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    Quote Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan View Post
    He has handled this situation very well. The idea that he HAS to trade Revis now is a fallacy created by the gossip columnists and talk show hosts in this area. Most of them have their narratives ready and want to talk or write about it as soon as possible. We live in an instant gratification society and the media loves to respond to feed that need.

    But if your interested in what is best for the franchise long term you have to love how Idzik is handling the situation. The sports/gossip columnists and talkies are only interested in creating big stories and bashing the Jets. The anti-Jets stories is like mining gold for them.
    Lets hope Woody feels the same way. He hasn't shown that capacity in the recent past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gastineau99 View Post
    False
    The team drafting them knows what they are but on the draft sheet it reads DB..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JETS2417 View Post
    How is trading your best player in any way shape or form in anyone's interest besides the team trading for him?

    I understand my rankings are skewed because I didn't see Namath, Maynard, etc play. But the fact is he is Deion level at Corner. Namath wasnt Montana or Manning. Maynard wasn't Rice or Calvin Johnson. That's not a knock on them they were HOF players. But Revis is, in my opinion, on a completely different level of play than they were at their positions. You can dislike the man, I can't say I liked all the holdout BS, but he fact remains we are a better team with Revis than unproven draft picks that we'll pray become 50% of the player he is.
    I said Revis was the best CB the Jets ever had but it seems your in the zone of some others here that thing Revis is in the same league as a franchise QB.. Look at all the other recent HOF CB's.. Most have been on 4 or 5 teams why do you think that is??

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    @SI_PeterKing: Tampa, IMO, will make the Jets an offer they will end up not refusing: http://t.co/Y6DSaes28o

    The Jets have a vexing problem with Darrelle Revis, but if GM John Idzik plays his cards right, he could at least partially save face for trading the franchise's best player by getting no less than first- and third-round draft choices from Tampa Bay for the problematic cornerback, a source close to the negotiations told SI.com.

    In fact, the source said, if the Jets are willing to take both picks in 2014, Tampa Bay would likely deal its first- and second-round picks for Revis, even though the Bucs are not sold that he can come back and be 100 percent after 2012 knee surgery.

    Three things are apparent in the wake of the NFL meetings in Arizona, where nothing got done between the Jets and Bucs on the Revis front: Tampa Bay is the only serious bidder for Revis. The ball is in the Jets' court on what to do next. And the Bucs aren't going to go much further, if at all, to try to get Revis.

    Tampa Bay GM Mark Dominik on Wednesday night and the Jets, through a team spokesman this morning, both declined comment on the fragile state of talks between the two teams.

    The Jets, in discussions with Tampa, have apparently been stuck on acquiring the Bucs' first-round pick this year, as well as an additional choice, which would likely come in next year's draft. That would give New York the ninth and 13th picks overall this year.

    But is that really the smartest way to go for the Jets? I don't think it is. I think it's much smarter for New York to try to get both Tampa picks in the 2014 draft, and to push for the Bucs' top two picks next season. With the likelihood that this is Rex Ryan's final season as head coach, and the certainty that New York will try one last time to make Mark Sanchez work at quarterback this year, it doesn't make much sense to draft a quarterback in the first round. What happens if the Jets pick, say, USC quarterback Matt Barkley, and the new coach next year -- if there is one -- isn't a Barkley guy? The Jets would be wiser to go for a 2014 first-rounder, giving the team two ones with the likelihood that the quarterback class would be stronger next year than this one. If they had to move up in the draft to get a passer, they'd have good ammunition.

    The Bucs, meanwhile, would be poised to sign Revis long-term. Lots of numbers have been floated in the press in recent days, but I'm told Tampa Bay would be willing to pay Revis somewhere in the neighborhood of $15 million per year (with no state taxes in Florida versus a big chunk in New Jersey). Revis has proven in the past he won't sit idly by if he feels he's getting less than he deserves. The Jets paid Revis $32 million in bonus and salary over the past two years, and are slated to pay him $6 million in 2013. So if Revis knows there's a team out there willing to pay him more than double what the Jets would this year, how do you think he's going to react to being on a sinking ship without his contract being re-done by the Jets? Idzik, the rookie GM, hasn't been in New York long, but he'll find out how it feels to be skewered on the back pages of the tabloids if the team is losing and Revis is yapping regularly. Which he's not afraid to do. And that won't be pleasant.

    There's another sinkhole for the Jets to consider: They can't franchise Revis if he reaches free agency at the end of the 2013 season. So if they don't trade him by the October trading deadline, or if they don't sign him by the end of the season, they risk losing him in free agency in 2014, with only a compensatory draft choice in return. Who knows where Revis would sign? But if he ever signed with hated New England, Jets fans would be burning their season tickets in Times Square.

    "The trade has to happen,'' said another league source who has been privy to the information exchanged between the teams. "The question is when. The Jets know they can't sign him, and Idzik knows if he doesn't sign him he's got to get the best deal he can."

    I'm surprised a team would be willing to pay first- and second-round picks for Revis, which I now believe Tampa Bay would do. The Bucs would be paying big compensation for damaged goods -- though all indications are that Revis is ahead of schedule to return healthy in 2013 -- and making him the highest-paid corner in league history at the same time.

    There's no way the Jets are going to get a better deal anywhere prior to the season. Now, if Idzik gambles and waits until early October, thinking he can do better once everyone sees Revis play at a high level, that's an option. Still, he's not likely to get better than first- and second-round picks for Revis then.

    Unless Idzik can somehow sign Revis this offseason, which seems highly unlikely based on the Jets' clear preference to not give in and pay Revis a second huge contract in three years, the Tampa Bay deal looks like the best one he'll get.

    The gut feeling here is the Jets and Bucs will eventually swing a deal, with the Jets winning on the first-round pick this year. The smarter move, though, would be getting Tampa's two top picks next year, when New York would be in better position to know exactly what it needs at the quarterback position, and when the Jets would know who would be coaching that quarterback.


    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2OCHkGuyp
    Last edited by C Mart; 03-21-2013 at 01:39 PM.

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    @NFLSTROUD: Hard to disagree with Peter King on Bucs-Jets Revis trade. As I reported Monday, Bucs will consider 1st R pick in 13 http://t.co/mhvcdR2uEZ

    @NFLSTROUD: As @SI_PeterKing points out, Bucs would prefer to deal picks in 2014, which makes most sense for Jets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    @NFLSTROUD: As @SI_PeterKing points out, Bucs would prefer to deal picks in 2014, which makes most sense for Jets.
    I would see if we could do a 2014 1st rounder and a 2013 2nd rounder. If Idzik could pull that out of them, I'd say that's a helluva job.

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    ARE YOU KIDDING ME, Idzik has a 1st and 2nd on the table and this deal isn't already done??? Take that immediately!

    The Bucs 2014 first could be BETTER than pick #13, and in a year when there are actually franchise qbs available we would have two #1s.

    How is this deal not done yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astoria View Post
    ARE YOU KIDDING ME, Idzik has a 1st and 2nd on the table and this deal isn't already done??? Take that immediately!

    The Bucs 2014 first could be BETTER than pick #13, and in a year when there are actually franchise qbs available we would have two #1s.

    How is this deal not done yet.
    The Bucs get Revis, signed Golston and have the 13th pick this year. They are definately going to be drafting later next year. Somewhere in the 20s.

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    With ownership driving effort to get Revis, Bucs may eventually blink http://wp.me/p14QSB-7MDd

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
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    With ownership driving effort to get Revis, Bucs may eventually blink http://wp.me/p14QSB-7MDd
    Interesting. I know Freeman is entering the last yr of his contract.


    And so we’ll keep waiting for someone to blink. If Tampa Bay ownership wants Revis badly enough they could be the ones blinking.

    Then, they could end up being the team using that 2014 first-round pick on a quarterback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Interesting. I know Freeman is entering the last yr of his contract.


    And so we’ll keep waiting for someone to blink. If Tampa Bay ownership wants Revis badly enough they could be the ones blinking.

    Then, they could end up being the team using that 2014 first-round pick on a quarterback.
    The good thing with having the picks be in 2014 is that they will hopefully be used with a new HC in place and the true rebuilding can occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Interesting. I know Freeman is entering the last yr of his contract.


    And so we’ll keep waiting for someone to blink. If Tampa Bay ownership wants Revis badly enough they could be the ones blinking.Then, they could end up being the team using that 2014 first-round pick on a quarterback.
    Maybe they also want Tebow and the I-man doesn't want to include him??

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    The Media sure has may opinions on The Revis deal.

    You know what they say about opinions, right?

    Opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one

    Love the fact that the Jets rid themselves of the locker room "source"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    The good thing with having the picks be in 2014 is that they will hopefully be used with a new HC in place and the true rebuilding can occur.
    True. IMO. Ideal would be to get a pick this year (1st or 2nd) and a pick next yr (inverse of the '13 pick).

    This yr you try and trade down a couple of times to acquire additional mid-draft picks where reportedly the draft value is strong allowing more roster spots to be filled up.

    Then next yr package your 1st and 2nd rounders to move up (use a '15 pick too if needed) and get a QB, if needed, since reportedly they'll be higher quality QBs available.
    Last edited by C Mart; 03-21-2013 at 02:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    Maybe they also want Tebow and the I-man doesn't want to include him??
    LOL. Then it's time for another GM. Pronto!

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