fells, brother of Patriots tight end http://t.co/d9qJ38pyW5

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    @ProFootballWkly: RT @MaryKayCabot: Browns will pursue Ravens' Paul Kruger, Detroit Lions' Cliff Avril in free agency, sources... http://t.co/lB69YDgFUk

    @caplannfl: Also look for the Browns to target one of these 3 QBs: Matt Moore, Brian Hoyer, or Chase Daniel. The last 2 have better arm strength.
    Last edited by C Mart; 03-06-2013 at 03:55 PM.

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