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  1. #581
    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    They are drafted as DB's which is more then 1 position safety/CB That's like saying D-linemen instead of DE/DT.. Last draft there were more DE's then DB's..
    What the hell are you talking about? "DBs" are drafted to be CB first and foremost, if they don't pan out or get old, they move to saftey. There is a reason why CBs are paid more than safteys even though there are more of them on NFL rosters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupa View Post
    not worth 1st round picks yet CBs are drafted in the first more often than most positions?
    It certainly seems that corners have been drafted a lot in the first, regardless of the positions importance there has been a move to 3 cb sets being the norm for 1/2 of the def snaps. The nickle back is practically a starter so you actually filling three positions on defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupa View Post
    What the hell are you talking about? "DBs" are drafted to be CB first and foremost, if they don't pan out or get old, they move to saftey. There is a reason why CBs are paid more than safteys even though there are more of them on NFL rosters.
    Landry was drafted with the 6 pick in the first rd in the same draft as Revis when did he play CB??

  4. #584
    Quote Originally Posted by Mainejet View Post
    I do believe it's time for Rex to start to find talent in the UDFA market. Part of the reason Rex got the NYJ job was because they touted he had a history of getting very important/integral guys off the scrap heap. Jim Leonhard comes to mind for one. leonhard to my knowledge was either a very late round draft pick or undrafted that came from Buffalo's practice squad. he became the QB of Rex's defense.

    Who knows? Maybe he thinks he's got something with Bush and Allen?
    First off, when did anyone claim that Rex was brought in because he was great at getting players off the scrap heap? He was never a GM or even head coach before he came here. There was never any indication that he was ever involved in player personel at Baltimore.

    I think you mean he was able to do more with players that came to him from the scrap heap on defense. Which I think is still true. Our defense has been very good since Rex got here and he has done great with "scrap heap" type players. For ex: Eric Smith/Leonard/Pace/Scott/Thomas/Devito/etc..

  5. #585
    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    Landry was drafted with the 6 pick in the first rd in the same draft as Revis when did he play CB??
    do you understand the concept of sample size? Just because a player got drafted high doesn't mean that his situation is an indicator for his entire position. How many CB's have been drafted in the 1st round in the last 5 years? How many Safteys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupa View Post
    do you understand the concept of sample size? Just because a player got drafted high doesn't mean that his situation is an indicator for his entire position. How many CB's have been drafted in the 1st round in the last 5 years? How many Safteys?
    My only point was they are drafted as DB's not CB's or Safety's..

  7. #587
    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    My only point was they are drafted as DB's not CB's or Safety's..
    The only thing that "DB" means is that person using it doesn't know if the guy is a CB or a safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    The only thing that "DB" means is that person using it doesn't know if the guy is a CB or a safety.
    Yet they seem to know who is a DE or a DT.. Otherwise it would be just D-Lineman wouldn't it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupa View Post
    do you understand the concept of sample size? Just because a player got drafted high doesn't mean that his situation is an indicator for his entire position. How many CB's have been drafted in the 1st round in the last 5 years? How many Safteys?
    Let's look

    2012-Safeties in first round-2. Highest, Mark Barron at 7th overall.
    -CB's in first round-3. Highest, Morris Claiborne 6th overall.

    2011-Safeties in first round-0.
    -CB's in first round-3. Highest, Patrick Peterson 5th overall.


    2010-Safeties in first round-2. Highest, Eric Berry at 5th overall.
    -CB's in first round-5. Highest, Joe Haden 7th overall.


    2009-Safeties in first round-0.
    -CB's in first round-2. Highest, Malcom Jennings at 14th overall.


    2008-Safeties in first round-1. Highest, Kenny Phillips at 31st overall.
    -CB's in first round-5. Highest, Leodis McKelvin at 11th overall.

    2007-Safeties in first round-4. Highest, Laron Landry at 6th overall.
    -CB's in first round-3. Highest, Darelle Revis at 14th overall.



    No dog in this fight, just thought you guys might want the stats. I did 6 years for you guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snell41 View Post
    Let's look

    2012-Safeties in first round-2. Highest, Mark Barron at 7th overall.
    -CB's in first round-3. Highest, Morris Claiborne 6th overall.

    2011-Safeties in first round-0.
    -CB's in first round-3. Highest, Patrick Peterson 5th overall.


    2010-Safeties in first round-2. Highest, Eric Berry at 5th overall.
    -CB's in first round-5. Highest, Joe Haden 7th overall.


    2009-Safeties in first round-0.
    -CB's in first round-2. Highest, Malcom Jennings at 14th overall.


    2008-Safeties in first round-1. Highest, Kenny Phillips at 31st overall.
    -CB's in first round-5. Highest, Leodis McKelvin at 11th overall.

    2007-Safeties in first round-4. Highest, Laron Landry at 6th overall.
    -CB's in first round-3. Highest, Darelle Revis at 14th overall.



    No dog in this fight, just thought you guys might want the stats. I did 6 years for you guys
    Well done Snell how did the DE's,DT's and LB'ers do in comparison?? If you can remember..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snell41 View Post
    Let's look

    2012-Safeties in first round-2. Highest, Mark Barron at 7th overall.
    -CB's in first round-3. Highest, Morris Claiborne 6th overall.

    2011-Safeties in first round-0.
    -CB's in first round-3. Highest, Patrick Peterson 5th overall.


    2010-Safeties in first round-2. Highest, Eric Berry at 5th overall.
    -CB's in first round-5. Highest, Joe Haden 7th overall.


    2009-Safeties in first round-0.
    -CB's in first round-2. Highest, Malcom Jennings at 14th overall.


    2008-Safeties in first round-1. Highest, Kenny Phillips at 31st overall.
    -CB's in first round-5. Highest, Leodis McKelvin at 11th overall.

    2007-Safeties in first round-4. Highest, Laron Landry at 6th overall.
    -CB's in first round-3. Highest, Darelle Revis at 14th overall.



    No dog in this fight, just thought you guys might want the stats. I did 6 years for you guys
    Thanks,

    21 CBs
    9 Safteys

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetPotato View Post
    I yam what I yam
    Sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupa View Post
    Thanks,

    21 CBs
    9 Safteys
    And in the same time frame 27 DE's were drafted I didn't bother counting the DT's..

  15. #595
    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    And in the same time frame 27 DE's were drafted I didn't bother counting the DT's..
    3-4,4-3 DE's are essentially two different positions that you're lumping in together. Regardless 21/27 is very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    Well done Snell how did the DE's,DT's and LB'ers do in comparison?? If you can remember..
    2012:

    DE-6 (Coples 16)
    DT-2 Dontari Poe 11)
    LB-3 (L Kuechly 9)

    2011:

    DE-6 (Aldon Smith 7)
    DT-6 (Marcel Dareus 3)
    LB-1 (Von Miller 2)

    2010:

    DE-4 (Brandon Graham 13)
    DT-5 (N Suh 2)
    LB-1 (Rolondo McLain 8)

    2009:

    DE-5 (Tyson Jackson 3)
    DT-2 (Peria Jerry 24)
    LB-4 (Aaron Curry 4)

    2008:

    DE-4 (Chris Long 2)
    DT-3 (Glenn Dorsey 5)
    LB-2 (Keith Rivers 9)

    2007:

    DE-5 (Gaines Adams 4)
    DT-2 (Amobi Okoye 10)
    LB-3 (Patrick Willis 11)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupa View Post
    3-4,4-3 DE's are essentially two different positions that you're lumping in together. Regardless 21/27 is very close.
    Sort of like Safety's and CB's??

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    Skimming through my vast memories of the draft over the last 6 years , I can't help but recall how sad it is that the Bills have practically had a top 10 pick in each of those years, yet they still continue to suck over and over and over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    Sort of like Safety's and CB's??
    not at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupa View Post
    not at all
    Bottom line is DB's were not the most drafted position..

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