At one point Galileo stood alone within the scientific community. How did that work out for the majority?
I always wondered why Global Warming advocates would cite consensus as proof. It immediately debunks their "scientific knowledge" since consensus in science is irrelevant.
When will this crap die? Taken strictly from the standpoint of known principles of both firefighting and engineering, there's no curiosity as to why all three buildings fell. The towers themselves were built using truss construction -- one of the most extreme examples of truss construction before or since -- to give the buildings their distinct open floor plans (no columns). The central core and the outside shell provided all the support for the trusses. Aesthetically wonderful, that construction proved to be the towers' downfall -- literally. We call truss-constructed buildings "fireman killers," even on the scale of small sh:tty convenience stores. In Seaford (my town) we know exactly where every truss-constructed structure is, and it impacts the firefighting tactics that will be used upon arriving at the fire. Trussed structures will collapse relatively quickly when their weak points are exposed to fire -- and every truss has two distinct weak points; where they connect to the outer walls (or in the case of the towers, the outer walls and inner core) of the building. Once one truss fails, the trusses adjacent to it fail and so on, like dominoes. That's horizontally. Vertically, they fall and the building pancakes. All truthers blather on about "the first time in history a steel constructed building fell." The fire load in those buildings was also unprecedented in scope and intensity, and it burned uncontrolled. That being said, had the same plane that hit either tower hit the empire state building instead, it would have f-cked up the building horribly, but the building would not have collapsed -- at least not below the impact zone. And that's simply because of the way the steel structure was built as opposed to the truss construction of the towers.
As for tower 7, truthers willfully ignore the fact that there was indeed an almost 20-story high gash in the building, and a deisel-fueled fire that burned uncontrolled for more than 8 hours. The FDNY had a transit aimed at the upper floors of the building during the day and determined that the building was in fact leaning (and tilting very slowly), which is why they wisely did not send firefighters into the building.
Anyone with even a basic knowledge of physics/engineering/firefighting understands that the whole truther movement -- at least in the context of the buildings falling -- is complete jackassery.
9/11 was just as it was portrayed. No conspiracy, certainly not from the government. The government boobs could not even figure out how to keep horse gambling (OTB) profitable in the city, a task that supposedly low-brow bookies have been doing for centuries. They certainly could not cook-up and execute such a far reaching conspiracy without being found out.
We have done a lot a bad sh1t to the planet, if being arrogant is stating the obvious so be it. Places like Cheshire Ohio are living proof of it.Actually, the earth could give two sh!ts, it's the animals living on it that may have a problem. To state that anything we do here is "bad" for the planet on any significant level is arrogance at its most high.
Back at the end of WWII, Ike insisted that the German people be forced to see the atrocities that were performed at the death camps and also insisted that there be plenty of pictures taken. You know why? Because he knew that people some day might try to say that it never happened. Threads like these prove that good old Ike knew what he was talking about.
The single biggest factor involved with 9/11 is the one that gets totally overlooked. If not for the scare tactics used by the weaponophobes to disarm our pilots, that disaster and the war that followed would never have happened.
Oh, this is a site that came up that day. It's one of the best. Trust me though, it isn't easy to get through. http://attacked911.tripod.com/
Last edited by Pats1960; 03-24-2013 at 03:53 PM.
I'm convinced. Forget 9/11. It's this forum that is a conspiracy - part of the larger plan to make us all dumber.