Gregg Rosenthal, this guy gets it:
Quinton Coples, Dion Jordan represent new trends
Heading into his second season, New York Jets defender Quinton Coples is moving to outside linebacker. The Jets need pass rushers and believe Coples can be more effective standing up. This has attracted a lot of media attention.
In Miami, there's already a question about where No. 3 overall pick Dion Jordan will play. General manager Jeff Ireland admits that Jordan could wind up as a linebacker in the team's base package.
New England's top pick this season, second-rounder Jamie Collins, can play both defensive end and outside linebacker. His arrival has folks in Boston wondering if the Patriots will use more 3-4 looks this season.
All the attention on projected position with these young pass rushers misses the point. All three players aren't going to just play one position or line up in one scheme. Their ability to play a variety of roles is precisely why they were drafted so high in the first place.
The lines between a 4-3 defense and 3-4 defense have eroded for years, and now have been all but erased. The terms are almost meaningless by now because the majority of NFL defenses are wildly multiple, transforming formations from snap-to-snap, week-to-week, season-to-season.
The changing schemes are starting to render our old position labels out of date. Coples isn't an outside linebacker, defensive end or defensive tackle. He's all three depending on the down.
Jordan and Collins aren't just linebackers or defensive linemen. They will be everywhere. They don't fit in a box.
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Let me give you example You face a Darren McFadden and FB Marcel Reece backfield. Both are capable of moving outside before the snap. They empty the backfield and someone has to pick them up. ( big mismatch) Tell me the Lb or safety that moving outside to pick them up.
The Jets Had 30 sacks last year and suddenly with Barnes and Richardson your pass rush is going to be unstoppable. If the Jets had those type of guys than why aren't they playing the 4-3. I will wait till the season plays out and than look at the numbers. Lets see just how far I was off on this one.
Last edited by Raider9175; 05-03-2013 at 03:03 PM.
It is all speculation right now but you can't overlook the Talent and youth this defensive line possesses. Wilkerson played like a Pro Bowl Player in his second year and Coples almost showed more pass rush prowess in limited playing time. Barnes is a proven rush backer in this league and Richardson while being a rookie was mainly considered one of the top interior rushers. We'll see what happens but all the three big guys - Coples, Wilk and Richardson - are what you would consider as the prototype DT/DE to defend against the new quick, high powered offenses. They are all big and stout against the run but are highly athletic which makes them extremely dangerous rushing the QB.
Rex has mentioned Pace's coverage abilities on a number of occasions.
Watching Coples last year getting double-teamed on most every play sets up well for 2013. Opposing teams knew he was the MAN that they feared most. Why he was the OLB last year is an indictment on Rex. He should have a monster year because the interior defensive line will be awesome. That will lead to more sacks and more angles that Jet rushers will be coming from.
Raider doesn't understand that the Jets play 3 Safety's or 3-4 Corners much of the time. In 3-3-5 or 2-5-4 sets.
Antonio Allen will be our Eric Smith, and would be a huge upgrade.
1. RB/FB who are receivers catch 90% of their passes in a screen/short yardage type situation and they are never "covered" 1 on 1 - defending the screen is a team effort. Unless you are talking about mcfadden running a wheel route (see bart scott getting smoked on a wheel by New England last year) defending the screen is about team defense.
2. If you split a RB out wide they can easily be picked up by a safety as we have 2 CBs that will play more man coverage then most teams. Rex also plays 5 DBs more then any other coach, so we will drop a DB down in your scenario more then having harris come out on them.
3. Barnes and Richardson give us a lot of options defensively, thats how the rush will improve - and richardson in particular is very quick for an interior lineman and should help us immensely defending screen passes.
Coples hype is big now. Why not give the guy another season or two before proclaiming him a "Beast".