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    Question Mel Kiper : how far away are the jets ? ?...jets will improve in 2013 ~ ~ ~

    How far away are the Jets ?

    Options for New York in the draft and why the team will improve in 2013

    Over the past five seasons, the New York Jets haven't had a single
    player go over 1,000 yards receiving in a season. That's not some
    exclamation point meant to define the era, it's part of a bigger point.
    Four of those years consist of the unofficial Mark Sanchez era -- a
    period that has been defined by very good defense and consistently
    inconsistent play on offense. (The high point for passing yards per game
    during this period was 21st in the NFL, in 2011.)We tend to call the Jets a team built on defense, one that needs to"control the ball." Except the running game also has fallen apart over the past two seasons, as the Jets have averaged 3.8 yards per carry each year. Add it up and you have an official period of decline over the past two seasons consisting of 8-8 and 6-10 records.

    It's an outmoded way of thinking to say offenses need to establish the
    run or establish the pass. Teams play to their strengths, and you don't
    consistently do something likely to be less successful just to set up
    something better. The fact with the Jets over the past two seasons is it
    really hasn't mattered what they have tried to do. The running game has
    been completely devoid of explosiveness, and the passing game under
    Sanchez has been simply bad. One side hasn't been able to set up the
    other, because neither side can consistently offer a threat.

    Bottom line : The offense has been the problem. And despite where the
    offense is in terms of personnel, I still don't believe the Jets are in
    some total rebuild mode.

    Here are some reasons why and why the draft can be a part of the solution.

    The defense is still strong

    The 2012 Jets were sixth in total defense. Think about that based on
    what this defense was dealing with. It lacked any consistent pass rush
    off the edge; it lost the best corner (Darrelle Revis) in the NFL early
    in the season; safety play wasn't great; and it saw decline years from
    Bart Scott, David Harris, Calvin Pace and LaRon Landry. Oh, and the
    offense was a three-and-out machine. Add up all the problems and that
    still-good No. 6 ranking represented the worst defense statistically in
    the Rex Ryan era. The Jets can be better at every position they were
    lacking in 2012, and the defensive line is going to be a major strength
    with the continued development of recent first-rounders Muhammad
    Wilkerson and Quinton Coples. I don't care what you give Ryan to work
    with, he's going to scheme his way to a top-10 defense. I don't think
    this unit is going to take a step back.

    The passing game should be better :

    Santonio Holmes' return from injury will boost New York's passing attack.

    Yes, that's a relative statement given how bad it was in 2012, but even
    if Sanchez is under center in 2013, the passing game should improve. The
    loss of Dustin Keller doesn't help, but the return of Santonio Holmes
    gives the passing game at least one reliable target it lacked last
    season. Wideout Stephen Hill was bound to see major growing pains as a
    rookie given the college system he came from, but he should take a step
    forward in 2013. I still believe they need to find more help in the
    draft, but whether it's Sanchez, David Garrard or someone else entirely
    throwing passes, the passing game has no place to go but up.

    Same with the running game :

    Sorry, but regardless of what you think of Shonn Greene, his absence in
    2013 isn't a setback. He lacked the ability to make defenders miss and
    isn't even the power back some consider him -- just 2.1 yards per carry
    after contact, which was good for 44th among qualifying runners last
    season. The current combination of Bilal Powell and Mike Goodson isn't
    impressive, but it offers more than Greene and the draft could provide
    further help.

    Draft options :

    So what can the Jets do in the draft ?

    For one, the Jets can improve the defense by adding a pass-rusher
    offenses truly need to account for on every play. An athletic freak such
    as Barkevious Mingo or a productive pass-rusher such as Jarvis Jones
    are among the options for an upgrade at No. 9.Even if the offense is bound to be a little better in 2013, I still think the Jets need to add at least one "fear factor" element via the draft. By that I mean a player who can create explosive plays or clear matchup problems. Because the value range for that player isn't really at No. 9 -- unless they go for a guy like Tavon Austin or Cordarrelle Patterson that early -- the Jets could consider trading down to pick up an extra first-, second- or even an early third-round pick.

    This is a draft with a decent amount of depth at tight end, so finding a
    replacement for Keller in Round 2 or 3 could be an option, and adding
    another wideout who can cause safeties to play a little deeper -- Justin
    Hunter, Da'Rick Rogers and Terrance Williams come to mind -- could be
    had after the first round.

    The Jets also need help on the offensive line (right tackle was a pass
    protection issue last season), but they could certainly find help at
    that position beyond the first round.

    One other reality of this draft that could help the Jets is the fact
    that the safety class is really deep. Even if it's a third- or
    fourth-round pick, the Jets could find some immediate help at that
    currently depleted position.

    Finally, there's the big question at quarterback, but this isn't a draft
    class that offers any assurances of an immediate upgrade, even over
    Sanchez or Garrard. With Jacksonville, Oakland, Cleveland, Arizona and
    Buffalo all drafting ahead of them, there is no chance Geno Smith slips
    to No. 9, and taking any other quarterback that high would be a massive
    reach. Could they grab another QB later in the draft? Absolutely. But no
    one in this class will offer help for Week 1 of 2013.

    Drafting well offers no certainty that the Jets will make major strides
    in 2013. But by health, subtraction and development alone they could
    have a chance to be a little better at the skill positions. Remember
    that Ryan also has an uncanny ability to piece together an above-average
    defense and there should be reasons for hope.

    It all starts at quarterback, but at least the new front office is
    taking a healthier approach to the idea of competition at the position
    headed into a new season. Every year we see teams we reflexively wrote
    off before the season make major strides and land back in the playoffs.
    The Jets were a total disaster in 2012 yet were still 6-10. This isn't a
    total rebuild; it's a team that could get better both through the draft
    and because, in some areas, it'll be hard-pressed to play any worse.

    > http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...-new-york-jets

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    That article was already posted, but thanks for the effort anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainejet View Post
    That article was already posted, but thanks for the effort anyway.
    ooops...sorry !





    pls delete this thread. thanx ~ ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelly View Post
    ooops...sorry !





    pls delete all of my threads. thanx ~ ~
    Fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets Things View Post
    Fixed
    hi jordy ! !


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    Quote Originally Posted by kelly View Post
    hi jordy ! !

    oh no

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    sup dude...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets Things View Post
    Fixed
    Thank you, having a rough day needed a good laugh... That was great.

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    3 weeks late man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsterxman View Post
    Thank you, having a rough day needed a good laugh... That was great.
    hey !...where's my thank you ! !
    after all....i started this thread


    ~ Monsterxman , i'm sorry you're having a rough day. i hope your day gets better.



    cheers ~ ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2foolish197 View Post
    sup dude...
    hi sg3 ! !


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    Kelly is in the US now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FijiJet View Post
    3 weeks late man
    sorry twisted-sister ! !


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    1. Quiet before the storm: Things are eerily quiet on the Darrelle Revis trade front, but don't take that to mean a potential trade is dead. The draft is 18 days away, meaning John Idzik has two weeks to make perhaps the biggest decision he'll ever render from the GM chair -- keep him or trade him. If it's the latter, the wheels will have to be put into motion a day or two before the draft, giving the other team a chance to examine his surgically repaired knee. But here's the problem for the Jets: Only one serious suitor (the Bucs) has emerged. The 49ers, rumored as a possible suitor, signed CB Nnamdi Asomugha last week, albeit a modest deal.Without a bidding war, the Jets will be hard-pressed to extract anything close to equal-value compensation. Why would the Bucs bid against themselves? Idzik could walk away, wait until Revis is healthy and try again before the Week 8 trading deadline, but that's risky. By then, the Bucs probably will have addressed their cornerback need, perhaps with a first-round pick. From all indications, Idzik's rebuilding plan is centered on acquiring as many draft picks as possible. His best and only bargaining chip is Revis. Would he sell off a pre-owned Cadillac for the price of a Chevy? The clock is ticking. All eyes are on the new GM, whose tenure in New York could be defined by this moment.

    2. The what-if game: Sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make. The Jets would be in bad shape at cornerback if Asomugha had accepted their $10 million-a-year offer in the summer of 2011, when they courted him in the post-lockout free agency period. Obviously, it would've meant the departure of Antonio Cromartie, who also was a free agent and would've signed elsewhere.The Jets would've played the last two seasons with a Revis-Asomugha tandem, but Asomugha's play has declined considerably. He was cut by the Eagles despite a $4 million guarantee, signing a one-year, $1.35 million deal with the 49ers. Meanwhile, Cromartie, who might have signed with the Raiders, has improved to the point where he's considered a No. 1 corner. They also would've let Cromartie walk, and probably wouldn't have bid for Asomugha, if they had picked CB Jimmy Smith in the first round of the '11 draft. They targeted Smith, but he went four spots earlier to the Ravens. The Jets took DE Muhammad Wilkerson. I'd say they made out nicely.

    3. Comp time: One facet of Idzik's rebuilding plan, I'm told, is trying to accumulate compensatory draft picks. The formula is complicated, but it's basically this: A team losing more or better compensatory free agents than it acquires in the previous year is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks -- a maximum of four. So far, the Jets have lost six starters in free agency. It's hard to predict how many of their signees will start, but it may be only two or three. Early prediction: They will have double-digit picks in 2014.

    4. EJ to NY?: On a CBSSports.com podcast, former Florida State QB EJ Manuel speculated that he could get drafted by the Bills, Eagles or Jets. Unfortunately, the host never asked him to elaborate on why he picked those three teams. Until now, Manuel hadn't been linked to the Jets in any fashion. His stock has soared since an MVP performance in the Senior Bowl, and some draft expects believe he could sneak into the first round. He's a terrific leader with a lot of raw ability, but he's just that -- raw. I've heard the Bills like him. With his mobility, he'd be a fit with the Eagles and Chip Kelly's read-option offense. Not sure he'd be a good fit in Marty Mornhinweg's West Coast system, but he may have more upside than any quarterback in the class.

    5. Pre-draft buzz: Like every team, the Jets have begun to host prospects on pre-draft visits. Each team is allowed to bring in 30 players, plus locals. So far, the biggest name that we know about is Oregon OLB Dion Jordan, who already has come through Florham Park. They also reportedly will visit with Alabama CB Dee Milliner. The Jets take these visits seriously. A year ago, they hosted DE Quinton Coples even though Rex Ryan had previously spent time with Coples at his pro day. Two years ago, they subjected Wilkerson (a local visit) to a grueling workout at the team facility. Obviously, some of the visits are due diligence, but, hey, you never know.

    6. More buzz: Here's a name to watch on the Jets' visit list: South Carolina S D.J. Swearinger. He's drawing a lot of interest from the Jets. Florida International S Jonathan Cyprien, projected as a second rounder, also is on the Jets' radar. After losing LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell in free agency, they need safety help in the worst way. They need someone who can step in right away.

    7. Money talk: In case you're wondering, the Jets have $12.57 million in cap room, according to the NFLPA report. That may sound like a lot, but nearly all of that will be required to sign their draft picks. I find it interesting the NFLPA is now publicizing cap space. Clearly, it wants the fans to know how much (or how little) their favorite teams are spending. Hmmm. This has been a sluggish free agency period, which has to be frustrating for the players. But, hey, such is the CBA they negotiated.

    8. The Demotion Man: QB Drew Stanton can't catch a break. Wherever he goes, he gets knocked down a notch on the depth chart before he even steps on the field. A year ago, he signed a free-agent contract to serve as Mark Sanchez's backup, but he was traded a week later to the Colts when the Jets acquired Tim Tebow. Just recently, Stanton signed with the Cardinals, receiving a fairly strong starting endorsement from new coach Bruce Arians. Ah, but it happened again to Stanton. He was leap-frogged by Carson Palmer, whom they acquired last week in a trade. This guy gets jumped more often than a broken step on a staircase.

    9. Crime of the century: Speaking of Palmer, the Raiders should be handed a permanent dunce cap. Their 2011 trade for Palmer has to be one of the worst in recent sports history. They traded a 2012 first-round pick and a conditional 2013 second rounder to the Bengals, who were done with him anyway. Palmer went 8-16 with the Raiders, and all they got for him was a conditional seventh-round pick from the Cards. Commitment to Excellence? Please. For that trade, the Raiders should be committed, period.

    9.a. More Silver & Black: After cutting problem LB Rolando McClain, the Raiders have $45 million in "dead" money on this year's salary cap. And you thought the Jets had cap issues.

    10. Odd Couple: I found it humorous that Patriots QB Tom Brady worked out last week with Terrell Owens at USC. The break-up with Wes Welker must have really rattled Brady's brain. If T.O. sticks around, maybe he can earn an invite to Mark Sanchez's "Jets West" camp in July.

    > http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jet...n-idzik-island

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    9. Crime of the century: Speaking of Palmer, the Raiders should be handed a permanent dunce cap. Their 2011 trade for Palmer has to be one of the worst in recent sports history. They traded a 2012 first-round pick and a conditional 2013 second rounder to the Bengals, who were done with him anyway. Palmer went 8-16 with the Raiders, and all they got for him was a conditional seventh-round pick from the Cards. Commitment to Excellence? Please. For that trade, the Raiders should be committed, period.

    9.a. More Silver & Black: After cutting problem LB Rolando McClain, the Raiders have $45 million in "dead" money on this year's salary cap. And you thought the Jets had cap issues.


    poor 90210

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    I'm just happy Kelly posted the article.

    You're learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_0515 View Post
    I'm just happy Kelly posted the article.

    You're learning.
    you're welcome !


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