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  1. #41
    How does Tampa throwing Freeman in a trade for Revis make any sense at all?

    Why would Tampa trade for Revis (a first round pick no less), and leave themselves without a QB, and no first round pick in a QB weak draft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by escamoter2 View Post
    Schiano ruins QBs generally. If he thinks he's bad, he's probably good.
    Okay.... I'm not a huge college football guy, but what is this based on? Mike Teel, Tom Savage, and Chas Todd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by detjetsfan View Post
    Most JI posters hated Freeman as a qb prospect before the '09 draft. Ironically he's been the best QB from that year's draft class and has the highest ceiling.

    If we traded Revis for Freeman, a 1st, a late rd pick and threw in the human waste product Tebow and then added a WR in FA and drafted a TE like Ertz in rd 2 we would really be turned around on offense. Freeman is mobile, significantly less turnover prone than Suckchez and a way better thrower.
    Tebow should not even be in a conversation. If your looking at Freeman The trade will probably be along the lines of Freeman the #13, #112 and a 2nd next year for Revis and the 39th pick this year.
    Last edited by patman; 04-11-2013 at 12:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batmans A Scientist View Post
    How does Tampa throwing Freeman in a trade for Revis make any sense at all?

    Why would Tampa trade for Revis (a first round pick no less), and leave themselves without a QB, and no first round pick in a QB weak draft?
    that's what makes this thread so off the wall. Just because Tampa plans to draft a mid round QB doesn't translate to Freeman might be included in a trade now. Drafting a mid round QB is a far cry from dealing your only viable starting QB for the next season. Don't want him anyway. He'll be a free agent next year probably. Lets see how he does this year in Tampa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detjetsfan View Post
    Most JI posters hated Freeman as a qb prospect before the '09 draft. Ironically he's been the best QB from that year's draft class and has the highest ceiling.
    Josh Freeman is not better than Matthew Stafford

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePNYJ1 View Post
    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5121/josh-freeman

    Interesting quagmire! (love that word)

    What if they include Freeman in a deal for Revis. Say the 13th, their 3rd, Conditional 3rd next year and Freeman.
    As much as I was fan of Chad, Freeman is the black version of Chad Pennington. Will put up some nice stats, but any time he plays against an upper level defense he blows.

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    If we had stayed put at 18 in 2009 and drafted Freeman we'd be in a much better position than we're in today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 124 View Post
    If we had stayed put at 18 in 2009 and drafted Freeman we'd be in a much better position than we're in today.
    Make that 17 and you have a point..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Untouchable View Post
    Josh Freeman is not better than Matthew Stafford
    He must have forgotten about Stafford. ... Would be insane to think Freeman was the better player



    Ljr

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamont_jordan_rules View Post
    He must have forgotten about Stafford. ... Would be insane to think Freeman was the better player



    Ljr
    Freeman had a 27/17 TD/INT Ratio, Stafford was at 20/17. Freeman averaged 7.3 yards per pass, Stafford averaged 6.8. Freeman averaged 6.7 Net Yards per Pass (including a penalty for sacks), Stafford was at 6.3. Freeman averaged 6.3 ANY/A, Stafford 6.3. And Freeman didn't have Megatron.

    Freeman's team won 7 games despite a bad defense, Stafford's team won 4 games despite a bad defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoePNYJ1 View Post
    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5121/josh-freeman

    Interesting quagmire! (love that word)

    What if they include Freeman in a deal for Revis. Say the 13th, their 3rd, Conditional 3rd next year and Freeman.
    It really doesN't matter what the coach thinks about a player but what the GM does. ( the GM drafted Freeman and hired the coach)

    Tampabay isn't getting rid of Freeman till they find a Qb that can beat him out.
    what good is bringing in a Qb that worse than J Freeman .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider9175 View Post
    It really doesN't matter what the coach thinks about a player but what the GM does. ( the GM drafted Freeman and hired the coach)

    Tampabay isn't getting rid of Freeman till they find a Qb that can beat him out.
    what good is bringing in a Qb that worse than J Freeman .
    could be worse for Tampa


    they could have just spent the farm on M Flynn and possibly relying on T Pryor

  13. #53
    It was rumored that Tampa wanted Carson Palmer who wound up going to the Cards. if Tampa would have landed Palmer then I could see Frreman thrown in to the Revis trade. I just can't see how the Bucs would trade there only QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTL Jet Fan View Post
    It was rumored that Tampa wanted Carson Palmer who wound up going to the Cards. if Tampa would have landed Palmer then I could see Frreman thrown in to the Revis trade. I just can't see how the Bucs would trade there only QB.
    Revis and Sanchez to Tampa for two 1st round picks, a 2nd, and a 6th (for Sanchez).

    Done. Triple stamped, no erasies, touch blue to make it true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTL Jet Fan View Post
    Fu
    No, Fu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetsfootballguy View Post
    Freeman had a 27/17 TD/INT Ratio, Stafford was at 20/17. Freeman averaged 7.3 yards per pass, Stafford averaged 6.8. Freeman averaged 6.7 Net Yards per Pass (including a penalty for sacks), Stafford was at 6.3. Freeman averaged 6.3 ANY/A, Stafford 6.3. And Freeman didn't have Megatron.

    Freeman's team won 7 games despite a bad defense, Stafford's team won 4 games despite a bad defense.
    Stafford also has a 5,000 yard, 40+ TD season under his belt.

    No damn way I would take Freeman over Stafford if given the choice.

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    Revis, Teblow and Sanchez to the Bucs

    Freeman and the #13 to the Jets


    Do it Idzy

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...f-revis-trade/

    If/when the Jets ship cornerback Darrelle Revis to the Buccaneers, another current member of the roster could be making the trip to Tampa, too.

    While poking around the question of whether the Jets could be trying to include quarterback-of-all-trades Tim Tebow in the package (which would keep the Jets from cutting Tebow and seeing him sign with the Patriots), we tripped over a previously unknown nugget. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the discussions between the Jets and Bucs have included the possibility of the Buccaneers assuming the contract of quarterback Mark Sanchez.

    Yes, Sanchez. He has a guaranteed base salary of $8.25 million for 2013. If he didnít, Sanchez would have been cut by now. If the Jets could unload that obligation, theyíd surely jump at the chance.

    Itís unclear whether Sanchez would compete for the starting job in Tampa. On one hand, he hasnít done enough in recent years to justify the opportunity. On the other hand, coach Greg Schiano doesnít seem to be sold on quarterback Josh Freeman, who was taken 12 spots behind Sanchez in the 2009 draft.

    Sanchez thrived in New York during a couple of Schianoís seasons at Rutgers. Schiano possibly thinks he could coax better performances out of the man who took the Jets to back-to-back AFC title games to start his career. In Tampa, his offensive coordinator would be Mike Sullivan, who helped Eli Manning to a couple of Super Bowl wins.

    At this point, all we know is that the subject has come up in the trade discussions. For now, itís still merely a possibility.

    An intriguing possibility, but a possibility nevertheless.

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    This deserves its own thread.

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