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    I love the "McCarron is a 5-7 rounder" guys. Said with such authority.

    The draft is pretty good, although I think getting both a second and third rounder this year for Mevis is far shot. I think a third this year and a first next would be realistic (but here's to hoping!). I'd do a few picks differently, but I would sign up for this draft if that's how it went down.

    I would, however, absolutely forego one of the later round guys and pick up Scott, QB from AZ. I've heard he's a 5th rnd kinda guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubrnostrum View Post
    I love the "McCarron is a 5-7 rounder" guys. Said with such authority.
    LOL, right?

    Hey, it's all just opinion, like the guys who think Geno is going to be great because he threw for 9 TDs against my HS team

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24 View Post
    You should watch more Bridgewater if you are not sold... He is projected to have a draft grade near Andrew Lucks.
    Come on man he is no where near Luck impressive. I watch a lot of Big East ball wasn't that impressed with him at all. People started talking about him late in the year and I was like what you have to be kidding me. He still has a long way to go. A lot of potential and a nice arm but he isn't running the offense like Luck or Barkley did. The O he runs always makes QBs look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStokes View Post
    LOL, right?

    Hey, it's all just opinion, like the guys who think Geno is going to be great because he threw for 9 TDs against my HS team

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    Here's what I would do:

    1st: Warmack
    2nd: Ogletree or Arthur Brown
    3rd a): FS Bacarri Rambo
    b): TE Travis Kelce (Revis trade)
    4th: RB LeVeon Bell
    5th: QB Matt Scott
    6th: WR Denard Robinson
    7th: DT Corey Grissom

    Not picking another interior o lineman scares me a bit, but Slausson (I don't think we keep Ducasse, but they're interchangeable to me) and schlauderoff need to step up.

    This draft is so very need-based, and I know that's a huge risk, but we're losing so much this year, I think we have to.

    I tried to pick contributors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStokes View Post
    My first ever mock. Cool story brah

    Jets trade Revis for a second and a third round pick in the 2013 Draft and a first round pick in 2014—not sure of the suitor, hoping Idzik figures that out . Love Revis the player, hate Revis the business man. I don’t begrudge him getting every penny he can, I just don’t have to like it. Will go down IMHO as the most detested great all-time Jet ever (edging our Keyshawn who was one of my favorites until forcing his way out).

    Don’t want 2 number ones this year from SF (or anyone), don’t even want ONE number this year if I can’t get a one next year—this is such a deep draft through the middle rounds that getting 1 or 2 extra first rounders doesn’t get you that much more value than a 2 and a 3 this year and a number 1 next year.

    My picks:

    1—Chance Warmack—If he’s there, this is a no-brainer. I want a massive dominating OLine so that the next QB of the Jets will have the luxury of a consistently clean pocket and a strong complimentary running game. Build the offense from the trenches. This guy steps in Day 1 and immediately improves the passing game and the run game.

    2(a)—Giovani Bernard—Perfect all-around back for the WCO, 3 down runner, pass catcher and good blocker, paired with Powell and McKnight will result in a solid running game. Over the next 2-3 years we’ll become a passing team with Mornhinweg, but that needs to be complimented with a solid run game—just like the Ravens and the 49ers.

    2(b)—Alex Okafor –Edge pass rusher that can also defend the run, prototypical size and skillset for a 3-4 OLB. All the top edge rushers are gone, but I’m not sold on the lot of them.

    3(a) Larry Warford—Stick him in between Brick and Mangold (even though he’s played mostly RG) and this line is impenetrable. Can play center too. Build from the trenches.

    3(b)—Robert Alford—small school CB with decent size and great speed to play opposite Cro. Honestly never heard of him before the Combine—but we need to keep Kyle Wilson out of the starting lineup.

    4—Shamarko Thomas—saw him play a lot this year—fast heat seeking missile that lays the wood at every opportunity. Insurance if Landry leaves. Combine time may move him up, face plant may move him down .

    5- Nico Johnson—can never have enough SEC/Alabama linebackers. Big and strong interior run-stuffer--nice ILB prospect. Have seen him go anywhere from round 4 to round 6. Likened to a young Bart Scott. Still don’t get some of the hate here for the Mad Backer, brought some nastiness and toughness to the team that got to the AFC Champ games based on a stout defense. He got hurt and old in a hurry—no reason to hate him.

    6—Denard Robinson—Jets take a flyer on a potential playmaker and an option behind Kerley to run the Wildcat. This guy won’t quit on his teammates and refuse the call. Jets still like getting a "name" player.

    7—Braden Brown—developmental OT from BYU. Worth a shot, could provide immediate depth at RT. Gotta love big dudes from BYU.

    Honestly not sold on the edge rushers that might be available at 9—either too small or maybe a project—no sure fire stud IMHO. That’s why I take the safe—yes, safety is what we need, we can’t afford to gamble on potential superstardom in hopes of landing the next LT—with Warmack. Also, hate the QBs this year--drafting a mistake just because you NEED a QB is still a m mistake--there is so much talent in this draft--let's restock all over the field rather than force something.


    And here’s where we start moving forward:

    2014 NFL Draft Round 1

    1(a)—A. J. McCarron—I don’t think we’re going to be picking 1 or 2 or even top 5, so Teddy Bridgewater and Clowney won’t be there for us. But I look at McCarron as the next Matt Ryan or maybe an Eli Manning type. 6-4, needs to add some bulk, above-average arm strength, perfect mechanics, very accurate, tall pocket passer, smart and—so important-- doesn’t turn the ball over. Some look at him as a game manager with an all-star supporting cast, and he does—but he’s also got the talent IMHO to be a top tier NFL QB. Not sure, however, how he’d translate to the WCO because while not a statue, he’s not a supremely mobile QB. Love Johnny Football, and as a little guy myself, I’d be a huge fan, but I don’t want a small guy back there—notwithstanding what Russell Wilson has done.

    1(b)—Marquise Lee--WR out of USC and say goodbye to Santonio Holmes.

    I was happy we drafted Sanchez, was happy with his rookie season and was absolutely looking forward to a bright future after 2010. But after the Baltimore game in 2011, I started to get a little queasy and tried to rationalize in my mind that the end of 2011 was due to his Oline play and him getting blasted. 2012 was, quite frankly, brutal in every respect for him and even the most ardent Sanchez supporter—which I am/was—can’t imagine this ending well. Maybe Marty can do miracles, but hope is not a strategy. And quite honestly, I don’t need a Kapernick or a Newton or a physical freak—I want a solid dropback QB that can hit open guys 10-15-20 yards down the field like he’s handing off to them. Give me A.J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    I am not too crazy about Warford. I think he has a bad body. Plus there is the Kentucky/D-Rob factor. Check out the guy with a similar last name, Earl Watford.
    I like this a lot, Stokes. Good job!

    I agree with DDNY on Watford being the guy to target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JStokes View Post

    1—Chance Warmack—If he’s there, this is a no-brainer. I want a massive dominating OLine so that the next QB of the Jets will have the luxury of a consistently clean pocket and a strong complimentary running game. Build the offense from the trenches. This guy steps in Day 1 and immediately improves the passing game and the run game.

    2(a)—Giovani Bernard—Perfect all-around back for the WCO, 3 down runner, pass catcher and good blocker, paired with Powell and McKnight will result in a solid running game. Over the next 2-3 years we’ll become a passing team with Mornhinweg, but that needs to be complimented with a solid run game—just like the Ravens and the 49ers.

    3(a) Larry Warford—Stick him in between Brick and Mangold (even though he’s played mostly RG) and this line is impenetrable. Can play center too. Build from the trenches.

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    That would certainly help improve our running game

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    I'd trade Revis for that.
    Pass; too many fans in front of me.

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    I could warm to the idea of AJ McCarron. He is better than I gave him credit for during the season. I do think he benefits from the supporting cast, but he's got a good deal of talent in his own right. Not taking a QB in this draft at all though is a bit bold. When you're bad at QB, you shouldn't go an entire draft without taking one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycdan View Post
    That would certainly help improve our running game
    That was the thought, but not in a "Ground and Pound" sort of way.

    Am so done with Rex's desire to try to ram it down teams throats with 3 yards and a cloud of ground up rubber--it just doesn't work in today's NFL, and we couldn't pull it off.

    I never want to return to the Thomas Jones' and Shonn Greenes' of the world diving into the backs of O-lineman and searching out contact rather than trying to avoid it once into the secondary. We need to become a passing team with a complimentary yet dynamic running game.

    I'd like to build a massive, dominating O-line to provide a clean pocket to the next Jet QB and to finally open up holes so we can consistently break off 6 and 8 and 10 and 15 yard gains that we haven't seen in what seems like forever.

    Think Ray Rice in Green and White.

    How'd that work out for Flacco?

    That's what I see in Gio Bernard with a big-ass line.

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