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    Quote Originally Posted by 124 View Post
    According to Shock Jock Carton Tampa Bay and Revis' agents have agreed to terms on a long term deal and the Bucs are giving the Jets 24 hours to accept the trade or not.

    Then again he is Shock Jock Carton.
    If this is true, it will also give the Jets a chance to match/beat this offer.

    Again, if this is true. My guess is he'll either be traded or re-signed in the next 24 hours.

    For better or worse the Revis drama will be over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidelioion View Post
    If this is true, it will also give the Jets a chance to match/beat this offer.

    Again, if this is true. My guess is he'll either be traded or re-signed in the next 24 hours.

    For better or worse the Revis drama will be over.
    I hope you are right, but I think this could linger for a few more weeks due to Revis' recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revischrist View Post
    I hope you are right, but I think this could linger for a few more weeks due to Revis' recovery.
    Aha.. If he really was Revis Christ he would have healed 3 days later..

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    Would love to know what terms Revis and Tampa agreed to before they consummate a deal.

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    New GM Idzik Is Now The Law, And Restoring Order Is The Name Of His Game

    March 18, 2013

    By Jeff Capellini, WFAN.com

    If you know anything about how the Jets operated prior to this offseason, you are very much aware that Florham Park, N.J., was the NFLís version of the Wild West.

    But then John Idzik rode into town on an old paint, as a lawman with a quiet, unassuming demeanor, and things started to change.

    Prior to his arrival, the nights were filled with mayhem on the dirt-covered streets and the saloons featured plenty of intimidation of townís folk who simply wanted nothing more than to wet their whistles after a long day in the blazing sun.

    Call it an overused cliche if you want, but the Jets needed a new sheriff or a mysterious stranger to materialize, one that knew he couldnít round up all the outlaws in one sweep but was willing to change things regardless of the timetable of the impatient. They needed a thinking man, someone who specialized in making a town prosperous, someone who had a vision of an outpost of ill repute one day turning into a true spot on the map.

    A destination.

    Idzik, at least so far, seems like the guy in the movies who is more than willing to draw his revolver in a duel, but one thatís not filled with rage or intent on settling old scores, or settling them quickly. Heís operated during this offseason as a gunfighter or card player waiting for a twitch or a tell.

    And he seems like heís not going to draw or show his hand until the time is absolutely necessary.

    No, Idzik is not Ted Thompson, Thomas Dimitroff or Ozzie Newsome. Heís got a long way to go before he can even be mentioned with those general managers as far as building a powerhouse franchise is concerned. But heís also not Mike Tannenbaum, the previous lawman who was run out of town after throwing down his green sash.

    Idzik is the guy with a vision of a better Florham Park, and heís got the backing of the townís richest man, which we all know goes a long way towards real change. Though this rich man is flawed, heís also not stupid.

    And if you look at the moves that have been made so far, or, more specifically, the ones that havenít been made, you can rest a little easier. The Jets are not about robbing stagecoaches anymore. Theyíre into working for a living.

    For his part in this story of the search for justice and a fresh start, Darrelle Revis is like the last remaining member of the gang that at times couldnít shoot straight. He was never the rabble rouser, but was the guy that commanded the respect of everyone else in his posse and the vast majority of the law-abiding citizens. His vision never included spilling blood for the sake of spilling blood, but always was all about doing whatever was necessary to attain vast wealth. Though the people in town respected him, they always felt like they were being held hostage, like he was the outlaw that you looked at never really sure of where his true allegiances stood. Perhaps he was just here to make his fortune before moving off to greener pastures, regardless of what he told you.

    The showdown between the townís anti-hero and the stranger that just rode up was inevitable. And so far the stranger is refusing to draw, because sometimes in a gunfight itís better to wait out your adversary, see whoís got the true gumption with every eye watching.

    Idzik is playing Revis like an old, dusty banjo right now. And heís giving the members of the media, some of whom are squarely in the Revis camp instead of not picking sides like they are supposed to, nothing to work with. Revis may still be traded, but Idzik is not going to let anyone influence how the deal gets done, if it gets done at all.When a town is under new management, the flow of information changes. Reporters ran amok in 2011 and 2012, free to write whatever they chose while hiding behind sources cloaked in black hats and bandanas. You can already tell that a reporterís job in this town is going to get a hell of a lot harder in 2013. Sources, specifically the unnamed variety, are going to dry up. And if they donít, considering the precedent Idzik is in the process of establishing, both reporter and source will need to be heavily scrutinized once they break a story that they think their audience needs to know.

    The Jets finally appear to have a front office structure. All information will flow through this general manager. I get the impression if anyone not named Idzik or Woody Johnson reveals state secrets to anyone they will spend considerable time in the hoosegow. I think Rex Ryan, he of the Tannenbaum green sash gang who for whatever reason avoided the hangman when the new form of law and order swept through the town, will be, as far as his boisterous personality goes, a church mouse. And if you are the Jets and their fans, thatís what you want. Ryan needs to worry about the on-field product. Let Idzik do the talking. If he fails to do either heíll be riding out of town sooner rather than later.

    The Jets have a responsibility to themselves to be fiscally smart. They also owe it to the fans that shell out absurd prices for PSLs to put something resembling a competitive team on the field. Idzik is trying to shoot a bunch of whisky bottles off a distant rock with one bullet. Now, you could get all annoyed because Mike Goodson, Antonio Garay and Willie Colon are not household names, or you could look beyond your need for the quick fix.

    If Idzik has done nothing else heís made one message clear: training camp will be about competition. No steep investments in players, long term or otherwise, will be made until guys prove their worth, and the Jetsí so-called salary cap hell ó they are approximately a respectable $11 million under right now ó will be a distant memory as early as next offseason. The three guys Idzik signed last week are hungry football players, guys who want a chance to make their names known. They are willing to fight for starting jobs. They also add depth at positions the Jets absolutely had to bolster. Do they make the Jets better? Well, they donít make them worse when you consider the players that walked off into the sunset.

    The competition at quarterback is beginning to take form. Sure, David Garrard is in no way a sexy signing, but he is a smart signing, because he has something to prove and, when healthy, wonít turn the ball over 50 times in two years like another signal-caller I could name. Kevin Kolb has been rumored as a potential target and, yes, he too is not a messiah, but he knows the Marty Mornhinweg offense. Kolb and Garrard will absolutely push that other QB much more than Tim Tebow and Greg McElroy, an idea that Tannenbaum inexplicably thought was viable.

    And there will be more moves that will surely annoy the hell out of the fan base, but they wonít be moves that were made simply for the sake of being made. The Jets need numbers and bodies with at least some ability if 2013 is to avoid becoming an embarrassing year. They need guys without any laurels to rest on. They need positional battles and intensity in camp, and they need guys who can assimilate into this new family, as opposed to the fractured household this team was during the previous two seasons.

    You cannot judge Idzik the talent evaluator for at least two years. Thatís how long at a minimum it will take to assess the 2013 draft and any player he signs. But you can judge him right now on the change of message and the organizational approach to how things are done. And if you donít like what you have seen so far you either have to open your eyes or resign yourself to the fact that youíll never be happy.

    Getting back to Revis, I can say with confidence that regardless of what his future ends up being, the Jets will come out of this in a better position than they were at the end of the 2012 season. They will either get a very good package in a trade or they will sign him to what will be deemed as a fair contract by both sides.

    I can say this because Idzik doesnít have an itchy trigger finger. Heís a thinking manís lawman.

    And while it seems like the tumbleweeds are blowing through the streets of Florham Park right now, they wonít be for very long. Parity in the NFL isnít an old wiveís tale. It happens with regularity.

    And Idzik just got a stake in a Faro card game, with no intention of letting the next gang to blow into town beat the banker.

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    Great article above. Can't draw conclusions yet, but Idzik has been solid so far. A good draft makes this a great offseason considering where this team was at the end of last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenWave View Post
    Great article above. Can't draw conclusions yet, but Idzik has been solid so far. A good draft makes this a great offseason considering where this team was at the end of last year.
    It really was a terrific article - very well thought out, rational and well written. The type of piece that the hacks at the Daily News or Post or Mr Cynical at ESPN would never be capable of producing in a million years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    New GM Idzik Is Now The Law, And Restoring Order Is The Name Of His Game

    March 18, 2013

    By Jeff Capellini, WFAN.com

    If you know anything about how the Jets operated prior to this offseason, you are very much aware that Florham Park, N.J., was the NFLís version of the Wild West.

    But then John Idzik rode into town on an old paint, as a lawman with a quiet, unassuming demeanor, and things started to change.

    Prior to his arrival, the nights were filled with mayhem on the dirt-covered streets and the saloons featured plenty of intimidation of townís folk who simply wanted nothing more than to wet their whistles after a long day in the blazing sun.

    Call it an overused cliche if you want, but the Jets needed a new sheriff or a mysterious stranger to materialize, one that knew he couldnít round up all the outlaws in one sweep but was willing to change things regardless of the timetable of the impatient. They needed a thinking man, someone who specialized in making a town prosperous, someone who had a vision of an outpost of ill repute one day turning into a true spot on the map.

    A destination.

    Idzik, at least so far, seems like the guy in the movies who is more than willing to draw his revolver in a duel, but one thatís not filled with rage or intent on settling old scores, or settling them quickly. Heís operated during this offseason as a gunfighter or card player waiting for a twitch or a tell.

    And he seems like heís not going to draw or show his hand until the time is absolutely necessary.

    No, Idzik is not Ted Thompson, Thomas Dimitroff or Ozzie Newsome. Heís got a long way to go before he can even be mentioned with those general managers as far as building a powerhouse franchise is concerned. But heís also not Mike Tannenbaum, the previous lawman who was run out of town after throwing down his green sash.

    Idzik is the guy with a vision of a better Florham Park, and heís got the backing of the townís richest man, which we all know goes a long way towards real change. Though this rich man is flawed, heís also not stupid.

    And if you look at the moves that have been made so far, or, more specifically, the ones that havenít been made, you can rest a little easier. The Jets are not about robbing stagecoaches anymore. Theyíre into working for a living.

    For his part in this story of the search for justice and a fresh start, Darrelle Revis is like the last remaining member of the gang that at times couldnít shoot straight. He was never the rabble rouser, but was the guy that commanded the respect of everyone else in his posse and the vast majority of the law-abiding citizens. His vision never included spilling blood for the sake of spilling blood, but always was all about doing whatever was necessary to attain vast wealth. Though the people in town respected him, they always felt like they were being held hostage, like he was the outlaw that you looked at never really sure of where his true allegiances stood. Perhaps he was just here to make his fortune before moving off to greener pastures, regardless of what he told you.

    The showdown between the townís anti-hero and the stranger that just rode up was inevitable. And so far the stranger is refusing to draw, because sometimes in a gunfight itís better to wait out your adversary, see whoís got the true gumption with every eye watching.

    Idzik is playing Revis like an old, dusty banjo right now. And heís giving the members of the media, some of whom are squarely in the Revis camp instead of not picking sides like they are supposed to, nothing to work with. Revis may still be traded, but Idzik is not going to let anyone influence how the deal gets done, if it gets done at all.When a town is under new management, the flow of information changes. Reporters ran amok in 2011 and 2012, free to write whatever they chose while hiding behind sources cloaked in black hats and bandanas. You can already tell that a reporterís job in this town is going to get a hell of a lot harder in 2013. Sources, specifically the unnamed variety, are going to dry up. And if they donít, considering the precedent Idzik is in the process of establishing, both reporter and source will need to be heavily scrutinized once they break a story that they think their audience needs to know.

    The Jets finally appear to have a front office structure. All information will flow through this general manager. I get the impression if anyone not named Idzik or Woody Johnson reveals state secrets to anyone they will spend considerable time in the hoosegow. I think Rex Ryan, he of the Tannenbaum green sash gang who for whatever reason avoided the hangman when the new form of law and order swept through the town, will be, as far as his boisterous personality goes, a church mouse. And if you are the Jets and their fans, thatís what you want. Ryan needs to worry about the on-field product. Let Idzik do the talking. If he fails to do either heíll be riding out of town sooner rather than later.

    The Jets have a responsibility to themselves to be fiscally smart. They also owe it to the fans that shell out absurd prices for PSLs to put something resembling a competitive team on the field. Idzik is trying to shoot a bunch of whisky bottles off a distant rock with one bullet. Now, you could get all annoyed because Mike Goodson, Antonio Garay and Willie Colon are not household names, or you could look beyond your need for the quick fix.

    If Idzik has done nothing else heís made one message clear: training camp will be about competition. No steep investments in players, long term or otherwise, will be made until guys prove their worth, and the Jetsí so-called salary cap hell ó they are approximately a respectable $11 million under right now ó will be a distant memory as early as next offseason. The three guys Idzik signed last week are hungry football players, guys who want a chance to make their names known. They are willing to fight for starting jobs. They also add depth at positions the Jets absolutely had to bolster. Do they make the Jets better? Well, they donít make them worse when you consider the players that walked off into the sunset.

    The competition at quarterback is beginning to take form. Sure, David Garrard is in no way a sexy signing, but he is a smart signing, because he has something to prove and, when healthy, wonít turn the ball over 50 times in two years like another signal-caller I could name. Kevin Kolb has been rumored as a potential target and, yes, he too is not a messiah, but he knows the Marty Mornhinweg offense. Kolb and Garrard will absolutely push that other QB much more than Tim Tebow and Greg McElroy, an idea that Tannenbaum inexplicably thought was viable.

    And there will be more moves that will surely annoy the hell out of the fan base, but they wonít be moves that were made simply for the sake of being made. The Jets need numbers and bodies with at least some ability if 2013 is to avoid becoming an embarrassing year. They need guys without any laurels to rest on. They need positional battles and intensity in camp, and they need guys who can assimilate into this new family, as opposed to the fractured household this team was during the previous two seasons.

    You cannot judge Idzik the talent evaluator for at least two years. Thatís how long at a minimum it will take to assess the 2013 draft and any player he signs. But you can judge him right now on the change of message and the organizational approach to how things are done. And if you donít like what you have seen so far you either have to open your eyes or resign yourself to the fact that youíll never be happy.

    Getting back to Revis, I can say with confidence that regardless of what his future ends up being, the Jets will come out of this in a better position than they were at the end of the 2012 season. They will either get a very good package in a trade or they will sign him to what will be deemed as a fair contract by both sides.

    I can say this because Idzik doesnít have an itchy trigger finger. Heís a thinking manís lawman.

    And while it seems like the tumbleweeds are blowing through the streets of Florham Park right now, they wonít be for very long. Parity in the NFL isnít an old wiveís tale. It happens with regularity.

    And Idzik just got a stake in a Faro card game, with no intention of letting the next gang to blow into town beat the banker.
    Excellent read, Thanks for posting Savage!

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    Jets coach Rex Ryan says "I know for a fact we're not actively trying to trade Darrelle Revis.' But at the same time, he says you listen.

    Ryan does not believe It's a foregone conclusion that Revis will be traded. Bur he knows teams are always interested in good players.

    Ryan: "I will coach who is here,..I have my own opinions but will keep those to myself."

    Bart Hubbuch ‏@HubbuchNYP
    Rex: "I have nothing to do with trades. My job is to coach the football team."
    Last edited by C Mart; 03-19-2013 at 10:20 AM.

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    Ryan says the Jets will play with a passion and competitiveness that won't be matched in the league.

    Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
    Rex: "We will be one of the premier defenses in the league."




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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    Aha.. If he really was Revis Christ he would have healed 3 days later..
    That's only cause it isn't Easter weekend yet yea of little faith!

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Rick Stroud ‏@NFLSTROUD
    Ryan says the Jets will play with a passion and competitiveness that won't be matched in the league.

    Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
    Rex: "We will be one of the premier defenses in the league."



    Rex is having competition within the team forced down his throat. Tanny and rex did everything in their power NOT to have competition at the Qb position and a number of other positions in which Rex had older fav players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Rick Stroud ‏@NFLSTROUD
    Ryan says the Jets will play with a passion and competitiveness that won't be matched in the league.

    Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
    Rex: "We will be one of the premier defenses in the league."



    And the Rex BS machine has started up

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    Quote Originally Posted by 124 View Post
    According to Shock Jock Carton Tampa Bay and Revis' agents have agreed to terms on a long term deal and the Bucs are giving the Jets 24 hours to accept the trade or not.

    Then again he is Shock Jock Carton.
    Wouldn't this be tampering since the Jets had not given teams permission to discuss financial terms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Rick Stroud ‏@NFLSTROUD
    Ryan says the Jets will play with a passion and competitiveness that won't be matched in the league.

    Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
    Rex: "We will be one of the premier defenses in the league."



    I do really wish he would shut up. Especially about non-sense that means absolutely nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Rick Stroud ‏@NFLSTROUD
    Ryan says the Jets will play with a passion and competitiveness that won't be matched in the league.

    Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN
    Rex: "We will be one of the premier defenses in the league."



    With whom? GYF, dildo.

    It was so nice not having to hear/read your stupidity. I'm counting the seconds until you're out the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    Rex is having competition within the team forced down his throat. Tanny and rex did everything in their power NOT to have competition at the Qb position and a number of other positions in which Rex had older fav players.
    Probably because they know Sanchez would **** the bed against competition (not that he needed competition to **** the bed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsman51 View Post
    Probably because they know Sanchez would **** the bed against competition (not that he needed competition to **** the bed).
    yet, they went out and got tebow last year. well, woody did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borgoguy View Post
    With whom? GYF, dildo.

    It was so nice not having to hear/read your stupidity. I'm counting the seconds until you're out the door.
    what's wrong with saying that, who cares. Everyone knows rex is full of ****, but every year the defense has been top 10, he can run his mouth about the defense all he wants because he has the statistics to back it up. Don't say super bowl, don't say competitive offense...those are blatant lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodfellaz View Post
    Wouldn't this be tampering since the Jets had not given teams permission to discuss financial terms?
    Do we know this?

    Because its been reported the past few weeks that the Jets hadn't been in contact with Revis agents..Idzik said Sunday night that he has been

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