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    When will Jet fans turn on Idzik

    In the first half of the season the Jets have the toughest schedule in the NFL. Two games vs the Patriots and games vs the Steelers, Bengals, Falcons and Saints.

    What will the first half record have to be to keep Jet fans from turning on Idzik and Geno Smith if he is the starter from day one.

    http://www.newyorkjets.com/schedule/...-schedule.html

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    I hate him and Geno Smith right now.

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    c'mon man.

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    Not as fast as everyone turns on your posts. Dump! Talk about negative-geesh!

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    I honestly find it comical already that some fans are judging him good or bad at this point in time. I don't think you can grade a gm for at least two or three seasons to see how his moves pay off or don't.

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    probably Jet fans here at JI that don't come from New Hampshire or Vermont will probably give Big John a long leash based on his performance since the minute he was hired of reining in the loudness, following through in the draft with his stated mission of treasuring draft picks as precious assets and getting rid of a player with as much use as a barrel of ice at the North Pole in the winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibby View Post
    I honestly find it comical already that some fans are judging him good or bad at this point in time. I don't think you can grade a gm for at least two or three seasons to see how his moves pay off or don't.
    The reason he is under scrutiny is because:

    1. He wasn't wanted as a GM by any other team.

    2. He was our last choice.

    3. He was never a player-personnel guy.

    4. He let several good free agents walk.

    5. He didn't get good value for Revis.

    6. His draft got us no offensive playmakers.

    7. He took a QB who was there, not someone we coveted.

    SAR I

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post
    The reason he is under scrutiny is because:

    1. He wasn't wanted as a GM by any other team.

    2. He was our last choice.

    3. He was never a player-personnel guy.

    4. He let several good free agents walk.

    5. He didn't get good value for Revis.

    6. His draft got us no offensive playmakers.

    7. He took a QB who was there, not someone we coveted.

    SAR I
    Troll schtick dump

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    He's only under scrutiny from fans who want instant gratification and/or don't understand the ramifications of doing business in the NFL under a salary cap.

    I'll give you the first two:

    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post
    The reason he is under scrutiny is because:

    1. He wasn't wanted as a GM by any other team.

    2. He was our last choice.

    3. He was never a player-personnel guy.

    False

    4. He let several good free agents walk.

    Which ones? Landry? Keller? Would you have tied up over $10 million/year in cap space for those two players? Who else was a "good" free agent?

    5. He didn't get good value for Revis.

    What is "good" value for a player that only one team is interested in, who would also be available without compensation at the end of the upcoming season?

    6. His draft got us no offensive playmakers.

    A QB is not an offensive playmaker? What does the QB do on defense then?

    7. He took a QB who was there, not someone we coveted.

    How could you possibly know this? The Jets telling him "you're the pick if you're there in the 2nd round" is not coveting? Maybe they didn't want him at #9 or #13, but that doesn't mean they didn't want him.

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    Some will turn this year when the team wins 6 or fewer games again.

    Others will wait until 2014 and see what happens then. If we aren't in playoff contention or in the playoffs, then pretty much everyone else will turn.

    People nowadays need immediate satisfaction.

    I find it hilarious all the praise being heaped onto Idzik for saying nothing and picking up some veteran FA's and his not sexy, but solid draft picks. Reminds me of the early years of Mike Tannenbaum. We all know how that one worked out.

    I prefer to wait and see and I'm giving him through at least 2014.

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    kind and sincere request to all of the good Jet fan posters at JI

    please, please, please do not quote the daily shtick in responding to it.


    Those of us (probably close to two dozen) who have wisely retired it to the ignore list need not have to see it even indirectly

    Thank you for your consideration in this matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post
    The reason he is under scrutiny is because:

    1. He wasn't wanted as a GM by any other team.

    2. He was our last choice.

    3. He was never a player-personnel guy.

    4. He let several good free agents walk.

    5. He didn't get good value for Revis.

    6. His draft got us no offensive playmakers.

    7. He took a QB who was there, not someone we coveted.

    SAR I
    how the hell do u know who the jets did or did not covet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post
    The reason he is under scrutiny is because:

    1. He wasn't wanted as a GM by any other team.

    2. He was our last choice.

    3. He was never a player-personnel guy.

    4. He let several good free agents walk.

    5. He didn't get good value for Revis.

    6. His draft got us no offensive playmakers.

    7. He took a QB who was there, not someone we coveted.

    SAR I
    He spent 11 years with the Buccaneers, first as a Pro Personnel Assistant and then was elevated to Director of Football Administration in 1996 and Assistant General Manager in 2001.

    http://www.seahawks.com/team/staff/J...0-c4b074b07c45

    What is a Pro Personnel Assistant in the NFL?

    Answer:
    A Pro Personnel Assistant performs duties related to scouting and assesment of players throughout the NFL. Duties generally consist of evaluating personnel (free agents, opposing teams, and his own roster), advanced scouting (scouting of upcoming opponents), and data maintenance. The assistant usually works closely with the Director of Pro Personnel, coaching staff, and General Manager to produce reports related to the assesment of individuals and teams for scouting and game planning purposes.

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_...ant_in_the_NFL

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    Honestly, anyone who casts a final judgment on a GM after half a season is an idiot.

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    I hope soon! He's full of ****. The Revis trade proved just that.
    In one of the recent press conferences he kept saying that he is straight forward and wont lie to anyone on the roster.
    And then after weeks of saying that he's not trying to trade Revis he trades him. And then Revis comes out and says he got lied to by the Jets which i most certain believe!

    Im really sick of just looking at Idziks face already.

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    We've got a whole cycle of blame to go through first ...

    The circle usually goes from the players (they suck!) to the co-ordinators (they can't scheme / make the right calls to use the players we drafted!) to the head coach (he hired those stupid co-ordinators) to the GM (he hired the coach / picked the players). Then back to the players (who suck because the old GM picked them, and he sucked, so he got fired).

    We're a bit unique in that we got rid of the co-ordinators and the GM, but kept the HC. He'll be the main scapegoat, and once he's gone we'll be back to blaming the players (after all, popular opinion is that Rex picked them all on his own anyway, and they won;t fit the new guy's scheme). After a year or two when the players are all shiny and new, the co-ordinators will start getting hit, then whoever the HC is, and probably the GM at the same time. On that basis I give Idzik about 5 years.

    Unless we actually win ... imagine that! Then it might not be ANYONE'S fault. Can JI handle that prospect??? No-one to blame!?!?!!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post
    The reason he is under scrutiny is because:

    1. He agreed to keep Rex.

    2. He agreed to keep Rex.

    3. He agreed to keep Rex.

    4. He agreed to keep Rex.

    5. He agreed to keep Rex.

    6. He agreed to keep Rex.

    7. He agreed to keep Rex.

    SAR I
    Fixed.

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    Building up a team that was crippled by the cap and hurting for talented players and depth is not a one year process. Ultimately he'll be judged by how this draft calss develops and how the team goes about filling the holes that still exist next year and how compettitive the team is in 2014 and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snell41 View Post
    Honestly, anyone who casts a final judgment on a GM after half a season is an idiot.
    Or an agitator.

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