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Thread: Finally - a Revis article favorable to what the Jets are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleansweep2013 View Post
    what??? of course it makes a difference.. A huge difference in revis case because of his injury. The trading team would have HUGE leverage negotiating a contract with Revis, they could franchise him to much less than what they would be paying him annually in a long term deal. They could trade with jets without worrying about a deal at time of trade, because tampa would know revis would much rather sign a long term deal than be franchised. Maybe they want to see revis test the knee next year before talking long term.
    Teams also realize jets are desperate if we don't trade revis in 13 we lose him for nothing in 14. If we had the tag available teams know we could go into the season with him on the block, if we didn't like the offers we let him play 13 as a Jet let him re-prove his value then get a better deal in a trade next offseason after we tagged him...
    Teams dont trade for a player like Revis if they are not going to lock him up long term when they make the trade. If this was Cromartie we were talking about then yes, the franchise tag is more valuable. When a team is going to give up the value it takes to acquire Revis, they are not going to allow him to even reach the point of being franchised.

    Plus, the Jets traded the franchise tag for the no hold out clause, so even if there was a tag option in 2014, Revis would be holding out this year and the Jets would be in the same situation. And if people think Revis wouldnt be holding out because he is coming off of injury, you are crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    So you dont think the Jets will get compensation equal to the Harvin trade because Revis can not be franchised in 2014? It means nothing because the team trading for Revis is signing him long term anyway.
    Reports are out there than Tampa bay willing to give Revis 15- 16 million per year. ( Do you know another team that willing to pay him that high) If you're D revis why would you take anything less (sign an extension with trading team) when you know you can get that next season in Fa. That trading team can't get Revis to sign an extension, the price tag drops a lot as he considered a one year rental.

    With the tag Revis couldn't go anywhere without Jets approval, come next year he can go where he pleases( Miami, Patriots or Bills) and the Jets can't do a single thing to stop it.
    Last edited by Raider9175; 04-10-2013 at 09:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider9175 View Post
    Reports are out there than Tampa bay willing to give Revis 15- 16 million per year. ( Do you know another team that willing to pay him that high) If you're D revis why would you take anything less (sign an extension with trading team) when you know you can get that next season in Fa. That trading team can't get Revis to sign an extension, the price tag drops a lot as he considered a one year rental.

    With the tag Revis couldn't go anywhere without Jets approval, come next year he can go where he pleases( Miami, Patriots or Bills) and the Jets can't do a single thing to stop it.
    So if the Jets get compensation equal to the Harvin deal, will you leave here for good??

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    Teams dont trade for a player like Revis if they are not going to lock him up long term when they make the trade. If this was Cromartie we were talking about then yes, the franchise tag is more valuable. When a team is going to give up the value it takes to acquire Revis, they are not going to allow him to even reach the point of being franchised.

    Plus, the Jets traded the franchise tag for the no hold out clause, so even if there was a tag option in 2014, Revis would be holding out this year and the Jets would be in the same situation. And if people think Revis wouldnt be holding out because he is coming off of injury, you are crazy.
    Your assuming that only the team has a say in Revis signing an extension. That trading team can'ty sign him to an extension if Revis doesn't want to sign one with team.

    You're Revis . You know what Tampa bay willing to pay you next year 15- 16 per year. Now if that trading team isn't willing to go that high what the incentive to sign extension with that team. ( Revis isn't leaving one cent more on the table, he can get from somewhere else- his Uncle raised him right)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider9175 View Post
    Your assuming that only the team has a say in Revis signing an extension. That trading team can'ty sign him to an extension if Revis doesn't want to sign one with team.

    You're Revis . You know what Tampab bay willing to pay you next year 15- 16 per year. Now if that trading team isn't willing to go that high what the incentive to sign extension with that team. ( Revis isn't leaving one cent more he can get from somewhere else)
    LOL...Tampa IS the trading team right now.

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    The reports of Tampa willing to give him 15 a year are just those, rumors, like the rest of the info regarding a potential trade.

    If TB does not do well this year 'reports' are that their GM will be gone.

    If TB does not get Revis they will go in a different direction and their interest in him next year could be lessened greatly.

    There are three things that can happen out of this and two of them are pretty good for the Jets.

    1) They get their asking price and trade him.
    2) They sign him to a long term extension.

    and the bad thing is

    3) They get a year out of a pro bowl CB, perhaps trade him through the year and then lose him for at best a compensatory pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    So if the Jets get compensation equal to the Harvin deal, will you leave here for good??
    No because who knows IF Tampa Bay is that dumb and really think Revis makes them the favorites in the NFC. That they would over pay when they are the only team willing to give Revis his price and team trying to trade for him.


    IF Tamp Bay is smart you announce your not pursuing D Revis anymore. Draft your players and sit back and just wait. AT some point as we get to training camp, The Jets are going to start to worry they are going to lose this guy for nothing. The best player in your franchise history, and you got NADA for him..


    The Jets burnt there bridges with D Revis and signing him to extension is probably out of the equation right now. ( Good job Woody)
    Last edited by Raider9175; 04-10-2013 at 10:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    The reports of Tampa willing to give him 15 a year are just those, rumors, like the rest of the info regarding a potential trade.

    If TB does not do well this year 'reports' are that their GM will be gone.

    If TB does not get Revis they will go in a different direction and their interest in him next year could be lessened greatly.

    There are three things that can happen out of this and two of them are pretty good for the Jets.

    1) They get their asking price and trade him.
    2) They sign him to a long term extension.

    and the bad thing is

    3) They get a year out of a pro bowl CB, perhaps trade him through the year and then lose him for at best a compensatory pick.
    That option will never happen, it can never ever happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider9175 View Post
    No because who knows IF Tampa Bay is that dumb and really think Revis makes them the favorites in the NFC. That they would over pay when they are the only team willing to give Revis his price and team trying to trade for him.


    IF Tamp Bay is smart you announce your not pursuing D Revis anymore. Draft your players and sit back and just wait. AT some point as we get to training camp, The Jets are going to start to worry they are going to lose this guy for nothing. The best player in your franchise history, and you got NADA for him..


    The Jets burnt there bridges with D Revis and signing him to extension is probably out of the equation right now. ( Good job Woody)
    So then a team realistically CAN give the Jets a compensation package in excess of the Harvin deal for Revis, and all the nonsense you spout is actually just you wishing that a realistic deal can not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    The reports of Tampa willing to give him 15 a year are just those, rumors, like the rest of the info regarding a potential trade.

    If TB does not do well this year 'reports' are that their GM will be gone.

    If TB does not get Revis they will go in a different direction and their interest in him next year could be lessened greatly.

    There are three things that can happen out of this and two of them are pretty good for the Jets.

    1) They get their asking price and trade him.
    2) They sign him to a long term extension.

    and the bad thing is

    3) They get a year out of a pro bowl CB, perhaps trade him through the year and then lose him for at best a compensatory pick.
    Option two might be out of the equation. Revis camp and Woody Johnson dislike for each other and this option might not be there anymore. It just might be time for the two parties to go in a different direction.

    3 The Jets could get nothing For D revis as they most likely will be big player in FA in 2014, thus could possible not get anything back for him.

    This situation going to be fascinating to watch what eventually the Jets get for him when he traded. (at this point this is the only option)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    LOL...Tampa IS the trading team right now.
    Why hasn't that trade been completed yet?????? If tampba Bay realizes rthey are holding the better hand and don't panic they should be able to get Revis at their price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider9175 View Post
    Why hasn't that trade been completed yet?????? If tampba Bay realizes rthey are holding the better hand and don't panic they should be able to get Revis at their price.
    Maybe because the Jets are not the Raiders and actually think trades through before they do something.

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    The market for Revis should only improve as his leg continues to heal without setbacks.

    I'm giving Idzik the green light to do whatever he thinks best here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    So then a team realistically CAN give the Jets a compensation package in excess of the Harvin deal for Revis, and all the nonsense you spout is actually just you wishing that a realistic deal can not happen.
    OF course it's always possible one team does something dumb like that. The problem is that most teams won't be willing to do something like that and are out of the running for making a trade. ( Tampa bay is competing against them self and if they are dumb enough to over pay when they don't have to, more power to the Jets.

    Their GM does that trade he still might lose his job, but he also might make it harder for him self to get another Gm job down the road.
    Last edited by Raider9175; 04-10-2013 at 10:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetswin View Post
    The market for Revis should only improve as his leg continues to heal without setbacks.

    I'm giving Idzik the green light to do whatever he thinks best here.

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    You could be right but JMO I don't think his trade value has anything to do with his health. (very small concern)
    No Team wants to give up a lot back in a trade and sign a Player that going to cost a lot of money to keep. (not a Qb) They rather get him next year just for the money and no picks involved. ( You need those cheap draft picks to build depth and to off set you paying a guy that much money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    That option will never happen, it can never ever happen.
    That's your wish you mean, right?

    If Tampa decides to back off, keep the picks and the cash, and take a CB in the first round as many have them doing in their mocks, then that becomes the likely outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski View Post
    That's your wish you mean, right?

    If Tampa decides to back off, keep the picks and the cash, and take a CB in the first round as many have them doing in their mocks, then that becomes the likely outcome.
    The bucs don't want a 1st round CB, they want revis. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleansweep2013 View Post
    Lol lets not start the insanity again because of finally 1 favorable report in jets favor. Had revis not been hurt, franchise tag available, sure we may have gotten two firsts.. We have ONE team currently inquiring about revis. If we had more that would be some leverage. There is NO way we are getting 2 1sts. If in fact Tampa is willing to finally give the 13th pick overall, looking at best another mid rounder.. Tampa could get a good cb at 13th overall. Or they could trade up for the Alabama stud cb in the draft.. Figure it will cost lost for them to trade up for him than what they would have had to give up for revis. And Pay him a fraction of what you would have to pay revis for 4 years.. I don't understand why izdik is holding out for this yr picks, not competing this yr with Sanchez or whatever scrub qb takes his place. Will get more value next year..
    dee milner maybe a really good player but he got beat for more tds this year than revis has his his whole time in the nfl. he is a once a decade player think back to when sanders retired in 2000 that was the real end of his time in the nfl revis come along 2008 and takes claim 2010 once a decade i say and is worth as much as someone will pay. dont forget not to long ago the raiders payed a kings ransom for carson palmer so anything can happen. i hope we dont trade hime and resign him in 12 mil range and get to watch a guy we drafted got into the hof in green and white

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider9175 View Post
    No because who knows IF Tampa Bay is that dumb and really think Revis makes them the favorites in the NFC. That they would over pay when they are the only team willing to give Revis his price and team trying to trade for him.


    IF Tamp Bay is smart you announce your not pursuing D Revis anymore. Draft your players and sit back and just wait. AT some point as we get to training camp, The Jets are going to start to worry they are going to lose this guy for nothing. The best player in your franchise history, and you got NADA for him..


    The Jets burnt there bridges with D Revis and signing him to extension is probably out of the equation right now. ( Good job Woody)
    Who are they going to draft? If they don't get Revis they MUST draft a CB or two high in the draft. Tampa Bay must make a decision on revis before the draft or close the door on the deal entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider9175 View Post
    Why hasn't that trade been completed yet?????? If tampba Bay realizes rthey are holding the better hand and don't panic they should be able to get Revis at their price.
    They aren't holding the better hand. They desperately want Revis, the best Cb in the league who is 100% proven. The trade mayor may not come off but please don't act as if Tb is doing the Jets a big favor just by showing interest. They feel they are a CB away from really doing well this year. They also know they have nothing at all back there right now.

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