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    Finally - a Revis article favorable to what the Jets are doing.

    Great read....by Schien of all people:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...s-than-ny-jets


    Darrelle Revis trade more important to Buccaneers than N.Y. Jets

    By Adam Schein
    Columnist, NFL.com
    Published: April 9, 2013 at 11:29 a.m. Updated: April 9, 2013 at 01:01 p.m.
    It's so easy to rip the New York Jets. You do it. I do it. They've earned it.

    But what if, perhaps, just maybe, they're handling this Darrelle Revis saga with aplomb? What if, perhaps, just maybe, the New York Jets know exactly what they are doing?

    Revis is an ex-Jet-in-waiting, as I wrote in February. Now it seems there's only one team involved in the Jets' attempts to trade him: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    Is it possible, perhaps, just maybe, that the Bucs need Revis more than the Jets need to get rid of him?

    I'd argue that this is absolutely the case.

    The pendulum has swung. April's draft cannot come and go without Tampa trading for Revis, not if the Bucs want to win in 2013 -- not if the brass wants to stay employed.

    Without question, the Jets want to trade Revis. He's done, as he should be. Back in January, Albert Breer reported the Jets were considering the trade option, with owner Woody Johnson talking to candidates for the Jets' general manager job about how to handle Revis. Likely still angry about Revis' prior holdout, Johnson has rightly had enough of the star defender, who is seemingly never happy with the Jets, more interested in paper green than "Gang Green."

    Revis -- who is coming off of a torn anterior cruciate ligament -- wants $15 million per season. That's crazy talk. Bill Parcells said as much. Phil Simms said the same on SiriusXM, citing the way the current rules favor the quarterback and the offense.

    If Revis shows up to the Jets' offseason program, he will become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the year, able to sign anywhere -- including with the New York Giants or New England Patriots. And the Jets will get nothing back.

    Now, since the free world knows Johnson wants to trade the best cornerback in the NFL, some might assume that the Jets and new general manager John Idzik have no leverage.

    That's just not true.

    It's been an open secret that Tampa Bay craves Revis. Bucs coach Greg Schiano has loved Revis since his Rutgers teams were facing off against the Pittsburgh product. And while Schiano is entrenched, it's fair to say that Tampa Bay general manger Mark Dominik is "general managing," if you will, for his job. I like Dominik a lot and think he's performed solidly, but he needs to upgrade the talent.

    The Bucs' pass defense was an embarrassment last season, and they can't afford not to fix it. Consider the rest of the NFC South. Matt Ryan, Roddy White and Julio Jones lead the Atlanta Falcons' aerial attack. Sean Payton is coming back to coach and team with Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints. Cam Newton and Steve Smith are electrifying for the Carolina Panthers.

    According to Ian Rapoport, the Bucs are willing to give up the 13th overall pick, but the Jets want even more. And this is easy to understand. They need the picks. After all, New York only needs help and starters at quarterback, running back, receiver, offensive line, tight end and linebacker, and in the defensive backfield. Other than that, the Jets are in excellent shape.

    What is Tampa Bay going to do, not trade for Revis? Are the Bucs going to play defense with 10 guys on the field? Are they going to tell their fans that they're comfortable finishing in last place?

    The Bucs need starting corners. Ronde Barber -- who isn't signed, by the way -- is long in the tooth; the future Hall of Famer is more of a safety at this stage of his career. Aqib Talib is a Patriot. Eric Wright is the best corner they have -- and that's not good. Tampa Bay shopped him this offseason.

    There were several solid corners available on the open market, but Dominik rightly eschewed the field, choosing instead to wait for the Jets star, who is simply the best in the business. He cuts off half of the field. He lets you blitz. Now all the Bucs have to do is add him.

    Revis is the kind of player Greg Schiano dreams of at night, as Dominik knows. He's also a marquee attraction who can help sell season tickets in Tampa to both frustrated Bucs fans and transplanted New Yorkers living in the Tampa area. After letting sack artist Michael Bennett join the Seattle Seahawks, the Bucs have the cap space and the money to pay Revis top dollar.

    What are they going to do, draft a cornerback with the 13th overall pick? Dee Milliner is going to be long gone by the time the Bucs are up. And while I live for the NFL draft, we all know the crapshoot factor involved.

    Yahoo! Sports reported that the Bucs are getting frustrated with the Jets. Meanwhile, per our good friend Rich Cimini at ESPN.com, the Jets are insisting that Revis must show up for voluntary workouts in order to receive a $3 million bonus.

    I love it. I love the reports. I love the leaks. I love the drama.

    It actually looks like Idzik is adept is playing poker and won't blink. He has the best hand. He has the player the Bucs covet. Dominik knows it.

    And while this would be a great deal for the Jets, it would be a major -- not a minor -- victory for Tampa Bay.

    A healthy Revis should significantly up the win total for the Bucs. I like Schiano as their head coach. Dominik had a great draft last year, highlighted by the selections of running back Doug Martin, underrated linebacker Lavonte David and safety Mark Barron. Veteran receiver Vincent Jackson is a beast. Offensive lineman Carl Nicks is coming back. Even with the erratic Josh Freeman at quarterback, the Bucs can absolutely compete for the playoffs if they trade for Revis.

    Failing to land Revis could equal last place for the Bucs -- and a job hunt for Dominik.

    You tell me how this is going to play out.

    Perhaps, just maybe, the Jets know this.

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    Here's another point to make.

    If it is true that the Bucs are willing to give up this years 1st rounder....why not hold out for more.

    If the Jets have gotten them to cave for the 1st, they'll certainly cave for a few more picks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaJet View Post
    Here's another point to make.

    If it is true that the Bucs are willing to give up this years 1st rounder....why not hold out for more.

    If the Jets have gotten them to cave for the 1st, they'll certainly cave for a few more picks....
    For this year and for next..

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    We have a mega Revis thread that this would have looked great in.

    I have a feeling Idzik is demanding two first rounders. In the end I think we will get their 2013 1st and 2014 2nd PLUS a 3rd in either 2013 or 2014. Maybe Idzik ends up playing this perfectly and they cave and give us the two first rounders. The more the merrier.

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    So, since everyone and their mother claims Revis is definitely Tampa Bay-bound only

    How's the crowd going to react when the Bucs visit the Jets this season with Revis in Red, Pewter & Black? should be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    We have a mega Revis thread that this would have looked great in.

    I have a feeling Idzik is demanding two first rounders. In the end I think we will get their 2013 1st and 2014 2nd PLUS a 3rd in either 2013 or 2014. Maybe Idzik ends up playing this perfectly and they cave and give us the two first rounders. The more the merrier.
    Lol lets not start the insanity again because of finally 1 favorable report in jets favor. Had revis not been hurt, franchise tag available, sure we may have gotten two firsts.. We have ONE team currently inquiring about revis. If we had more that would be some leverage. There is NO way we are getting 2 1sts. If in fact Tampa is willing to finally give the 13th pick overall, looking at best another mid rounder.. Tampa could get a good cb at 13th overall. Or they could trade up for the Alabama stud cb in the draft.. Figure it will cost lost for them to trade up for him than what they would have had to give up for revis. And Pay him a fraction of what you would have to pay revis for 4 years.. I don't understand why izdik is holding out for this yr picks, not competing this yr with Sanchez or whatever scrub qb takes his place. Will get more value next year..

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    Great article thanks for posting IJ.

    Two 1sts is looking more and more likely

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    This years 1st, 2nd, 4th, next years 2nd, 3rd. If we get that, pack his bags for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleansweep2013 View Post
    Lol lets not start the insanity again because of finally 1 favorable report in jets favor. Had revis not been hurt, franchise tag available, sure we may have gotten two firsts.. We have ONE team currently inquiring about revis. If we had more that would be some leverage. There is NO way we are getting 2 1sts. If in fact Tampa is willing to finally give the 13th pick overall, looking at best another mid rounder.. Tampa could get a good cb at 13th overall. Or they could trade up for the Alabama stud cb in the draft.. Figure it will cost lost for them to trade up for him than what they would have had to give up for revis. And Pay him a fraction of what you would have to pay revis for 4 years.. I don't understand why izdik is holding out for this yr picks, not competing this yr with Sanchez or whatever scrub qb takes his place. Will get more value next year..
    Revis is a known best at his position commodity, if his name was not Revis we wouldn't be having this convo. Drafting a rookie prospect at top 10 has bust potential or at the very least a couple of year window before the player really knows what he is doing.

    He's holding out for this years pick because it is at 13. Tampa with the addition of Revis could be drafting 20-32 next year if not lower. We would also be doing without Revis our any help for this year totally.

    If we take next years one we have to get other picks to make up for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedGreen314 View Post
    This years 1st, 2nd, 4th, next years 2nd, 3rd. If we get that, pack his bags for him.



    Lol







    This IS a joke post, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedGreen314 View Post
    This years 1st, 2nd, 4th, next years 2nd, 3rd. If we get that, pack his bags for him.
    That haul looks good, but that should be the fall back option for Idzik - he should keep bleeding them for 2 first rounders till he is absolutely sure he can't get it. Schiano is desperate, Tampa Bay is need,y and Revis and his agent can smell the green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FijiJet View Post
    That haul looks good, but that should be the fall back option for Idzik - he should keep bleeding them for 2 first rounders till he is absolutely sure he can't get it. Schiano is desperate, Tampa Bay is need,y and Revis and his agent can smell the green.
    Lol these posts are hilarious.. Tampa can just say " we can just wait until 14 to sign revis and give up zero draft picks" sure another team may offer something to trade, but their offer is only 1 that exists right now. So Tampa can wait for that mystery team to come in and see if they dare offer anywhere near tampa's offer.. If so what is that team waiting for? Time is running out, if they wanted revis that bad they would have been involved already.. It stinks there is not a bidding war for revis, jets would be in much better situation.. Instead we have 1 team bidding against themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleansweep2013 View Post
    Lol these posts are hilarious.. Tampa can just say " we can just wait until 14 to sign revis and give up zero draft picks" sure another team may offer something to trade, but their offer is only 1 that exists right now. So Tampa can wait for that mystery team to come in and see if they dare offer anywhere near tampa's offer.. If so what is that team waiting for? Time is running out, if they wanted revis that bad they would have been involved already.. It stinks there is not a bidding war for revis, jets would be in much better situation.. Instead we have 1 team bidding against themselves

    You, like everyone else in the media and on this board, have no idea how many teams the Jets have spoken to, about Revis. We don't know what the market is, because the Jets have said nothing. The only news has been speculation by the media and their "sources". The Jets line has been and still is..... "We want Revis to be a NYJet".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gas2No99 View Post
    So, since everyone and their mother claims Revis is definitely Tampa Bay-bound only

    How's the crowd going to react when the Bucs visit the Jets this season with Revis in Red, Pewter & Black? should be fun.
    That is why I root for the laundry.

    Couldn't care less about him if/when he comes back. Only thing I am concerned with is making sure the picks we get improve the Jets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleansweep2013 View Post
    Lol these posts are hilarious.. Tampa can just say " we can just wait until 14 to sign revis and give up zero draft picks" sure another team may offer something to trade, but their offer is only 1 that exists right now. So Tampa can wait for that mystery team to come in and see if they dare offer anywhere near tampa's offer.. If so what is that team waiting for? Time is running out, if they wanted revis that bad they would have been involved already.. It stinks there is not a bidding war for revis, jets would be in much better situation.. Instead we have 1 team bidding against themselves
    I dont think you're really understanding the fact that if the people in charge wait one more year to do this, they will all be looking for new jobs at the end of the season. They play in a division that includes teams that could throw up 70 points on their secondary without an issue. That small little fact gives the Jets so much leverage that it really doesn't feel like there's only one team bidding at all.

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    The worm has turned. Idzik has already made his mark and this is the day the media will have changed their tunes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedGreen314 View Post
    This years 1st, 2nd, 4th, next years 2nd, 3rd. If we get that, pack his bags for him.
    Id' sign for that yesterday, but no way TB does that for an injured player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleansweep2013 View Post
    Lol these posts are hilarious.. Tampa can just say " we can just wait until 14 to sign revis and give up zero draft picks" sure another team may offer something to trade, but their offer is only 1 that exists right now. So Tampa can wait for that mystery team to come in and see if they dare offer anywhere near tampa's offer.. If so what is that team waiting for? Time is running out, if they wanted revis that bad they would have been involved already.. It stinks there is not a bidding war for revis, jets would be in much better situation.. Instead we have 1 team bidding against themselves
    Except....IMO there is no way Revis starts the 2013 year for the Jets or any other team WITHOUT a contract extension.

    IMO if a trade doesn't materialize it is in both the Jets and Revis' best interest to get a reasonable deal done.

    The Jets can't risk losing Revis to FA in 2014.

    Revis can't risk not returning from his injury to his old Pro-Bowl form or even worse, getting injured again in his walk year. There's way too much money at stake for Revis. The media ignores this particular angle because of their Jets bias....any angle that may shed favorable light on this organization is ignored.

    To me, all this trade him or else talk is a bunch of nonsense.

    Come September 2013 Revis will have a new deal, either with the Jets or with the team he is traded to.

    In fact, IMO, if a trade doesn't happen, the leverage in contract negotiations swings heavily in the Jets favor.

    NO WAY Revis suits up this year without new guaranteed money from someone. He can't risk it coming off a big injury.

    By training camp, Revis would probably take a deal in the 8-10 million range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaJet View Post
    Except....IMO there is no way Revis starts the 2013 year for the Jets or any other team WITHOUT a contract extension.

    IMO if a trade doesn't materialize it is in both the Jets and Revis' best interest to get a reasonable deal done.

    The Jets can't risk losing Revis to FA in 2014.

    Revis can't risk not returning from his injury to his old Pro-Bowl form or even worse, getting injured again in his walk year. There's way too much money at stake for Revis. The media ignores this particular angle because of their Jets bias....any angle that may shed favorable light on this organization is ignored.

    To me, all this trade him or else talk is a bunch of nonsense.

    Come September 2013 Revis will have a new deal, either with the Jets or with the team he is traded to.

    In fact, IMO, if a trade doesn't happen, the leverage in contract negotiations swings heavily in the Jets favor.

    NO WAY Revis suits up this year without new guaranteed money from someone. He can't risk it coming off a big injury.

    By training camp, Revis would probably take a deal in the 8-10 million range.
    ??? He has ZERO leverage to force a new contract with the Jets. If he holds out 2 years gets added to his contract at a really low value. If the Jets are stupid enough to keep him, he will play his last year to get to FA. He has no choice.

    That said, Idzik needs to just get it done tomorrow, so this all can be over and Mevis can be somewhere else

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    exactamundo...this deal will be done in due time....writing is on the wall.


    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaJet View Post
    Here's another point to make.

    If it is true that the Bucs are willing to give up this years 1st rounder....why not hold out for more.

    If the Jets have gotten them to cave for the 1st, they'll certainly cave for a few more picks....

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