Shame on any of you idiots taking the bile his former agents are putting out there as truth. They're trying to save face! You'd think some of you idiots would've learned how slimy agents can be with Schwartz and Feinsod feeding Manish and Florio during the Revis saga.
GTFO with Vince Young II and all of that.
Reports surfaced Tuesday that Smith fired agents Jeff Nalley and Eric Burkhardt of Select Sports Group. While Smith has publicly denied that it had anything to do with his falling out of the draft's first round last week, there are indications to the contrary.
On April 23, Smith, his agents, some family members and several friends gathered for dinner in New York in advance of the draft, a gathering confirmed by a family member. At one point, everyone around the table stood to give a toast to celebrate the evening.
Smith went last, thanking everyone and declaring that entire group – his agents included – were a "family" that would stay together his entire career, if not the rest of his life, the sources said. Smith, who at one point was expecting to be the No. 1 overall pick and at least a top 10 selection, has big plans for his career. Smith, according to the sources, hopes to emulate players such as Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, putting himself cut above the rest of the quarterback fray.
The problem is that NFL types see a guy who, right now, doesn't understand how to get there.
"His biggest problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know," said a league executive, who spent extensive time assessing Smith before the draft. "I'm not sure he knows how to take instruction because he pretty much wouldn't listen or talk to our coaches … he's talented. He can sling it, he can fit it into tight spots, he can do a lot of things and I think he wants to be good. But you can't tell him anything right now. He's tuned out because he thinks he's got it all down."
When Smith was asked on a radio show Tuesday about firing his agents, he claimed the decision wasn't based on when he was drafted. When pressed, however, he didn't give a reason.
"I don't want to shed too much light on it," Smith told SiriusXM NFL Radio. "The thing that I can tell you is that it's not because of the whole draft experience. It's not because of one particular incident.
There's a number of things. And that story, you know, that battle will be fought on a different day. As of right now I don't feel too comfortable talking about all the details of it."
Smith did not respond to Yahoo! Sports' attempt to get a comment on the situation.
As for Select Sports, the firm issued a statement defending its work and wishing Smith well.
"We worked tirelessly for Geno Smith and all of our draft prospects," the firm said in its statement.
"The NFL draft is unpredictable, and we prepared Geno and all of our draft prospects, as we do every year, about what can happen during the draft.
"Not only did we tell him that what transpired on the first day of the draft was possible, the question of whether Geno would be a first- or second-round pick was arguably the most talked about subject in the three months leading up to the draft. We wish Geno the best."
One possible factor in Smith dropping to the second round is a concern about leadership.
"He doesn't have much presence, not much of a leader," said another league executive, who spent a great deal of time studying Smith before the draft. "I don't think he's a bad person, but that's not enough to be a quarterback in this league."
Two sources indicated that when Smith went on some visits to teams, rather than interact with coaches and front-office people, he would spend much of his time on his cell phone. Instead of being engaged with team officials, he would be texting friends or reading Twitter or a number of other distracting activities.
"All these other players who were in there were talking to the coaches, trying to get to know people and he was over there by himself," one of the sources said. "That's not what you want out of your quarterback."
Both sources indicated that Florida State's E.J. Manuel, who was selected ahead of Smith at No. 16 overall by Buffalo, was far more impressive in terms of his personality and maturity.
"Manuel gets it, he gets the whole big picture of what it takes to lead a team," one of the league executives said.
Smith opened himself up to criticism when he told ESPN last Thursday that he wasn't sticking around for Friday's second round after getting bypassed in the first. Smith then changed his mind, saying Friday that he returned after his "supporters" convinced him to stay.
By Sunday, Smith was being convinced by other friends that it was the fault of his agents that he slipped so much in the draft, according to one of the sources.
"Right now, he's blaming everybody but himself and he has some buddies around him who are telling him that same thing," the source said.
Two of the sources said how Smith reacts to things could be a major factor for him as he tries to take over for Mark Sanchez in New York. The Jets clearly want to move on after four years with Sanchez, including a league-leading 52 turnovers over the past two seasons.
I bet McElroy wins this
A different take on whole Smith situation. I don't want to make it a race issue but I thought what Dilfer said was a good sign about smith.
Not a student of the game. Not committed or focused. Marginal work ethic.
When a Pro Football Weekly scouting report on West Virginia quarterback Geno Smith surfaced recently, containing damning proclamations by analyst Nolan Nawrocki about the habits of the top-rated passer in the NFL draft, it made me shake my head.
Here we go again.
Two years ago, Cam Newton was slammed by Nawrocki for having a "fake smile" and setting a bad example while carrying a sense of entitlement.
Last year, in a Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel report, Robert Griffin III was knocked by unnamed scouts for how he "deals with people."
MOCK DRAFT: Geno Smith lands with Eagles
MANUEL RISING: Florida State QB may end up in first round
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This is the same RGIII who has been nothing less than a class act while positioned, like Newton, as one of the NFL's marquee attractions for the future.
Now another African-American quarterback has some vicious stereotypes circulating about him that people who have gotten to know Smith insist couldn't be farther from the truth.
Never mind the 42 touchdown passes (against six interceptions) last season, behind a shaky offensive line. Forget that the kid, who completed 71.2% of his passes in 2012, is the type to be found studying film hours after throwing for six TDs, or that his coaches rave about his drive.
Geno Smith, too, has to pay a black tax.
Even in 2013, it's apparent that conditions remain in this society where analysis and opinions are seemingly clouded by racial bias. It's easy to slap a stereotypical label on a minority — from quarterbacks to the blue-collar men on the street — without the benefit of doubt.
Hopefully, as a group, NFL decision-makers are beyond this. Regardless, it's a shame that such garbage is put out there in the first place.
"It's like people make this stuff up," says Bucky Brooks, an analyst for NFL Network and NFL.com. "They are still perpetuating myths, using code words."
Warren Moon can relate. In 2006, Moon was the first African-American quarterback inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. When he came out of Washington as the Rose Bowl MVP in 1978, NFL people wanted him to switch positions. Instead, undrafted by the NFL, he tore up the Canadian Football League for six years with the Edmonton Eskimos before getting his NFL shot.
The knocks on Smith don't sit well with Moon.
"It sounds the same as two years ago," Moon told USA TODAY Sports. "It just shows that there are a lot of people in society who have the biases and stereotypes. And most of it is about your integrity or leadership or work ethic — all of these intangible things."
Smith is nobody's Andrew Luck or RGIII, but he is an undoubtedly pivotal piece of the draft puzzle. There's a wide range of speculation about where he will land. Maybe the Oakland Raiders, despite having Matt Flynn, still take Smith at No. 3 overall?
If not, the Philadelphia Eagles, Cleveland Browns, Buffalo Bills and even the New York Jets could be in play for Smith — or Florida State's EJ Manuel or Syracuse's Ryan Nassib at a lower cost on the draft board.
As for Smith, let Trent Dilfer weigh in. The former Super Bowl champ runs the Elite 11 passing camp, matching top college quarterbacks with hot-shot high school prospects. Of the six college quarterbacks who worked the camp last summer in Redondo Beach, Calif., Smith was the only one who arrived with full knowledge of the 89-page playbook Dilfer put together and sent to participants three weeks before camp opened.
"Geno showed up, and on Day 1, he could have taught it," Dilfer told USA TODAY Sports. "He didn't just know it, he owned it.
"The Pro Football Weekly report should be discarded," Dilfer added. "It's almost laughable, the stuff he put in there."
Since the report surfaced April 1, Smith has had so many credible voices eagerly refute the labels spewed out as knocks. That says something, too.
Smith has some believers. Soon, he will also have the opportunity to demonstrate whether he possesses the commitment and skill to hack it on the next level.
Another viewpoint on Geno firing his agents:
Why Did Geno Smith Really Fire His Agents?
Geno Smith fell to the second round of the NFL draft, 39th overall. It wasn't unfathomable, but it was toward the most pessimistic end of the most pessimistic projections. Then, weird stuff happened: Smith fired his agents. His agents went to the media, anonymously claiming that Smith was disappointed he didn't go first overall. Now, it gets even weirder: the ex-agents have issued a statement putting further blame on Smith, and did so "in response to" the reports based on their own leaks.
It started with the Daily News, though Smith's ex-agents at the Select Sports Group approached a number of reporters with the story that Smith fired them because he "thought he would be and should be" the No. 1 pick. Smith denied that during a radio interview, saying "it’s not because of one particular incident, there are a number of things," and indicated his willingness to let the issue go.
Then, last night, Smith's ex-agents Jeff Nalley and Erik Burkhardt issued a statement to Pro Football Talk, doubling down on the "Smith was disappointed by his draft position" narrative. This is strange for a number of reasons: players change representation all the time, and both sides usually keep it quiet (Browns receiver Josh Gordon fired Select Sports three weeks ago, and no statement was released by either side); Nalley and Burkhardt were giving a public comment in response to their own private comments, not to Smith; Florio oddly headlined the story "Geno Smith’s former agents wish him the best."
“We worked tirelessly for Geno Smith and all of our draft prospects. The NFL Draft is unpredictable, and we prepared Geno and all of our draft prospects, as we do every year, about what can happen during the draft. Not only did we tell him that what transpired on the first day of the draft was possible, the question of whether Geno would be a first- or second-round pick was arguably the most talked about subject in the three months leading up to the draft. We wish Geno the best.”
We spoke to a person close to Geno Smith, because while a player switching agencies isn't unique, it's often done for interesting reasons. Our source says that while Select Sports "absolutely told Geno he'd go No. 1," that was at the beginning of their partnership, and it's par for the course for agents to promise their clients the world. Smith is less bothered by that promise, the person says, than by Nalley and Burkhardt attempting to portray it as the sole reason for his move.
Smith, we're told, was more upset that Select Sports handled him like a potential high pick, failing to do the sorts of things that could have improved his draft position. Our source says Smith wanted to take part in the Senior Bowl, a showcase for talent looking to move up, but his agents convinced him to skip it. When Pro Football Weekly issued a scathing scouting report, calling Smith "not committed or focused" and deriding his "marginal work ethic," Smith was disappointed that his agents did nothing to combat the negative press it created, our source says.
Smith also felt betrayed, perhaps unfairly, when Jeff Nalley had two of his quarterback clients sign with teams that might have been landing spots for Smith—Chase Daniel in Kansas City and Kevin Kolb in Buffalo. (This argument doesn't hold much water after the Bills traded down to take E.J. Manuel.)
Our source—and, remember, this is someone from Smith's camp talking—claims Smith came to terms with his potential draft plunge weeks before the draft, and takes the blame for not being as polished a prospect as he could have been, both on and off the field. We openly speculated on some of the pre-draft preparation an agent gives a player, but the person close to Smith says he didn't make his call based on that, or on not going No. 1. "He just felt like he needed a change, and that's the end of the story," the person says. Which means it's clearly just the beginning.
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For over a month now no one has mentioned him as likely to go in the top 10. They were a couple of guys saying a team might get desperate and they may have him ranked a lot higher than the consensus. Almost to a man everyone thought that he would be the first qb taken, and most likely in the bottom of the first with a sucky team trading up for him.
He was positive he was going in the first round, based on the tweet he sent out challenging the 'experts'
<p>Just want to thank all those so called "experts" who say I can't be an NFL QB. Thursday will be a special day but the work has only begun</p>— Eugene Geno Smith (@GenoSmith_12) <a href="https://twitter.com/GenoSmith_12/status/326777098754748416">April 23, 2013</a>
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after reading all of these articles I agree completely with the Deadspin one here that has been posted multiple times.
There is so much media bias for the Jets it makes me sick and I think Geno's agents are very aware of this and thought they could do some recovery on their end by leaking information to ManishTMZ and PFT.
For those of you who read the Manish garbage and take it for face value do yourself a favor and just believe the exact opposite of whatever he says for truth. The guy is a proven weasel whose job is to continue whatever smear campaign pops up for the week.
So, OK half the world thinks the kid is lazy, self centered, etc. etc. and the other half thinks he has the class and grace of RGIII and Russell Wilson......
Shocking in a country where half like the current and president and the other half don't
Bottom line.... Jets have a relatively small investment in him with the 2nd round pick. If he works out... great, if he doesn't, little lost. Sound businesses take sound risks for potential rewards.... This Jets GM did just that, unlike his predessor who left us with a train wreck at QB
Waddya say we let him get to training camp, fellas then make a call?
And GEEZ Hitman, that sig of yours is gonna get me fired!!!
Pretty tough when Ego, meets reality....
Happens alot in the NFL draft...
Geno wants to place blame....It always starts with a mirror.
A lot of contrary things being said about the kid...
I'd sooner trust his college coach Dana Holgorsen who said. “Geno’s a tremendous leader for us. Not only is he a great quarterback, but he’s probably the best leader that we had on our entire team.”
"From a work ethic standpoint I’ve never been around a guy that’s studied the game as much as he does,” said Holgorsen. “He’s excited about coming to work every day and he’s excited about the preparation that he had to do. And then when you hit the field from a practice perspective, work ethic was never in question. The guy’s a tremendous football player, tremendous leader and he’s going to be a great pro.”
I also think it speaks volumes what Dilfer said above how he owned the 89 page play book that he gave him 3 weeks before the Elite 11 camp.
Maybe he does need to mature a bit off the field, but the same things can be said of Sanchez (still)... And if he's a bit arrogant so what, so is Brady, Manning, Favre, Marino and plenty of other HOF qb's...
I think it's an excellent question.