State department scrubbed the talking points:
ABC is reporting there were 12 revisions of the CIA talking points, that the State Department was directly involved in scrubbing them.
Some quotes from the video on that site:
"I have obtained 12 different versions of those talking points that show they were dramatically edited by the administration."
"What was taken out? All references to al-Qaeda, and all references to CIA warnings, before the attack, about the terror threat in Benghazi"
"I have had e-mails read to me that show that many of these changes were directed by Hillary Clinton's spokesperson at the State Department, Victoria Nuland. In one e-mail, she said that information about the CIA warnings 'could be abused by members [of Congress] to beat up the State Department for not paying attention to warnings, so why would we want to feed that . . .' After that e-mail, all of those references were deleted."
And, from the article, here's what the White House Spokesman, Jay Carney, said about it in the fall:
“Those talking points originated from the intelligence community. They reflect the IC’s best assessments of what they thought had happened,” Carney told reporters at the White House press briefing on November 28, 2012. “The White House and the State Department have made clear that the single adjustment that was made to those talking points by either of those two institutions were changing the word ‘consulate’ to ‘diplomatic facility’ because ‘consulate’ was inaccurate.”
Again, I 'm not concerned with the politics or the noise of this. I tune it all out as best I can. I don't let my feelings for MSNBC or FoxNews prevent me from being curious about serious topics simply because one or the other is running with the story. My primary concern is getting answers from my government. I don't care one iota about the political implications. Seems most people can't or won't get past that.
Were there lapses in judgment? I'm sure. How do you think soldiers die in combat in Afghanistan all the time? When the sh!t hits the fan bad stuff happens. Leaders make bad judgments but we don't spend millions on hearings every time that happens.
Again, i am just wondering what people want to come from this. The truth? sure that's great. Where is the truth behind what happened to every american soldier that died in Iraq/Afghanistan? I am sure some were killed due to some level of incompetence by the Bush/Obama administrations.
Seems like a colossal waste of money that will amount to nothing.
You keep bringing up past administrations. They have nothing to do with the current topic. They are no longer in a position to do damage. I'm purely interested in my current government. The one that I currently pay taxes to. The one that is supposed to protect me. The one that represents us all. Why is this so hard to understand? If you hate politics so much, why is it so in the forefront of your mind? Things like this go waaaay beyond politics. This particular topic goes much deeper.
But if you insist, if anything, now that we know major transgressions have occurred, shouldn't your political focus of "why is the GOP talking about this" shift to "why are Democrats refusing to"?
Did Stevens make a poor decision? Apparently. Does that in any way negate or otherwise impact the failures of prevention, reaction, and candor that are at issue? No, not at all.
So what place does it have in this discussion? It's about as useful as the "if we weren't in Libya . . ." crap that Winston brought up. True or false, it's a completely separate issue.
Unfortunately, I think the days where we expect better of the Obama administration are long gone.
But in contrast to what others are saying, in order for this to be reflected in your vote, you've got to believe pretty emphatically that the alternative is better with regards to telling the truth when it hurts. And I don't think that existed at the time. If the R's can legitimately find that in a candidate that can survive their own primary, I do think they will significantly improve their chances in 2016, especially against Hillary.
A rape victim is not an American official who has a security detail and is briefed on a daily basis of threats within the region.