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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    In other words, in the view of you, BB, the Wonderful Wizard of the Emerald City of Foxboro is perfection personified and can do no wrong in anything, any time, anyplace anyhow
    "BB wins, therefore BB is always right" - average Pats fan and media frontrunner rationale. I wonder how "right" BB would look if Brady wasn't under Center.

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    He was on the chopping block in 2001 until Mo Lewis saved him from his stupid coaching self

    In fact, the great talent evaluator and genius had Tom Brady strapped to the #3 Inactive QB spot preferring the immortal HOFer Michael Bishop to back up Drew Bedsores for the entire 2000 season after Brady was drafted
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFCEastFan View Post
    You could make a list of all the dumb stuff BB has done in a game. I would agree with you about a lot of the items on the list. This is definitely not one of them.

    FG block team is about as low risk as you can get. Freak injuries happen sometimes. You can't lock your best players in a padded room throughout the season and bring them in only at key times in a game. How many teams sit their starting QB at the end of a game and bring their backup in to take a knee? If Brady got hurt doing that, would you be singing the same tune? I'm guessing yes, so you could shoehorn yet another example into your "BB is arrogant" narrative.

    Hindsight is 20-20. A routine decision to put a player into a relatively low-risk situation only looks bad in the rare cases where the player actually gets hurt. That was precisely Belichick's point and he is 100% right.
    That's crap and there's absolutely no comparison between the two. Among many other reasons, the most obvious is that with FG block play it actually requires CONTACT. Which is something that would never happen when the QB is downing the ball at the end of the game.

    But a more obvious similarity between what BB should have done with Gronk is what a team would do late in the season. If your team has already solidified a spot in the playoffs and they do not have anything to play for, you BENCH that starting QB and save him for the playoffs.

    In Gronk's case, he should have been benched in a meaningless play, with the game well out of reach, so he could save him for another day. Another day where you would have a HEALTHY Gronk.

    For you to make that comparison smacks of desperation to defend a HC that did something that was clearly STUPID. And like I said already it was arrogance to the point of stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    He was on the chopping block in 2001 until Mo Lewis saved him from his stupid coaching self

    In fact, the great talent evaluator and genius had Tom Brady strapped to the #3 Inactive QB spot preferring the immortal HOFer Michael Bishop to back up Drew Bedsores for the entire 2000 season after Brady was drafted
    Don't be ignorant. He also kept 4 QBs on the roster that year as he didn't want to risk exposing Brady to a claim from another team if he left him on the PS. And by 2001, he was bumped to backup after TC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainejet View Post
    That's crap and there's absolutely no comparison between the two. Among many other reasons, the most obvious is that with FG block play it actually requires CONTACT. Which is something that would never happen when the QB is downing the ball at the end of the game.

    But a more obvious similarity between what BB should have done with Gronk is what a team would do late in the season. If your team has already solidified a spot in the playoffs and they do not have anything to play for, you BENCH that starting QB and save him for the playoffs.

    In Gronk's case, he should have been benched in a meaningless play, with the game well out of reach, so he could save him for another day. Another day where you would have a HEALTHY Gronk.

    For you to make that comparison smacks of desperation to defend a HC that did something that was clearly STUPID. And like I said already it was arrogance to the point of stupidity.
    A dozen or so head coaches were asked about having Gronk in for that play at that point in the game and they were UNANIMOUS in their response. No one has a sub package for the FG unit. They would have had Gronk in there as well. No reason or precedent to sit him at that point in the game. Freakish injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski View Post
    A dozen or so head coaches were asked about having Gronk in for that play at that point in the game and they were UNANIMOUS in their response. No one has a sub package for the FG unit. They would have had Gronk in there as well. No reason or precedent to sit him at that point in the game. Freakish injury.
    And what HC's might they be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski View Post
    Don't be ignorant. He also kept 4 QBs on the roster that year as he didn't want to risk exposing Brady to a claim from another team if he left him on the PS. And by 2001, he was bumped to backup after TC.
    total crap


    he had Tom Brady on his roster and decided that Michael Bishop should be his number 2 and that Tom Brady should be the #3 inactive for an entire losing season.

    and the next season he kept Tom Brady on the bench while contiunuing to lose football games until Mo Lewis saved him from getting his ass fired and the Patriots from suffering another losing season


    despite your usual lame attempt to spin any and everything BB does or did as strokes of genius.... THEM ARE THE FACTS

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski View Post
    Don't be ignorant. He also kept 4 QBs on the roster that year as he didn't want to risk exposing Brady to a claim from another team if he left him on the PS. And by 2001, he was bumped to backup after TC.
    I think you've pretty much exhausted this Guido ruse as you did with Vinny Patrollie and GronkWelkHead


    I suggest your next try at a user name should be something like VinnyVinny19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainejet View Post
    That's crap and there's absolutely no comparison between the two. Among many other reasons, the most obvious is that with FG block play it actually requires CONTACT. Which is something that would never happen when the QB is downing the ball at the end of the game.

    But a more obvious similarity between what BB should have done with Gronk is what a team would do late in the season. If your team has already solidified a spot in the playoffs and they do not have anything to play for, you BENCH that starting QB and save him for the playoffs.

    In Gronk's case, he should have been benched in a meaningless play, with the game well out of reach, so he could save him for another day. Another day where you would have a HEALTHY Gronk.

    For you to make that comparison smacks of desperation to defend a HC that did something that was clearly STUPID. And like I said already it was arrogance to the point of stupidity.
    Greg Schiano would disagree with you about kneel downs. Maybe you pull the QB against Tampa Bay but leave him in against all other teams? While we're at at, starting from week 14 or so, let's withhold the best 4 or 5 players on each unit of a playoff-bound team from all contact drills in practice and sit them from all games. Then those teams can be like the 2009 Colts and be accused of lying down and throwing away their competitive edge just in time for the playoffs. Seems like overkill to me, but God forbid someone important get hurt.

    There is much I can criticize BB for, but for me this just isn't one of them.

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