wait till clowney time next year
I think this clip vs Cincy is better than the NC one:
Smart kid too, good head on his shoulders and size - 6'3 - 220
The last comment from his coach in this video is key. Renfree is extremely accurate...
A dark horse of sorts, I hope he ends up with the Jets.
Last edited by Monsterxman; 03-20-2013 at 09:32 PM.
Bray in the 3rd round.
Give me Manuel, Bray, Renfree this yr.
Give me BOYD, BDUB , next yr.
top 5 next 2 yr R
Where is this better draft class people say is next year? I really dont see it. Better fruit my ass. Here is CBS top ten QBs next year. Which one of these would even be in 1st round discussion in this class?
1 A.J. McCarron - Limited upside he is Dysert at best next year. More likely just a BU in the pros if that.
2 Logan Thomas - Complete crap IMO. I can throw better then this guy. Not kidding he has no accuracy at all. Brad Sorensen is better for the love of god.
3 Aaron Murray - Eh anther guy that is Drysert at best IMO.
4 Zach Mettenberger - Unless he takes a huge leap he is a mess. If not for his size he isn't even worth mentioning.
5 Tajh Boyd - Is getting Wilson comparisons only not as good. There is a reason Wilson wasn't a high pick. Not exactly blue chip here. 0 chance he gets a 1st rounder.
6 Derek Carr - Maybe the best prospect here really. I could see him getting Nessib like push next year but wouldn't be talked about in this class.
7 David Fales - Crap
8 Tyler Russell - Mega crap
9 Bryn Renner - mild crap
10 Stephen Morris - Super mega crap
That is NOT better fruit even at their best.
If all your talking about is underclass your reaching and hoping IMO. Manziel with these guys looks great but is not a 1st round quality guy. I'll be shocked if he gets a 3rd round draft grade by the board. Bridgewater, Trickett, Thomas, Driskel? You have no clue if any of them are going to be any good and that is even IF they declare next year. Your looking too far down the road for this team to care about IMO.
We don't need to pick any of these guys. None of them stand out, Jets need OLB, OL, RB, S more.
Our need is a very good long term QB, not just a QB. I said it before, just because we get one of these guys in the 2nd round doesn't make them any good. A Gabbert, a Ponder a locker in the 2nd round is still a suspect QB that you are going to be committed to for a number of years.
Last edited by Dreamers; 03-21-2013 at 10:57 AM.
Peter Lalich UDFA - yeah I said it.
To have the attitude that 'we will draft a guy in the 2nd round...if he doesn't work out we will draft another guy next etc lowers the talent level of your team over time. Hey if you love a franchise guy you go after him hard, even trading up but if we pass over a good olineman or WR or OLB or safety in the 2nd round for one of these 'we hope they can do something' QB's it's crazy.
It's all about value and if the guy is a very legit QB to end up being a franchise guy, almost all of the QB's in this draft have a sever limitation in one way or another. Watching Ryan Nassib maybe develop into an okay QB while watching DeAndre Hopkins be a great starter for the next 7 years is not the way to go.
I'm not against drafting QB's. I'm against drafting QB's from this draft class (at least in the top 3 rounds) which looks weak weak weak compared to some other years.
This is a MUCH better class then 2011 that was deemed the year of the QB. It didn't take a genus IMO to call Ponder, Gabbert, and Locker reaches that year. Genp, Glennon, Barkley, Nessib, or Wilson are better prospects then any of those guys where. No just no
2010 Bradford and Tebow topped the list. NO
2009 Matthew Stafford was Geno and the rest of the class was horrid. We fell into that pitfall. NO
07 Russell and Quin nuff said. Neither where good prospects. NO
06 Young Lienard and Cutler. No just no Young was all hype Geno is a much better prospect. Same goes for Barkley and Glennon IMO over Matt and Cutler. Cutler was a question mark big time NO
05 ?No one thought that was a very good QB class either but it was also deep in 2-3 round talent. Turned out to be a descent class and still wasn't as deep as this one. Debatable
04 OK yes
03 Nope not even close IMO Palmer was all USC hype and the rest was pretty much 09 like NO
02 Was hyped as but reality is it wasn't. Carr and Joey may have just gone to teams where they never had a real chance. I'll say NO
so only 3 of the last 10 draft you can honestly say was better. This is better then most IMO.
Last edited by Dreamers; 03-21-2013 at 11:42 AM.
I would like to see us pick up Renfree in the later rounds even if we grab Nassib or Manuel in an earlier round.